Help Buying a new VideoCard, which one is better?

I'm currently looking for a new Video card and I am wondering where the best place to buy it is. I'm in Canada, but any place online that sells is ok. I am on a limited budget so these to cards are perfect in price range. I have a question about these two video cards and I want to know which one is better.

This is the first one: 128MB PNY GeForce FX 5700 AGP8x TV Tuner DDR PCFX5700APB. And here's the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=459632&cid=304&sid=0

Here is the last one: 256MB PNY GeForce FX5200 DDR VGA VGA TV AGP8x VCGFX522APB, And again gere is the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=392664&cid=304&sid=0

I want to play some good games, but my current VC is crap. I CAN'T EVEN PLAY HALO or World of Warcraft (not a good enough 3d Accelerator card. Assumes that is a Video Card).

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Honestly, neither of those are any good. Those are some very old cards and would stuggle to play anthing modern on the lowest possible settings. It is obvious you have an AGP slot but I wouldn't suggest going below a 7600GS,

6600GT would work for you too. Here are the real options for you: 6600GT, 6800GT, 7600GS if you are gonna be inexpensive

It would help to see the rest of your specs

I'm currently looking for a new Video card and I am wondering where the best place to buy it is. I'm in Canada, but any place online that sells is ok. I am on a limited budget so these to cards are perfect in price range. I have a question about these two video cards and I want to know which one is better.

This is the first one: 128MB PNY GeForce FX 5700 AGP8x TV Tuner DDR PCFX5700APB. And here's the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=459632&cid=304&sid=0

Here is the last one: 256MB PNY GeForce FX5200 DDR VGA VGA TV AGP8x VCGFX522APB, And again gere is the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=392664&cid=304&sid=0

I want to play some good games, but my current VC is crap. I CAN'T EVEN PLAY HALO or World of Warcraft (not a good enough 3d Accelerator card. Assumes that is a Video Card).

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

elite_s3rpent

Ick. Those cards sucked 2 years ago.

for today i wouldn't recommend to buy anything lower than GeForce 6800GT but if you REALLY can't buy the GeForce 6800GT i would choose the GeForce 5200 - looks like it has more MBPredatorRules

Ram means little when the clock speed is as different as those two cards are. The 5700 has a much nigher clock speed, but as you said, has only half the memory. Both are severely inferior to any 6 series card and I would strongly advise against getting either.

I'm currently looking for a new Video card and I am wondering where the best place to buy it is. I'm in Canada, but any place online that sells is ok. I am on a limited budget so these to cards are perfect in price range. I have a question about these two video cards and I want to know which one is better.

This is the first one: 128MB PNY GeForce FX 5700 AGP8x TV Tuner DDR PCFX5700APB. And here's the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=459632&cid=304&sid=0

Here is the last one: 256MB PNY GeForce FX5200 DDR VGA VGA TV AGP8x VCGFX522APB, And again gere is the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=392664&cid=304&sid=0

I want to play some good games, but my current VC is crap. I CAN'T EVEN PLAY HALO or World of Warcraft (not a good enough 3d Accelerator card. Assumes that is a Video Card).

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

elite_s3rpent

its pointless buying one of those. try and stretch to a 7600, its really worth it. dont throw your money away on a 5 series.

Thank god someone responded Here is what I'm looking for, I need a faster speed then 128 MB and a AGPx4 or higher. Those are what I'm basically looking to upgrade, but I do want to play good games. Something modern would be nice or something that can run games from 05 ( battlefield 2142 and stuff like that).

Video memory is 32 MBDDR and it's a AGP interface. I need something good but not to expensive, can some one send me a link to the "good stuff". Thanks.

Honestly, neither of those are any good. Those are some very old cards and would stuggle to play anthing modern on the lowest possible settings. It is obvious you have an AGP slot but I wouldn't suggest going below a 7600GS,

6600GT would work for you too. Here are the real options for you: 6600GT, 6800GT, 7600GS if you are gonna be inexpensive

It would help to see the rest of your specs

seabiscuit8686

I looked at the card and it's nice, but it says 128 Mb, will that still run good games?

Thank god someone responded Here is what I'm looking for, I need a faster speed then 128 MB and a AGPx4 or higher. Those are what I'm basically looking to upgrade, but I do want to play good games. Something modern would be nice or something that can run games from 05 ( battlefield 2142 and stuff like that).

Video memory is 32 MBDDR and it's a AGP interface. I need something good but not to expensive, can some one send me a link to the "good stuff". Thanks.

elite_s3rpent

You won't be able to play BF 2142 normally with those cards that you want to buy. A 6600GT 128MB is the cheapest card I would get. What processor and how much RAM do you have?

obviously hes buying rock bottom. but a 6600gt agp if you can find one are dirt cheap and will play wow, css decently enough. Halo will be iffy, your framerate will probably be crap even on the lowest settings.

This will all depends on the rest of your system aswell, reserch it abit. I wouldn't bother upgrading a pc older than a 2.4 northwood Pentium 4 or equivelent AMD to play wow, or games around that level.

6800 series cards were very good. Definitely would recommend going with an 6800GT, or 6600 if the 6800 is out of the budget. How is the rest of you're system, buying a videocard this low in spec typically means you're system is aged, how's you're ram if that's not high enough you're games will work like crap no matter how great of a video card you get. The CPU can also make a big impact.

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How about this card? http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=459634

I Talked with my friend and he said a 8800, I know those are expensive but are they a leap from 7600?

I will tell you right now - I am Canadian as well.

And the most AMAZING place to get anything computer related is Canada Computers.

www.canadacomputers.com

they have such amazing prices on just about everything.

I don't know if they have what your looking for.

but regardless, they have crazy prices on just about everything.

AND! (best part):

flat 6.99 shipping rate on anything in Canada.

that is, unless you live in the territories.

I advise you to check it out.

p.s.

you can get an ATI x1650 Pro for $113.

plus shipping, that's only 120 plus tax.

there's a bunch of others there two, just search AGP and select AGP cards under category

Well I checked Canada Computers and I founf this one http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=011048&cid=999.821 It looks good. I also checked out the ATI x1650 http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=012609&cid=999.821 and it also looks good which one is better?

I'm currently looking for a new Video card and I am wondering where the best place to buy it is. I'm in Canada, but any place online that sells is ok. I am on a limited budget so these to cards are perfect in price range. I have a question about these two video cards and I want to know which one is better.

This is the first one: 128MB PNY GeForce FX 5700 AGP8x TV Tuner DDR PCFX5700APB. And here's the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=459632&cid=304&sid=0 elite_s3rpent

Nope. Only a miniscule step better than mere junk. You do not want that.

Here is the last one: 256MB PNY GeForce FX5200 DDR VGA VGA TV AGP8x VCGFX522APB, And again here is the site. http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=392664&cid=304&sid=0

That one is below basement level junk, septic tank level, even.

I want to play some good games, but my current VC is crap. I CAN'T EVEN PLAY HALO or World of Warcraft (not a good enough 3d Accelerator card. Assumes that is a Video Card).

Neither of those will play anything from the past year. Go to NCIX to shop, for a Canadian retailer with decent online prices.

Don't settle for any card with a number smaller than "600" for its last three numbers, and even the Geforce 6600 Vanilla is rather weak, and should be avoided. Right now, for about $75, you can get the PCIe version of the 7600 GS, and it's not a bad card. AGP will cost you more -- about $90 for a 7600 GS, I believe.

As per one of your earlier respondents: "Ick. Those cards sucked 2 years ago. " But actually, it was more than three years ago when they were brand new and already known to be awful.

You've already been told that the size of VRAM isn't a factor in animation speed, what counts are the core processor speed, the VRAM speed, and the memory system Bit Width. Total VRAM comes last after those. You could put a hundred MBs of VRAM on an FX 5200 if there was somewhere to attach it all, and it would still be horrible trash, not anything at all worth buying.

You'll need to be made out oif money to expect to play games on a laptop. The average such PC can't play much of anything, you have to pay big bucks to get those that have game capability, and HP most certainly isn't it (other than through their VooDoo subsidiary).

The question is will it fit in my computer? And what else do I need to check to make sure it's compatible.

The question is will it fit in my computer? And what else do I need to check to make sure it's compatible.

y doesn't realy mean so much.

And anyway with even the tiniest budget you must get minimum a 7300GT. I see you have an AGP slot. 7600GS\GT are good options as well, and they don't cost much!

Even thinking of buying a geforce 5xxx these days is ridiculous. Don't get near them even if they offer 2048MB of RAM.

@ superdog

Newegg doesn't ship to CANADA I think.

You could go all out and get either a 7800 AGP or even better (and more expensive) an ATi X1950 AGP.TacticalElefant

ATI X1950 pro. My friend owns it, and its quite powerful mid range card. Yes it plays 2142 very nicely, provided you have the specs.

im telling you, Canada Computers man :P

as for between a 7600GS and a 1600XT....

id say 1600XT.

for no more of a reason than ATI is Canadian (woot!) and Nvidia can't do anti-aliasing and something else at the same time on their video cards. I have a 7300GS and because it can't do both at once it bogs down the system sometimes.

But even for laptops, check Canada Computer's premade ones. they could be good.

or why not get a preconfigured system? some of them are dirt cheap and could probably run BF2142. I've seen ones that can definitly run it well for under 1000 or even under 800

It can't do HDR+AA. That isn't very popular, but it certainly does add a lot of beauty to the graphics. On the other hand, AA is not a must have, unless you really want those jaggies out (who does see jaggies when playing in intense battles etc?)

The question is will it fit in my computer? And what else do I need to check to make sure it's compatible.

elite_s3rpent

probably you'll need to buy a whole new computer - i mean if your video card really sucks - even more than GeForce 5 then i'm sure same think about processor and RAM memory

as for between a 7600GS and a 1600XT....

id say 1600XT.

I have a 7300GS and because it can't do both at once it bogs down the system sometimes.

Metroid_16

ATI isn't producing X1600 XTs these days. In the mid-level, they have two X1650 cards, the Pro, which has roughly the same performance as the 7600 GS (slightly less than a game player really wants), and the X1650 XT, which is in the same performance class as the 7600 GT. The nVidia card is slightly faster at the upper middle level, while the ATI card has just slightly better overall image quality. Supposedly, the current Geforce 8xxx cards have finally caught up on the image deficiency they faced for so long, but I haven't tested any of those in my own systems.

At the level that the 7600 and X1650 were competing, there is a new generation of mid-level cards, with the 8600s from nVidia's partners, and the HD2600s now finally appearing from ATI. The shakeout at this level is yet to be determined.

The only way to know about the physical SPACE available in the old PC is to open the access panel and look inside. Measure the back to front space, and the clearance from slot to side panel, and compare that to the card you decide on (you'll have to resist the urge to buy, but you need to look at a sample in a storefront, while carrying your pocket rule to check it against). There are only three "compatibility" verifications to deal with, and you must handle those from your end.

First is the AGP1 - AGP2 - AGP3 slot variation (2X, 4X, and 8X accelleration speeds). You have determined, I believe, that you have AGP2. Second is the physical size of the PC's enclosure. Third is the current output of the power supply. Different video cards have different requirements, with the ATI high performance cards being very thirsty for electricity. The 12 Volt circuit on the power supply is the one that is critical, not the total number of watts that a PSU might potentially ever supply all at one time.

Meanwhile, has anyone noticed that this is HARDWARE, and the forum is GAMES, not hardware?

I have know clue what to do. So I'm just going to get a laptop and customize to my hearts content. Thanks for all the help. One more question ( lol you know it was coming) What's better HP or dell for gaming? (others too if they kill the rest)elite_s3rpent

Unless you're really on the move all the time and just have to have a laptop, never buy one for gaming. Laptops cost much more than desktops and can't even be upgraded without literally taking the thing apart. And if you want to get a desktop now I would stay away from hp and dell, both of them love to use strange custom parts and cases that keep you from upgrading without directly buying from them. The best route is to build your own, but that's just to much for some people. Try one of these two sites

http://www.ibuypower.com or http://www.cyberpowerpc.com

I honestly don't know which one is better but you can design your own comp and they will build it for you. Costs less than namebrand companies for sure.

Get a new computer. If you only have a AGP slot. you cant get good cards. Get a computer with a PCI-Express and go with the newer cards. Or your best bet is just to wait for new and better cards. The newer cards have many problems. 0Goldeneye0

Yep, he's right.....

everyone here is sick - ATI is the way to go for great graphics! why not try an older chipset like the 1650? they can be had for 50 bucks and can play modern games on low settings. (why is everyone in here nvidia fanboys?)Inuasha

He's right too.....and dude go to the hardware forum.