Has Blizzards rep been hurt by the shaky release of D3?

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#1 Jermone123
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Has the almighty Blizzard taken a hit? The company that is so well known for releasing polished games. Lets face it, very few companies are held in such a high regard as Blizzard, however the Diablo 3 release has been anything but smooth... AH is still down, delayed RMAH, no commodity trading, servers down, HACKS, imbalance of classes, imbalance of gear drops, dependancy of AH to get decent gear, bosses not being hard enough and so on... IMO Blizzard really did kinda fail on the gear drops. The gear that drops for the level the character is playing is imbalanced. How could Blizzard mess up such an important factor as gear in Diablo 3 is beyond me.

Don't get me wrong... I enjoy the game. Its still relatively a good game. But up to Blizzards standard? No... and I think the almighty Blizzard has taken a big black eye with this release. How long has this game been in developement? There is no excuse for this game not to be DONE. What happened to the "Its done when its done" Blizzard? Ouch, a black eye indeed. I still love Blizzard, but I am sorry I can not keep my opinion of them in such high regard after this release...

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#2 JohnF111
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Expect fans to come and flail their rage-hammer at you. I somewhat agree, their stupid DRM was a waste of effort and put them in a bad position. Their own fault and I hope it's a reminder that putting DRM on what's essentially a single player game is just idiotic.
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#3 xWoW_Rougex
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I gotta say I don't know understand this at all. Everyone always go on about how Blizzard is always so polished but lemme take a look at their releases throughout the later years years:
Starcraft 2 - It's a strategy game with singleplayer available. It performed well yeah, like pretty much every other game. Unlike WoW and D3, very reliant on online, Starcraft is just a "normal game" and they shouldn't really receive too much credit for releasing this without any problem. You don't see people giving cred to Civilization 5 or whatever. A kind of game that should be released with no problem, so it don't count!

WoW expansions - It feels as if people compare the expansions with other, real first time releases of mmorpgs. You can't say, hey WoW-expansion performed such great but Age of Conan, not so much. Because well, it's an expansion. You already got everything up and running, with a stable game and it's not as harsh as releasing the game for the first time.

WoW - I won't say I remember much of the release but I think I feel pretty confident when I say that WoW lacked a lot of stuff (battlegrounds for example) during its release and I don't remember this release being more any more stable than other mmorpg releases (AoC, War, Aion, Rift etc). A pretty standard release yeah?

The rest - normal games. Before everyone started worshipping Blizzard like gods and had hundreds of millions of fans. Don't count

So from what I can see, they performed a decent job with one game and then handled some expansions fairly well. That's not very special is it? Why are they considering some kind of gods? Why are everyone always stating how Blizzard is the best at handling releases when it pretty much only has handled one "real" tough job to handle, WoW? And now with the grand online game Diablo 3, they finally got a second challenge to overcome and just because they did a fine job the first time, everyone thought they were unstoppable but yeah look how that turned out! People are always acting like Blizzard yearly releases major major games and they are all released in a stable 100% condition but hey, it's one game. One game. Not hundred per month like people seem to think.




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#4 Jermone123
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Check out the D3 forums on their site. No doubt this is a huge black eye for them. They messed up...

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#5 DanielDust
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Check out the D3 forums on their site. No doubt this is a huge black eye for them. They messed up...

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Not really and regarding the forums, you must be new to the Blizzard side of the internet, there are only trolls and haters on their forums (any forum they have), it's not a good representation of anything, just the several hundreds of complete morons from each of their games.
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#6 Jermone123
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There is a post going on that tells Blizzard to straight up... ummm how do I say this.... to fly a kite to put it nicely. Thing has been up for over an hour and still no delete, people are going off on Blizzard and this game being a fail. This is not good for Blizzards rep, people are pissed and its not just the trolls.

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#7 xWoW_Rougex
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I'm more interested in this whole hacking spree that's going on. There seem to be a lot of topics of people claiming they are getting hacked even though they're sure they haven't done anything wrong. It's easy for many to just dismiss these people are dumb**** but I can't believe that many of these that are getting hacked and claim they have good security are just lying. I mean, I see many trying to lecture others but just because you're not a victim don't mean everyone else are doing something wrong.

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#8 jwsoul
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Short answer yes i havent touched Diablo since the Servers were down on my Sunday off! TO top it off i couldnt access the game on realse while others could meaning my mates just bombed ahead without me.
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#9 Croag821
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Considering it's sold around 7 million already and I'm having a blast with it I don't think it hurts the companies reputation at all. I'll take an awesome game with a horrible launch week over a horrible game with an awesome launch week any day. Don't get me wrong I thought the launch problems were pathetic and inexcusable, but they fixed them and I really enjoy the game.
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#10 mirgamer
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If you've ever been to the WoW forums ever since it was launched, you would think that Blizzard is the most hated studio in the gaming world. Yet its still considered the most successful MMO to date.

The more popular you are, the more haters you get. It just comes with the territory.

Not to forget, WoW's launch was plagued with serious problems, as well. Many of them were the nasty game-breaking bugs. Blizzard wasn't actually untouched by problematic releases.

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If you've ever been to the WoW forums ever since it was launched, you would think that Blizzard is the most hated studio in the gaming world. Yet its still considered the most successful MMO to date.

The more popular you are, the more haters you get. It just comes with the territory.

Not to forget, WoW's launch was plagued with serious problems, as well. Many of them were the nasty game-breaking bugs. Blizzard wasn't actually untouched by problematic releases.

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I always comb those forums for posts like that, seriously the ragers that rage things about having the server down for a few extra hours sound like ****ing drug addicts.. Its sad.
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#12 kozzy1234
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First day was the only issues for me, I had worse launch experience with BF3 on PC, MW2 on console, Red ORchestra2 on PC and many other games.

The game is amazing and I have ove r90 hour slogged into it so far. The first day issues sucked but ive not ahd any since.

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#13 kozzy1234
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Check out the D3 forums on their site. No doubt this is a huge black eye for them. They messed up...

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thats BS. Look at the steam forums after a BIG RELEASE, same crap pops up.

Look at BF3's release, there is still tons of people **** every second on there forums. Same with Blizzards WOW forum, tons of brats on there.

Any new game is gonna have a ton of people complaining on the forums, it happens ALL THE TIME. Most of the people who are playing are having fun and not posting on forums, but all the people having issues and the trolls are on the forums.

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#14 KHAndAnime
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I'd say Blizzard's rep has definitely taken a bit of a hit. It comes across in the critic's reviews as well. Honestly, Blizzard's reputation has changed vastly with WoW, and I think Diablo 3 is a good indicator of what Blizzard has become. Diablo 3's launch is comparable to that of any MMORPG...which is pretty ****ing ugly, considering that people who just want to play singleplayer are encountering leagues of problems and issues that they would not have encountered otherwise.

In the end, a lot of people will remain unaffected and won't think differently of Blizzard. It won't be the same story for all the people having issues though. I've already had to deal with hours of headaches with Diablo 3, but my issues at the moment have subsided and I've been enjoying the game.

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#15 ionusX
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they got egg on their face and after the battle.net china's epic fail on their store.. blizzard has hurt temselves in more places than i think fans will admit. they have egg on their face. though it may wash off with soap.. the stink will be there a long time

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#16 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="Jermone123"]

Check out the D3 forums on their site. No doubt this is a huge black eye for them. They messed up...

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thats BS. Look at the steam forums after a BIG RELEASE, same crap pops up.

Look at BF3's release, there is still tons of people **** every second on there forums. Same with Blizzards WOW forum, tons of brats on there.

Any new game is gonna have a ton of people complaining on the forums, it happens ALL THE TIME. Most of the people who are playing are having fun and not posting on forums, but all the people having issues and the trolls are on the forums.

Battlefield 3's release was a little shaky as well...not really a great example. It's not really fair to say that every big release has these problems, because that's a straight up lie. There are lots of big releases that have very positive feedback from the fans at launch. Keep an eye out for Max Payne 3 in a few days, you'll really learn the difference between a solid and a shaky launch (Rockstar's forums won't go down with fans in anger, unlike Diablo 3's case)
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#17 RossRichard
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To the OP: Those same people whined incessantly about everything when Diablo 2 launched too.

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#18 Selkc
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i dont care about the release. that happened ages ago

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#19 shakmaster13
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I gotta say I don't know understand this at all. Everyone always go on about how Blizzard is always so polished but lemme take a look at their releases throughout the later years years:
Starcraft 2 - It's a strategy game with singleplayer available. It performed well yeah, like pretty much every other game. Unlike WoW and D3, very reliant on online, Starcraft is just a "normal game" and they shouldn't really receive too much credit for releasing this without any problem. You don't see people giving cred to Civilization 5 or whatever. A kind of game that should be released with no problem, so it don't count!

WoW expansions - It feels as if people compare the expansions with other, real first time releases of mmorpgs. You can't say, hey WoW-expansion performed such great but Age of Conan, not so much. Because well, it's an expansion. You already got everything up and running, with a stable game and it's not as harsh as releasing the game for the first time.

WoW - I won't say I remember much of the release but I think I feel pretty confident when I say that WoW lacked a lot of stuff (battlegrounds for example) during its release and I don't remember this release being more any more stable than other mmorpg releases (AoC, War, Aion, Rift etc). A pretty standard release yeah?

The rest - normal games. Before everyone started worshipping Blizzard like gods and had hundreds of millions of fans. Don't count

So from what I can see, they performed a decent job with one game and then handled some expansions fairly well. That's not very special is it? Why are they considering some kind of gods? Why are everyone always stating how Blizzard is the best at handling releases when it pretty much only has handled one "real" tough job to handle, WoW? And now with the grand online game Diablo 3, they finally got a second challenge to overcome and just because they did a fine job the first time, everyone thought they were unstoppable but yeah look how that turned out! People are always acting like Blizzard yearly releases major major games and they are all released in a stable 100% condition but hey, it's one game. One game. Not hundred per month like people seem to think.




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I agree with all of that except I thought Warcraft 3 was the greatest rts ever made when it launched. God that game was amazing for 2002. It was the one time Blizzard decided to even remotely innovate with anything(more rpg-ish elements with the heroes) and it worked out so perfectly.
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#20 James00715
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As far as the online-only stuff, definitely they hurt their rep because of the bad launch. As far as battle.net and multiplayer though, Diablo 2 was just as bad at launch. I remember logins were fine, but you couldn't actually create a game. Even when you tried it would put you in a queue for 2 hours or so. Finally, you would get to your turn to create a game, some error would happen, and you were back at the end of the queue for another 2 hours. Battle.net just didn't work for at least a few weeks, but then I just went back to single player. Diablo 3 doesn't have any true single player, so everyone got stuck dealing with the same Battle.net issues all over again.

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#21 slabber44
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If every developer's rep was based on their game at release, then 90% of them would suck. What games that have been reliant on server's for play recently, hasn't had a multitude of issues lately? They just can't test them for every possible problem that may occur. Whether it be server related, hardware, or just plain bugs. Beta's try their best, but they never use the finished product half the time so unforeseen issues crop up. Blizzard is fine. They've made their money and they will hopefully learn a little something from the D3 problems. They did resolve most of issues pretty quickly. Not all developers get it going better that fast.
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I don't think so, they seem to be working hard to satisfy everybody (while other companies wouldn't give a **** at this point anymore because the game already sold and made its money), but its hard when theres so many people with so many different opinions on the game. I still don't know what the peoples problem with the release is, there has been a few maintenance and i've seen the AH down twice since release, other than that i was able to play the game very good and lagfree. At release day i waited 40mins, came in and played for a full 10 hours straight without any problems, maybe it was worse for US players? I don't know.

The forums like people mentioned has always been filled with trolls, its hard to actually find usefull information on the game without seeing trolls all the time.

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#23 Justforvisit
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I'll officially decide on this matter if Blizzard on the GamesCom 2012 still will have the biggest area or not.

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#24 darktx2005
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Personally i don't think launch day issues are that big of deal. Almost every major release is going to have online issues at first, Most likely you aren't ever going to have that many people trying to log on at once ever again. Ride the wave for a couple days and move on.

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#25 SKaREO
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They lost their reputation with this game. I can't blieve people still play WoW, it's identical to this game only no subs....
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They lost their reputation with this game. I can't blieve people still play WoW, it's identical to this game only no subs....SKaREO
........................ Your right its the exact game.. Outside its not a mmo, it has no talent tree, has a completely different setting and story.. Diferent item system, different classes, different perspective, different gameplay mechanics such as having no triforce group mechanics.. So other than that YEP your right they are exactly right in that they have things that die on screen and your character getting stronger.
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#27 Haarhus
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They lost their reputation with this game. I can't blieve people still play WoW, it's identical to this game only no subs....SKaREO
For me they gained reputation, D3 is masterpiece. WoW is still one of the best MMOs out there that's why people play it.

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#28 ChiliDragon
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Please keep all Diablo 3 discussion in the sticky.