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#1 xipotec
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First off, Thanks to all the posters who helped me decide on the various components though the past few weeks. I hope I chose well. I know I could build my owm system much cheaper, BUT

Wife+Kids+Job+House= No free time. (and no, I cannot remove any of the variables from this equation!!!)

I would rather spend my free time gaming!!!!! Plus I am lazy and have a few extra bucks right now.

Thanks Again, Gamespots forumrocks.....

xipo

Here we go....

Anything I should do differently or have overdone, please comment freely. Please try to be constructive as this is a 3000.00 system and I really value the advice from everyone.

[1] Area-51® 7500

Alienware P2 Chassis: Alienware® P2 Chassis with AlienIceTM 3.0 Video Cooling - Space Black
System Lighting: Alienware® Standard System Lighting - Plasma Purple
High-Performance Liquid Cooling: Alienware® High-Performance Liquid Cooling
Acoustic Dampening: Alienware® Acoustic Dampening (will be in a occupied room)
Power Supply: Alienware® 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Dual Graphics Processors - Dual 512MB NVIDIA® GeForceTM 8800 GT - SLI Enabled
Processor: Intel® CoreTM 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz 8MB Cache 1066MHz FSB
Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI Motherboard
Operating System (Office software not included): Windows Vista® Home Premium - DirectX 10 Ready!
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer DVD±RW w/ LightScribe
Enthusiast Essentials: Dual High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Ports
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster® X-FiTM XtremeGamer High Definition 7.1 Audio - More Info
Monitor: Samsung 206BW 20" Widescreen Monitor

Screen size (diagonal)?20" Widescreen Yes Maximum resolution?1680 x 1050 Brightness 300cd/m2 Contrast ratio?3000:1 Response time 2-millisecond Viewing angle width (degrees) 160 horizontal/vertical
Keyboard: Alienware® USB Full-Size Keyboard
Mouse : Standard Optical 3-Button Mouse with Scroll Wheel
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service
AlienRespawn: AlienRespawn v2.0 Recovery DVD - Windows Vista® Edition
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mousepad
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Alienware Extras: Owner Identification Card
Alienware Extras: Internal Wire Management
Avatar: Alien Cyborg
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Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Wallpaper: Alienhead Glow (Widescreen)
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Power Plan: High Performance
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#2 Sentinel672002
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Overpriced, but a solid system. You could get more performance with dual 8800GTS 512MB cards... :)
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These specs seem pretty good; this computer will last you for a while. One thing I'm wondering about though - is the quad-core processor worth it? I haven't been checking up on hardware news for a while, but I thought that dual-core cost a lot less but provided similar performance in most applications. However, if the situation has changed recently, then correct me if I'm wrong.
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#4 X360PS3AMD05
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You can remove some of those variables ;) It'll cost a pretty penny, but then you'll get to live on your own in an apartment :D
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#5 xipotec
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they want another 1000.00 for dual gs 765
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#6 hoola
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That looks like a great computer but i would not suggest going with Alienware. I have heard bad things about the customer service and the quality of the computers. Other than that it seems great.

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#7 Sentinel672002
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they want another 1000.00 for dual gs 765xipotec

??? HUH ???

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#8 Miles0T0Prower
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take that list and go to newegg,com and build the thing yourself and youll save around 600$
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#9 Crysis_Pwns
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Alienware

xipotec
Well theres yer problem.
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#10 spam-Robot
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What. The. No.

Go to Newegg, and put in all of those exact same specs, see how much money you save.

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#11 xipotec
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Does new egg build the system,

If not please re-read the post .

Always alot of alienware bashing, not everyone has alot of time to build a system (or full knowledge of how to do it) AND some of us make good money and can afford to pay someone else a premium to build the system.

For those of you who suggested Not to go with alienware, who would you suggest?

I do not feel I will really need support after the pc is built, that much I can handle.

Thanks for the replies.

Xipo

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#12 NamelessPlayer
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Either buy all of the seperate components from a place like Newegg and save yourself some money, or get a substantially superior system for the cost. For a 3000 US$ PC, that is disappointing. For one, if you built it yourself, you could probably afford a Core 2 Extreme QX9650! That CPU is ridiculously overpriced, but it's the only way to get a Penryn-family CPU without looking into the Xeon range. Also, they certainly could have shoved an Auzentech X-Fi Prelude in there for the price. Or, you could have used the extra cash for a phase-change cooling system or something else over-the-top! Oh, and they only give you Windows Vista Home Premium instead of Windows Vista Ultimate. If free time is an issue, perhaps you can find a local electronics or computer store that would be willing to take all of the parts and set your new PC up for you?
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#13 Mr_NoName111
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I realize that you are busy, but think about it like this: take 1 day to build the computer yourself, and save over a thousand dollars. 1k$ in one day is hard to make.
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#14 xipotec
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Your all right, of course. I have the knowledge to build a system, but not the time to buy, and build everything. I did this on my last time , over 5 years ago, and since have gotten a good job and again, money is not that big of a deal. I was really just wondering if the system specs were decent for todays games and possibly for a few years down the line.

I dont think i have the knowledge to handle a liquid cooling system though! :o

xipo

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#15 karasill
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To everyone here bashing Alienware. What's wrong with it? So what if the guy wants to spend extra money on it. I mean why buy a $200,000 Ferrari when a souped up Honda with a turbo charger can be just as fast? It's about status and not everyone is a "do-it" yourself kind of person.

High-end Alienwares are for people who want bragging rights and don't want to build it themselves. What "we" PC builders do is basically what car enthusiasts do to their Honda's and Ford's. Sure we can make our computers just as fast as any Alienware or Dell XPS, but in the end our computers are no Ferraris.

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#17 blackstar
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Other options besides Alienware and Dell XPS (which I dont recommend) is look into AVAdirect. I heard they are good, plus you are very flexible with the choices you can have when choosing parts.

The PSU seems to be an overkill. You should probably look into the 600-700W range.

Also get a gaming mouse, its worth it, like a logitech G5.

Yes, your system is capable are running most game at MAX settings, Crysis on HIGH settings (not VERY HIGH with high resolution).
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#18 xipotec
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Thank you karasill, very good analogy.

At 36 years old I have been a do it yourselfer for hundreds of projects I have practically built my own house. An you know what I have learned....sometimes its a good thing to sit back at let someone else do it , and pay the premium for the work. (I still cut my own grass, but bought a ride on mower!!! LOL)

I really didnot want a lecture about the evils of corporate built puter's, just was asking if the specs were good.

I considered posting the specs minues the alienware title, to avoid this whole mess...

Read the inital post, I was afraid this would turn into a alienbashing fest.

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To everyone here bashing Alienware. What's wrong with it? So what if the guy wants to spend extra money on it. I mean why buy a $200,000 Ferrari when a souped up Honda with a turbo charger can be just as fast? It's about status and not everyone is a "do-it" yourself kind of person.

High-end Alienwares are for people who want bragging rights and don't want to build it themselves. What "we" PC builders do is basically what car enthusiasts do to their Honda's and Ford's. Sure we can make our computers just as fast as any Alienware or Dell XPS, but in the end our computers are no Ferraris.

karasill
To me, the status and bragging rights of a computer are all about its specs, and only that. I don't care about what label that computer may have-I care about how well it performs. If you have the money and are too lazy to build one, go ahead and get that Alienware. However, most people, myself included, generally can't pull money out of their asses whenever they feel like it, and thus need to get the most bang for their buck. If we have to assemble the PC ourselves to save money, so be it. (And some of us actually enjoy the building process.) Anyway, back on topic: OP, just go ahead and buy the PC you listed if it makes you happy and you don't mind the huge hole in your wallet that will result afterwards. It's YOUR money, after all, not mine.
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#20 xipotec
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The PSU choice was for some room to grow.

Same with the CPU. I know Quad is a bit much right NOW, but I would like to have to avoid upgrading for at least a year or so, I know its likely I wont make it that long with the GPU

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#21 elitegeek13
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go with voodoo. or cyberpower. or Falcon Northwest. Just please save yourself the headache and dont do alienware.
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#22 karasill
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[QUOTE="karasill"]

To everyone here bashing Alienware. What's wrong with it? So what if the guy wants to spend extra money on it. I mean why buy a $200,000 Ferrari when a souped up Honda with a turbo charger can be just as fast? It's about status and not everyone is a "do-it" yourself kind of person.

High-end Alienwares are for people who want bragging rights and don't want to build it themselves. What "we" PC builders do is basically what car enthusiasts do to their Honda's and Ford's. Sure we can make our computers just as fast as any Alienware or Dell XPS, but in the end our computers are no Ferraris.

NamelessPlayer

To me, the status and bragging rights of a computer are all about its specs, and only that. I don't care about what label that computer may have-I care about how well it performs. If you have the money and are too lazy to build one, go ahead and get that Alienware. However, most people, myself included, generally can't pull money out of their asses whenever they feel like it, and thus need to get the most bang for their buck. If we have to assemble the PC ourselves to save money, so be it. (And some of us actually enjoy the building process.) Anyway, back on topic: OP, just go ahead and buy the PC you listed if it makes you happy and you don't mind the huge hole in your wallet that will result afterwards. It's YOUR money, after all, not mine.

Well unlike you, some people do care about brand names and are intimidated by even touching computer hardware. Some people just don't want to take the time to learn how to make one and deal with those small problems that can cause massive headaches.

If you didn't know how to change your brakes, would you try to learn on your own and pray you did a good job, or would you just spend the extra money and have a pro do it for you? It's all about confidence and knowledge, not everyone is confident to open up a computer, just as I'm not confident opening up the hood of my car and "playing" around with things. If you make good money then why not spend the extra dough?

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#23 xipotec
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One more note,

I think many of the Techo-geeks, forget how difficult putting togethera system can be. No offense, I am a techno-geek myself, who has been off the map for about7 years, (obtaining my degree). The time it takes to "catch up" on the newest technology has ALREADY taken me over 2 weeks, nevermind the engineering that i would have to 'relearn". I do not "live" in the PC world full time anymore, but I still love to Frag with the rest.

My first computer was a commadore 64.

Just wanna play man, just wanna play.

No Lectures needed.

xipo

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#24 karasill
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One more note,

I think many of the Techo-geeks, forget how difficult putting togethera system can be. No offense, I am a techno-geek myself, who has been off the map for about7 years, (obtaining my degree). The time it takes to "catch up" on the newest technology has ALREADY taken me over 2 weeks, nevermind the engineering that i would have to 'relearn". I do not "live" in the PC world full time anymore, but I still love to Frag with the rest.

My first computer was a commadore 64.

Just wanna play man, just wanna play.

No Lectures needed.

xipo

xipotec
Just spend the extra cash and buy a premade computer. Some Tech Geeks here are truly disturbed that you'd consider a pre-built, but hey not everyone is a "do-it" yourself kind of person.
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#25 xipotec
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go with voodoo. or cyberpower. or Falcon Northwest. Just please save yourself the headache and dont do alienware.elitegeek13

What about these manufacturers? How good are they?

Xipo

Thanks for the straight reply.

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#26 xfactor19990
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That looks like a great computer but i would not suggest going with Alienware. I have heard bad things about the customer service and the quality of the computers. Other than that it seems great.

hoola

besides driver support the PC is built well

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#27 elitegeek13
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well, building is the best way to go, but i understand your needs and ive been there before too. (building at 15 years old sucks btw. for me anyway.) voodoo is killer. so is falcon northwest, while cyber power is your most bang for buck. id say pick one of these. If you want more brands, go to a grocery store and flip through a magazine like cpu, and write down some of the brands in the ads you see in it. Then go to their websites and configure your system.

On another note, look up reviews for the manufacturers your interested in, and see how their systems run. I personally have found falcon northwest and voodoo to be the two elites, but i haven't looked at buying from in OEM in ages and there may be other options. The HP blackbird 002 is supposed to be sick, as well.

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#28 elitegeek13
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The PSU choice was for some room to grow.

Same with the CPU. I know Quad is a bit much right NOW, but I would like to have to avoid upgrading for at least a year or so, I know its likely I wont make it that long with the GPU

xipotec

actually, you can get a quad from the other OEMs ive mentioned for alot less than you can with alienware. and it's awesome.

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#29 ardent163
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well, building is the best way to go, but i understand your needs and ive been there before too. (building at 15 years old sucks btw. for me anyway.) voodoo is killer. so is falcon northwest, while cyber power is your most bang for buck. id say pick one of these. If you want more brands, go to a grocery store and flip through a magazine like cpu, and write down some of the brands in the ads you see in it. Then go to their websites and configure your system.

On another note, look up reviews for the manufacturers your interested in, and see how their systems run. I personally have found falcon northwest and voodoo to be the two elites, but i haven't looked at buying from in OEM in ages and there may be other options. The HP blackbird 002 is supposed to be sick, as well.

elitegeek13

i agree with elitegeek13 on the HP blackbird 002 at the moment

your welcome to visit the website here. http://h20435.www2.hp.com/

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Hmm, I would actually prefer it if the Alienware offices burned down. That way they wouldn't be able to lure so many people into their blatant scams, but whatever.

Honestly, if you manage to actually take longer then 2 hours while building a new pc, you're doing something wrong. If you manage to take longer then 30 minutes installing Windows XP (Vista, what's that? Lalalala, can't hear you), you're doing something wrong. If you take longer then 1-2 hours installing drivers, apps and a few games, you're also doing something wrong.

Point being, if you do it right, you could just take a weekend day, start in the morning and be gaming by the afternoon.
IF you do it right.
You say you used to be a tech geek? Well, add about 15 minutes of reading through the various manuals and about 10 minutes of plain flashback tripping-into-geek-land, and you're done.
Seriously, how many of us assemble a new pc every week? Not too many, I think.
It was probably about a year since I last touched a freaking motherboard when I built my new PC. I had to think about what I was doing too, it's normal.
Besides, how hard is it to look up a "building a PC guide for complete idiots" and printing that out, you'll probably only need it to reassure yourself that what you're doing is correct and that the pc isn't going to snap in 2 if you continue what you do. (or at least that's what I always have :P)

With the remaining money, you can buy some icecream for the wife, kids, your boss and the house!
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#31 Platearmor_6
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Wife+Kids+Job+House= No free time. (and no, I cannot remove any of the variables from this equation!!!)

xipotec

HAHAHAHA nice one. Very true. Anyways great looking rig.