I was thinking for xmas, buying my parents a HD DVD player......even though blu ray is getting more support its cheaper.....do you think its worth it to spend 499/599 canadian dollars on a HD DVD player even though its losing to blu ray?
If you are okay with the fact that it is most likely going to lose the format war. The Toshiba players are better than any of the Blu-ray players at upconverting standard DVD's, and the catalog that Universal, Paramount, Warner, and Weinstein(sp?) have brought have been terrific. By the end of the year there will be a little over 300 HD DVD movies.
The format will probably lose, unless something dramatic happens. But it will look great for the movies that you do buy and your standard DVD's will look great too. And if/when HD DVD does lose, the player will still work and play those movies.
The format war is going to go back and forth between either format for quite some time so to say HD DVD is losing to Blu Ray is a bit premature. However this is my opnion. I spent around $650 for my Toshiba HD A1 and its well worth every penny even though its fairly slow. However the new HD-A2's are alot faster in terms of performance. The upconversaion of standard def dvds is top notch, not to mention HD DVD playback is amazing. So yes if they will use it , then go for it.
The format war is going to go back and forth between either format for quite some time so to say HD DVD is losing to Blu Ray is a bit premature
No, it's really not HD-DVD has virtualy no exclusive industry support, no matter how much Jack likes to pretend that doesn't matter, and they're losing 3-5% of the market a week. This week was a 3% drop falling to 79%. With the A++ catalogtitles on the way from Blu-Ray, the fact that 60% of the movies ever made are exclusive to it, and that only Universal, who has pretty much already blown their non-Spielburg A+ titles (which won't be released on either format until mass penetration is achieved), and if you check out he HD-DVD release lineup, you'll see virtually everything is either coming to both (Warner and Paramount), or is a new release, or a B level catalog title. Nothing that sells decks. You'll be able to get a Blu-Ray player that cheaply by Christmas, unless they've started firesaling the HD-DVD decks by then they won'[t be that much cheaper as Toshiba is losing their shirt on each and every one of them, without the massive game royalties and downloadable content money the PS3 can generate (it's on the order of $8-10 per game, compared to a nickel fora movie) But hey, don't take my word for it now, check the market shares come November, and I think you'll see what I said played out.
spent around $650 for my Toshiba HD A1 and its well worth every penny even though its fairly slow
And that's exactly why he's telling you "it's far from over",because he spent $650 on it and wants to defend his purchase.
Kodai, hes not asking about Blu Ray players now is he? Hes asking about HD DVD. Im tired of your HD DVD hating when if i recall you don't even own the format.
Kodai, hes not asking about Blu Ray players now is he? Hes asking about HD DVD. Im tired of your HD DVD hating when if i recall you don't even own the format. BlacKJaCK2290
He was asking if it was worth it. But pointing out the likely success of Bluray it could possibly render an HD-DVD purchase in the near future as something worthless. And yes I own a Toshiba HD-DVD player, and would have like to have seen it be the chosen format. Unfortunately that's not going to happen. That's the price you pay for being an early adopter. Also, try not to attach yourself to the hunks of plastic and metal on an emotional level.
Im tired of your HD DVD hating when if i recall you don't even own the format.
Why would I buy something I knew would fail from before either one launched?
Unfortunately that's not going to happen. That's the price you pay for being an early adopter. Also, try not to attach yourself to the hunks of plastic and metal on an emotional level.
[QUOTE="BlacKJaCK2290"]Kodai, hes not asking about Blu Ray players now is he? Hes asking about HD DVD. Im tired of your HD DVD hating when if i recall you don't even own the format. ramey70
He was asking if it was worth it. But pointing out the likely success of Bluray it could possibly render an HD-DVD purchase in the near future as something worthless. And yes I own a Toshiba HD-DVD player, and would have like to have seen it be the chosen format. Unfortunately that's not going to happen. That's the price you pay for being an early adopter. Also, try not to attach yourself to the hunks of plastic and metal on an emotional level. I'm not attached to it at all on a "emotional lever". If HD DVD fails the A1 will have served its purpose and will continue to do so. My point being was that Kodai is being somewhat of a troll. The OP was asking if it was worth it to buy a HD DVD as its cheaper than Blu Ray, hence ruling a BD player out of the question. Sure HD DVD may not win in the end, heck Blu Ray might fail too .. they might even both fail. At this moment, its far too early to tell.
Thanks everyone....I'll wait until around October/November and see what its like then to make my decision....ill probally try to find a cheap blu ray player
[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="BlacKJaCK2290"]Kodai, hes not asking about Blu Ray players now is he? Hes asking about HD DVD. Im tired of your HD DVD hating when if i recall you don't even own the format. BlacKJaCK2290
He was asking if it was worth it. But pointing out the likely success of Bluray it could possibly render an HD-DVD purchase in the near future as something worthless. And yes I own a Toshiba HD-DVD player, and would have like to have seen it be the chosen format. Unfortunately that's not going to happen. That's the price you pay for being an early adopter. Also, try not to attach yourself to the hunks of plastic and metal on an emotional level. I'm not attached to it at all on a "emotional lever". If HD DVD fails the A1 will have served its purpose and will continue to do so. My point being was that Kodai is being somewhat of a troll. The OP was asking if it was worth it to buy a HD DVD as its cheaper than Blu Ray, hence ruling a BD player out of the question. Sure HD DVD may not win in the end, heck Blu Ray might fail too .. they might even both fail. At this moment, its far too early to tell.
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How can anyone who is contemplating a big purchase not consider the competition? Shouldn't the Pros and Cons be weighed out to acheive a winner? Is it not possible that Blu Ray has some Pros and Cons to look into? I don't see Kodai trolling in this case he is simply giving his impressions on the HD topic, I don't thinkhe is trying to hype Blu Ray, I just think he is being realistic.
The TC should understand that there are two competing formats and one of them will most likely lose. If that is something he can deal with then he should buy whatever player he wants. Do the films coming out for HD-DVD interest him or his parents more? Does the technology appeal to him? These are all things to consider, as well as Blu Rays current (and small) market lead.
He may have not been much of a troll in this thread. It seems however that every single HD DVD related thread he has to come in and spout of his Blu Ray propaganda. I understand if he prefers Blu Ray, but not everyone needs to hear it.
He may have not been much of a troll in this thread. It seems however that every single HD DVD related thread he has to come in and spout of his Blu Ray propaganda. I understand if he prefers Blu Ray, but not everyone needs to hear it.
Oh come off it. Everything I say is verifiably true, by neutral, industry recognized sources like Nielsen VideoScan It has nothing to do with "preference", or as you keep accusing me of "not having experienced HD-DVD" or "thinking it inferior". I've seen it, there's nothing wrong with the tech. These people are looking to buy it, and they need to be aware that they are almost certainly throwing away their money because they're going to have to re-buy them all again on Blu-Ray. You love your deck, good for you, but don't try to shut up people simply because of an inconvenient truth for you.
Do you forget how HD DVD beat Blu Ray in sales for a very very long time. Just as easy as the momentium switched over to BD it can switch back over the HD DVD. All im saying is don't jump the gun here this war is far from over and declaring BD the victor already is very very foolish .. no matter what this weeks sales rankings are.
Do you forget how HD DVD beat Blu Ray in sales for a very very long time. Just as easy as the momentium switched over to BD it can switch back over the HD DVD. All im saying is don't jump the gun here this war is far from over and declaring BD the victor already is very very foolish .. no matter what this weeks sales rankings are.
Of course it did, Blu-Ray soft launched, and then hard launched with the PS3, prior to then there was no real big push, and no big gun titles, and that was on purpose. They wouldn't have even put out a single disc or deck before the PS3 had they not wanted to give HD-DVD 6 months with the market to itself. That should be obvious by how many discs were obviously not done properly, and how many players were really late in shipping (Pioneer) or shipped badly configured (Samsung) There is virtually no possible way that HD-DVD can ever recover, based on its lack of studio and hardware support, nor are there any system-selling titles on the horizon for it that aren't on Blu-Ray, and no one will be jumping ship to HD with the current market slippage of 3% a week on average. If the scuttlebutt is true, the retailers will not support a format war past this Christmas, and several major retailers (Wal-Mart and Best Buy) are planning on dumping it before Christmas starts. I'm not jumping the gun, all the facts were available before either format launched, and anyone who had any experience in retail in any sort of management/buyer position could tell you the same
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