Has anyone used a VGA converter, scaler to play their older systems on an HDTV?

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#1 ipwnzthaish
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(Saturn, N64, Dreamcast, etc) With something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350248825829

If so, what have beenyour results? Is the upgrade in picture quality over standard composite video significant enough to justify buying one of these?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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It doesnt actually turn anything HD. N64 game resolutions average between 320x240 or 640x480, but there has been some smaller. Ur TV upscales the signal to begin with. Basically upscaling stretched the image to the maximum resolution. Lets sat for example u have a 720x480 signal. ur HDTV will upscale it to 1080p. From that point on ur game is in 1080p. now the reason it looks bad is because it has been stretched without anyfiltering done. That converter probably has a worse upscaler than ur TV. If u want filtered/proccessed video feeds to make it look clearer u need to buy a reciever with a high quality proccessor to actually strtch the video and fill in extra pixels to make it true 1080p.

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It's only going to look real nice if your running the game off an ********* on your computer. Which is illegal.

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It's only going to look real nice if your running the game off an ********* on your computer. Which is illegal.

zaku101
They are not illegal, where has this misconception come from? All they do is emulate the hardware, where the rest of the files come from aka the game is the illegal part. You must rip them yourself for it to be legal.
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[QUOTE="zaku101"]

It's only going to look real nice if your running the game off an ********* on your computer. Which is illegal.

JigglyWiggly_
They are not illegal, where has this misconception come from? All they do is emulate the hardware, where the rest of the files come from aka the game is the illegal part. You must rip them yourself for it to be legal.

+1 It is very ignorant to say it is illegal. To run a game off of an emulator such as a ps1 game the following must be true. You must have a copy of the game you are emulating. You must have a copy of the system your emulating (that is the only way for it to be legal to have a copy of the bios needed to run the emulator, that is not saying you yourself have to get them from your ps1). Now yes you could download ff7 roms off the internet. It isn't actually illegal unless you don't own FF7. This is why piraters are hard to catch in the gaming industry, there are too many chances that what they are doing is legal. PC isos, etc... are a lot different, however that is not the subject at hand. _____ also emulators do not change how the game looks other then adjusting to your resolution, no graphical advantages in game what so ever.
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It doesnt actually turn anything HD. N64 game resolutions average between 320x240 or 640x480, but there has been some smaller. Ur TV upscales the signal to begin with. Basically upscaling stretched the image to the maximum resolution. Lets sat for example u have a 720x480 signal. ur HDTV will upscale it to 1080p. From that point on ur game is in 1080p. now the reason it looks bad is because it has been stretched without anyfiltering done. That converter probably has a worse upscaler than ur TV. If u want filtered/proccessed video feeds to make it look clearer u need to buy a reciever with a high quality proccessor to actually strtch the video and fill in extra pixels to make it true 1080p.

painguy1

Thanks for the reply. When you say receiver are talking of an audio receiver with video inputs and the like?

Also, the reason the product was appealing to me is because it has an S-video input, something my HDTV doesn't have. Right now, I'm running my older consoles through an RF modulator. Looks okay, but I would venture to guess it would look much better running through the s-video input on that device.

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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

It doesnt actually turn anything HD. N64 game resolutions average between 320x240 or 640x480, but there has been some smaller. Ur TV upscales the signal to begin with. Basically upscaling stretched the image to the maximum resolution. Lets sat for example u have a 720x480 signal. ur HDTV will upscale it to 1080p. From that point on ur game is in 1080p. now the reason it looks bad is because it has been stretched without anyfiltering done. That converter probably has a worse upscaler than ur TV. If u want filtered/proccessed video feeds to make it look clearer u need to buy a reciever with a high quality proccessor to actually strtch the video and fill in extra pixels to make it true 1080p.

ipwnzthaish

Thanks for the reply. When you say receiver are talking of an audio receiver with video inputs and the like?

Also, the reason the product was appealing to me is because it has an S-video input, something my HDTV doesn't have. Right now, I'm running my older consoles through an RF modulator. Looks okay, but I would venture to guess it would look much better running through the s-video input on that device.

yes i mean an audio/video receiver. I believe that most recievers have S-videos now a days. The upscaling proccesor vary's though (aswell as the price :P)