HardOCP exposed, the biggest joke of a hardware site ever

I don't know if any of you saw it, but HardOCP  seems to have let the cat out of the bag.

 Talk about unprofessional, they call the 2900 a FLOP right on there front page and in the summary say it's ATI's Geforce 5, has bad image quality, gets owned by the GTS320 and they said it's a hopeless waste of money.

 Quite a contrast to most other sites that say it has fantastic image quality, cremes the GTS, praise the Multimedia features and bundled HL2 package and mention the Drivers have a long way to go and will likely result in much better results in the coming weeks.

My problem isn't so much with what they said and more with how they said it and how they said it destroys their credibility in my eyes forever.

You can't trust any site that resorts to the childish bashing HardOCP does because most people know acting like the people in System Wars destroys all your credibility instantly, if the people at HardOCP were smart they would know this.

So either the people at HardOCP are complete idiots in which case you can't trust them or they know they have little credability anyways in which you also can't trust them.

I wonder if they'll have the guts to fess up and to a degree admit their premature remarks once the new drivers ship that promise significant gains.

No, you're the biggest joke because you didn't read the whole review. They clearly state that it was probably a driver issue and that they were willing to re-test it once the new ones are released. Oops! Joke's on you lol. DeeJayInphinity

Why are they using an old sample card though?
Why did they orginally use a Nvidia slide from a recent presentation to compare power consumption?
Why is Kyle such a freaking ***?

HardOCP has lost all credability in the past year or so. 

I don't know if any of you saw it, but HardOCP seems to have let the cat out of the bag.

Talk about unprofessional, they call the 2900 a FLOP right on there front page and in the summary say it's ATI's Geforce 5, has bad image quality, gets owned by the GTS320 and they said it's a hopeless waste of money.

Quite a contrast to most other sites that say it has fantastic image quality, cremes the GTS, praise the Multimedia features and bundled HL2 package and mention the Drivers have a long way to go and will likely result in much better results in the coming weeks.

 

My problem isn't so much with what they said and more with how they said it and how they said it destroys their credibility in my eyes forever.

You can't trust any site that resorts to the childish bashing HardOCP does because most people know acting like the people in System Wars destroys all your credibility instantly, if the people at HardOCP were smart they would know this.

So either the people at HardOCP are complete idiots in which case you can't trust them or they know they have little credability anyways in which you also can't trust them.

I wonder if they'll have the guts to fess up and to a degree admit their premature remarks once the new drivers ship that promise significant gains.

SirWrinkles

There are alot of other site that say its a flop as well, don't try to pin it down to one site to downplay the obvious dismay many reviewers are having with it. That said, they mostly said that they'd give it at least a second look when drivers are more mature, and I see that as the underlying problem with the card, nothing to do with "marchitecture flaws", "stream processor inefficiencies" of whatever hooblas doubters are spewing.... that said, I have always disliked HardOCP's test methodology of "getting the best gameplay experience benches", and they should just adopt the standard, stock with stock, same setting benches for fair and accurate representations of the products they are reviewing, but that's beside the point.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]No, you're the biggest joke because you didn't read the whole review. They clearly state that it was probably a driver issue and that they were willing to re-test it once the new ones are released. Oops! Joke's on you lol. LordEC911

Why are they using an old sample card though?
Why did they orginally use a Nvidia slide from a recent presentation to compare power consumption?
Why is Kyle such a freaking ***?

HardOCP has lost all credability in the past year or so.

Well, we're not discussing that atm. :P

We're just talking about their recent review of the 2900xt

Here's a little quote regarding the image quality that op said that HardOCP thought was garbage:

"When we compare the filtering quality using a synthetic testing program we find the G80 is technically performing better filtering especially near 45 degree angles as you approach 16X AF. However, so far in our game testing we have not seen this translate into anything noticeable in games."

They only noticed the minor differences once they zoomed into the pictures and when they used the testing program.

Anyway, I preffer Anandtech over HardOCP. I never really liked HardOCP but to spread lies about their review is just not necessary. Still, the other sites were also recording a higher power consumption by the 2900xt, no?

For every site that is dissapointed in the X2900XT their are more I think that have a positivie outlook on it.

 Such as Tom's Hardware, GURU3D and ExtremeTech.

The problem isn't as much with their points as it is with how they said it, honestly goto system wars and look at a Sony or 360 fan bashing one of the other consoles, they do it in the same way these loosers did.

For every site that is dissapointed in the X2900XT their are more I think that have a positivie outlook on it.

Such as Tom's Hardware, GURU3D and ExtremeTech.

The problem isn't as much with their points as it is with how they said it, honestly goto system wars and look at a Sony or 360 fan bashing one of the other consoles, they do it in the same way these loosers did.

SirWrinkles

Well sure, how they bashed it may be uncalled for, especially in the eyes of an AMD/ATI fan, no doubt about that, but the results speak for itself no? The positive outlooks are hoping for better drivers in a bid to stomp Nvidia's top dog, and I guess that's where the sentiment comes from, not being able to consistently quash the 8800 gtx/ultra like it should have. Waiting for 8.38 benched results.

For every site that is dissapointed in the X2900XT their are more I think that have a positivie outlook on it.

Such as Tom's Hardware, GURU3D and ExtremeTech.

The problem isn't as much with their points as it is with how they said it, honestly goto system wars and look at a Sony or 360 fan bashing one of the other consoles, they do it in the same way these loosers did.

SirWrinkles

Well, yes, they did say a few mean things about the video card but it's nothing to get whiney about.. unless you're an ATi fanboy?

Honestly, none of that bothered me at all.

The fact of the matter is, they are Nvidia bias.
It shows in almost all of their reviews.
They are definitely getting paid a good bit of money by Nvidia to stay in their pocket.
AMD even tried a peace offering with  the party they threw for Kyle and HardOCP and they still aren't fair in their reviews...

The fact of the matter is, they are Nvidia bias.
It shows in almost all of their reviews.
They are definitely getting paid a good bit of money by Nvidia to stay in their pocket.
AMD even tried a peace offering with the party they threw for Kyle and HardOCP and they still aren't fair in their reviews...

LordEC911

Fair enough. Just don't take their review to heart with their kind of bias, but admittingly I can only hope AMD will fix their drivers soon and not let it drag out like Nvidia did (Vista WHQL driver debacle anyone?) 

I'm not sure they're biased in either direction, they just tend to make outlandish statements to get more readers so they can make more advertising revenue...DGFreak

 I would hope that would hurt them more then help :?

I really don't see how tom's hardware is biased at all towards ATI if anything I'd say it's the other way around!

 I remember when the X1800XT first came out, Tom's Hardware benchmarked it when everyone knew the drivers were badly busted yet they used the results those drivers generated for MONTHS after many new drivers had come out leading site visitors to think the X1000 series was much slower then it is.

- The 2900 XT isn't supposed to take on the GTX/Ultra. That's the XTX's job.
- The 2900 XT costs $400 and performs better than the 8800 GTS.
- The 2900 XT's drivers are only expected to get better.

I don't seee how the card is a flop.