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#1 xxBaalxx
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i want to buy a computer that plays game ok and i dont know much about them so anyone got any ideas on what computers to buy i think i might spend around 700 at most . Thanks

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#2 Unstoppable_1
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Well I do know a good company. You can check companies to see if they are good by going to www.resellerratings.com Also here is the company I was telling you about. http://vigorgaming.com/main/company.html They have very good reviews at Reseller Ratings. They beat out alienware, cyberpowerpc, dell, and ibuypowerpc by far.
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#3 PutU2REM
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I've said this before, but I'll say it again: do not buy pre-built. No matter who made them, they're crashy, slow, and a pain the you-know-where to work with. Building your own computer is pretty easy, and you get more for your buck than if you buy something pre-built. Message me if you need some hints on where to start. 

I've also said this before, and I'll say it again, too: do not buy the cheapest thing around. You pay more for what you actually get than if you get something in the mid-range, and you'll end up spending more in the long run on upgrades and replacements than if you just bought a decent computer to start with. If I were you, I'd wait until I had about $1000 to spend before buying. My current, 3-year-old machine cost me about $1K, and it's only now starting to struggle with game-playing.

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I've said this before, but I'll say it again: do not buy pre-built. No matter who made them, they're crashy, slow, and a pain the you-know-where to work with. Building your own computer is pretty easy, and you get more for your buck than if you buy something pre-built. Message me if you need some hints on where to start.

I've also said this before, and I'll say it again, too: do not buy the cheapest thing around. You pay more for what you actually get than if you get something in the mid-range, and you'll end up spending more in the long run on upgrades and replacements than if you just bought a decent computer to start with. If I were you, I'd wait until I had about $1000 to spend before buying. My current, 3-year-old machine cost me about $1K, and it's only now starting to struggle with game-playing.

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i couldnt agree more, but for people who really do have no idea, then they should be looking at dells or alienware. there the best ready built pc's around
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#5 Marfoo
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He's right you can save some money building your own, as long as you can get someone knowledgeable to help you if you're not too familiar with PC building you can get a lot more bang for your buck.
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#6 silent999
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Why not www.Ibuypower.com????

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#7 QualityJeverage
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If you know what you're doing, building a computer is definitely the way to go. I just built one for myself (Specs in sig), and was just recently talking to a friend who was trying to find a pre-built one. He found one who's specs were similar (Not identical, but close enough for any differences to be mostly irrelevant.) and it cost a good $400 more than what I had spent on individual parts.
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#8 Liliroots
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You can always look around the unions to get help. Build your own PC is a lot cheaper if you understand the manuals(not suggesting you are retarded or dyslexic). Make sure you know what you are doing or else you might get it wrong. Also try not to overclock if you don't know the PROPER way to do it. A pre-built computer can cost from 100~500 more than a Do-It-Youself computer WITH applications/programs installed.
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there is only one thing to say.... there is no such thing as a nice gaming PC that is cheap.... if you want... buy a hi end PC... and you'll see.. might last for 10 to 15 years investment.....
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#10 Dune571
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Why not www.Ibuypower.com????

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#11 ycdeo
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Get a pci-e machine.:)
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I agree building a PC is the way to go but for $700 please show me what type of gaming machine you actually expect to build right from scratch?

I sell pre built PC's for a living and built my own machine....and for someone to build a $700 custom built gaming machine seems rather silly IMO. My video card cost me $700 dollars alone......

 My suggestion would be to get yourself either a Decent Core 2 Duo pre built OR slowly buy GOOD parts and over time build a machine that you could actually be happy with......unless you plan on buying crap parts and piecing them all together scratching your head wondering why no current games will actually play on this machine you just created take my advice and do it slowly.....

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#13 PutU2REM
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If you know what you're doing, building a computer is definitely the way to go.QualityJeverage
And if you don't know what you're doing, it's easy to learn. I built my first computer when I was 13, and without the help of any of the excellent guides you can find online nowadays.

He found one who's specs were similar (Not identical, but close enough for any differences to be mostly irrelevant.) and it cost a good $400 more than what I had spent on individual parts.QualityJeverage
This is true, but you're forgetting something key: OEM's use cheap, crappy parts. A decent self-built will run faster, crash less often, and be easier to fix than a pre-built. They'll also be less frustrating, as benchmarks and cable-tangles are far more fun than blue screens and technical support-line Muzak.

Save yourself a whole lot of money, time, and frustration. Don't trust anyone else to build your box.

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#14 ycdeo
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And try getting a 3.4ghz processor!
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#15 GeryGo  Moderator
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700$? GeForce 7300GT, 1Gb RAM DDR2, Duo Core, LCD screen and compatible motherboard

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#16 gamerchris810
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700$? GeForce 7300GT, 1Gb RAM DDR2, Duo Core, LCD screen and compatible motherboard

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better than that, 7600gt,1g ddr2 ram,intel pentium4 3.02GHz and lcd screen/campatible motherboard
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#17 AngelsDemon2k1
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I would recommend either Alienware or Dell
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i know pre built are usually bad but i was low on money and i got a decent one for £300 that has 3800+X2, 1gb ddr2 and though it has 256mb shared video memory i getting a new gpu with it anyways
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#19 GeryGo  Moderator
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[QUOTE="PredatorRules"]

700$? GeForce 7300GT, 1Gb RAM DDR2, Duo Core, LCD screen and compatible motherboard

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better than that, 7600gt,1g ddr2 ram,intel pentium4 3.02GHz and lcd screen/campatible motherboard

what's better than that? as you said bit better video card, 1 core processor and motherboard or LCD screen? those parts better than those that i've suggested? i don't think so
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Moved to the correct forum section. :)
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I've said this before, but I'll say it again: do not buy pre-built. No matter who made them, they're crashy, slow, and a pain the you-know-where to work with. Building your own computer is pretty easy, and you get more for your buck than if you buy something pre-built. Message me if you need some hints on where to start. 

I've also said this before, and I'll say it again, too: do not buy the cheapest thing around. You pay more for what you actually get than if you get something in the mid-range, and you'll end up spending more in the long run on upgrades and replacements than if you just bought a decent computer to start with. If I were you, I'd wait until I had about $1000 to spend before buying. My current, 3-year-old machine cost me about $1K, and it's only now starting to struggle with game-playing.

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Some people CANT build their own, for whatever reason. It's unbudging opinions like this that permiate this baord and make me snarl...It's great if you CAN/WANT to do it, but don't automatically assume that condescending opinion, because the way it's postured on this board is always in a condescending nature. I recommend AVADirect if you don't want to build one yourself, but you should wait until you save up some more money.
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#22 PutU2REM
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Some people CANT build their own, for whatever reason.Staryoshi87
This is true, but those people would be best served by a Mac and an XBox. The only reasons I can think of that people couldn't build are a lack of technical know-how and a lack of time. Given how frequently prebuilts break, neither reason makes much sense. If you can think of some other reason to buy pre-built, I'd be glad to hear it.
It's unbudging opinions like this that permiate this baord and make me snarl.Staryoshi87
When you've used 20 pre-built computers for extended periods and when you've been the tech for 20 more, and every single one them has sucked hardcore, Can you blame me for being "unbudging?"

Besides, my opinion is not unbudging. I simply have no reason to change it yet. Maybe if I used an Alienware I would, but I haven't, and our friend doesn't have the cash for one, anyway.

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[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]Some people CANT build their own, for whatever reason.PutU2REM

This is true, but those people would be best served by a Mac and an XBox. The only reasons I can think of that people couldn't build are a lack of technical know-how and a lack of time. Given how frequently prebuilts break, neither reason makes much sense. If you can think of some other reason to buy pre-built, I'd be glad to hear it.
It's unbudging opinions like this that permiate this baord and make me snarl.Staryoshi87
When you've used 20 pre-built computers for extended periods and when you've been the tech for 20 more, and every single one them has sucked hardcore, Can you blame me for being "unbudging?"

Besides, my opinion is not unbudging. I simply have no reason to change it yet. Maybe if I used an Alienware I would, but I haven't, and our friend doesn't have the cash for one, anyway.

I've never had any problems with either a prebuilt or self-built system myself. You must just have quite a string of bad luck there =P HP has served me well...That said, it's fun to build my own too, which I did for my most recent build ;) There is a difference between custom built PCs and pre-built PCs, and that distinction seems to slip through the cracks on this board. The only difference between a custom built PC and a self-built one is that it costs more, you have near zero liability, and it's much more convenient. (It's nice to pick out the parts you want, wait 2 weeks, and voila! You've got a ready-to-go PC that's been tested and is in working order....no bios/driver updates/compatibility checks = w00t :)) What I mean to say is that Custom build comps get lumped in with prebuilt (brand name) ones too often...there is a distinction to be made there.

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#24 PutU2REM
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I've never had any problems with either a prebuilt or self-built system myself. You must just have quite a string of bad luck thereStaryoshi87
And so has just about everyone I've ever known. :P

The only difference between a custom built PC and a self-built one is that it costs more, you have near zero liability, and it's much more convenient.Staryoshi87
Okay, now that I've checked out that site you gave, I'll have to concede your point. I had no idea there were places that let you choose your PSU and memory like AvaDirect does. You could definitely get a nice machine from them.

Still, given that I've never taken longer than a day to build a box and that they charge you a LOT more for some of the parts, it seems kind of silly to buy there, particularly for someone with a $700 budget.