Help choosing a processor

I've decided to build a fairly decent gaming PC. I'm picking a processor right now, and my price range is $300 canadian, or $281.00 US. I've narrowed my decision down to two choices.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003

or the

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773

Which one will provide the best performance and reliability? Or given my price range, is there a better processor I could afford?

Thankyou for all your help.

Those two processors are practically on equal footing with one another. However, the E6600 runs cooler and can be overclocked A LOT further than the 6000+.

Have you thought about waiting until July 22nd for a $266 Q6600?

personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+blazethe1

:lol:

Those two processors are practically on equal footing with one another. However, the E6600 runs cooler and can be overclocked A LOT further than the 6000+.

Have you thought about waiting until July 22nd for a $266 Q6600?

Wesker776

Your post was really helpful, and what I really wanted to know :D.

Will this Q6600 be that much better that it is worth the wait, and the extra money?

[QUOTE="Wesker776"]

Those two processors are practically on equal footing with one another. However, the E6600 runs cooler and can be overclocked A LOT further than the 6000+.

Have you thought about waiting until July 22nd for a $266 Q6600?

weggles

Your post was really helpful, and what I really wanted to know :D.

Will this Q6600 be that much better that it is worth the wait, and the extra money?

Well, it is a quad core...so, I dunno... :P

[QUOTE="weggles"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

Those two processors are practically on equal footing with one another. However, the E6600 runs cooler and can be overclocked A LOT further than the 6000+.

Have you thought about waiting until July 22nd for a $266 Q6600?

Wesker776

Your post was really helpful, and what I really wanted to know :D.

Will this Q6600 be that much better that it is worth the wait, and the extra money?

Well, it is a quad core...so, I dunno... :P

I just found out that NewEgg doesn't ship to Canada, so is this a universal price drop, or a special deal on NewEgg?

Yeah, it's worldwide.

It means that Intel will sell the Q6600 in 1000 unit volumes to global suppliers (who sell it to retailers, who sell it to you).

Yeah, it's worldwide.

It means that Intel will sell the Q6600 in 1000 unit volumes to global suppliers (who sell it to retailers, who sell it to you).

Wesker776

If you can wait real quads are coming out in a few months. The C2Quads are not native.LouieV13

Oh gawd. -_-

Seeing as K10 won't hit desktops until 2008, I don't see why he shouldn't go with the Q6600. Also, K10 will launch with a top speed of 2GHz.

Intel's quad is here, now, with benchmarks and it destorys all other CPUs in multithreaded apps. Native or not, it does what a quad core is supposed to do.

I found this article really great and it might be helpful to you in making decision how to choose a CPU in term of price and performance.

http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/pricevperf/index.x?pg=1

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]If you can wait real quads are coming out in a few months. The C2Quads are not native.Wesker776

Oh gawd. -_-

Seeing as K10 won't hit desktops until 2008, I don't see why he shouldn't go with the Q6600. Also, K10 will launch with a top speed of 2GHz.

Intel's quad is here, now, with benchmarks and it destorys all other CPUs in multithreaded apps. Native or not, it does what a quad core is supposed to do.

personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+blazethe1

OMGOMGOMGMOG !!1 Holy mother of *** x24400+? that runs on 43.4 ghz on dual core :o !!!1SHIFT!!

[QUOTE="blazethe1"]personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+wklzip

OMGOMGOMGMOG !!1 Holy mother of *** x24400+? that runs on 43.4 ghz on dual core :o !!!1SHIFT!!

[QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="blazethe1"]personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+LouieV13

OMGOMGOMGMOG !!1 Holy mother of *** x24400+? that runs on 43.4 ghz on dual core :o !!!1SHIFT!!

:o People from the future invading PC Hardware Discussion ? OMG LEIK IM IN THE PAST OR WAT? :(

[QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="blazethe1"]personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+wklzip

OMGOMGOMGMOG !!1 Holy mother of *** x24400+? that runs on 43.4 ghz on dual core :o !!!1SHIFT!!

:o People from the future invading PC Hardware Discussion ? OMG LEIK IM IN THE PAST OR WAT? :(

[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="blazethe1"]personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+LouieV13

OMGOMGOMGMOG !!1 Holy mother of *** x24400+? that runs on 43.4 ghz on dual core :o !!!1SHIFT!!

:o People from the future invading PC Hardware Discussion ? OMG LEIK IM IN THE PAST OR WAT? :(

T_T where i get my time machine? :pp

If you can wait real quads are coming out in a few months. The C2Quads are not native.LouieV13

a quad, native or not, at $266 is a damn fine deal. I bought my q6600 a few days ago, and it works like a dream. And considering dual-cores are just now being supported, I dont see why he shouldnt get a quad now.

[QUOTE="Wesker776"]

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]If you can wait real quads are coming out in a few months. The C2Quads are not native.LouieV13

Oh gawd. -_-

Seeing as K10 won't hit desktops until 2008, I don't see why he shouldn't go with the Q6600. Also, K10 will launch with a top speed of 2GHz.

Intel's quad is here, now, with benchmarks and it destorys all other CPUs in multithreaded apps. Native or not, it does what a quad core is supposed to do.

http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+to+Launch+Barcelona+Slow+this+August/article7890.htm

Yeah, my mistake, August it is.

But that's the 2.0GHz model, the 2.3-2.4GHz model will come out in early 2008 (can't find a link now, I'll look for it later).

Just over clock em its not that hard :DLouieV13

You can't if the chips aren't able to go further than that.

The fact that AMD is struggling to make faster binned computers is a sign that Barcelona (or AMD's fab process) isn't made for blistering speed. This may change though, if AMD gets a new silicon revision but that'll take a while to hit the retail channel.

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]Just over clock em its not that hard :DWesker776

You can't if the chips aren't able to go further than that.

The fact that AMD is struggling to make faster binned computers is a sign that Barcelona (or AMD's fab process) isn't made for blistering speed. This may change though, if AMD gets a new silicon revision but that'll take a while to hit the retail channel.

It's not that simple now.

Core 2 isn't an inefficient, low IPC count microarchitecture. It's fast, efficient and very scalable.

[QUOTE="Wesker776"]

Those two processors are practically on equal footing with one another. However, the E6600 runs cooler and can be overclocked A LOT further than the 6000+.

Have you thought about waiting until July 22nd for a $266 Q6600?

weggles

Your post was really helpful, and what I really wanted to know :D.

Will this Q6600 be that much better that it is worth the wait, and the extra money?

well unless you want to future proff it for the next 5 years there isn't much point, there is no current game than can even take full advantage of 2 core let alone 4

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]If you can wait real quads are coming out in a few months. The C2Quads are not native.Wesker776

Oh gawd. -_-

Seeing as K10 won't hit desktops until 2008, I don't see why he shouldn't go with the Q6600. Also, K10 will launch with a top speed of 2GHz.

Intel's quad is here, now, with benchmarks and it destorys all other CPUs in multithreaded apps. Native or not, it does what a quad core is supposed to do.

but games aren't exctly very good at multithreading so why waste money on the cpu that would go better into the gpu?

Have you thought about waiting until July 22nd for a $266 Q6600? Wesker776

if you plan on overclocking get the e6600. if not then get whichever one you prefer. its that simple.

[QUOTE="Wesker776"]

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]If you can wait real quads are coming out in a few months. The C2Quads are not native.imprezawrx500

Oh gawd. -_-

Seeing as K10 won't hit desktops until 2008, I don't see why he shouldn't go with the Q6600. Also, K10 will launch with a top speed of 2GHz.

Intel's quad is here, now, with benchmarks and it destorys all other CPUs in multithreaded apps. Native or not, it does what a quad core is supposed to do.

but games aren't exctly very good at multithreading so why waste money on the cpu that would go better into the gpu?

Who said that games aren't good for multithreading? They're perfect for multithreading. It's just that developers are only starting to multithread their games now.

Again, I point to Supreme Commander for multithreaded gaming (I'll try and find a benchmark).

[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="LouieV13"][QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="blazethe1"]personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+LouieV13

OMGOMGOMGMOG !!1 Holy mother of *** x24400+? that runs on 43.4 ghz on dual core :o !!!1SHIFT!!

:o People from the future invading PC Hardware Discussion ? OMG LEIK IM IN THE PAST OR WAT? :(

[QUOTE="blazethe1"]personally id go with the amd. amd focuses on gaming usually. i like my x24400+wklzip

OMGOMGOMGMOG !!1 Holy mother of *** x24400+? that runs on 43.4 ghz on dual core :o !!!1SHIFT!!

no no, you read it wrong. its an X244 @ 00....

its more like a really big box of rocks

[QUOTE="weggles"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

Those two processors are practically on equal footing with one another. However, the E6600 runs cooler and can be overclocked A LOT further than the 6000+.

Have you thought about waiting until July 22nd for a $266 Q6600?

imprezawrx500

Your post was really helpful, and what I really wanted to know :D.

Will this Q6600 be that much better that it is worth the wait, and the extra money?

well unless you want to future proff it for the next 5 years there isn't much point, there is no current game than can even take full advantage of 2 core let alone 4

Well, I'm hoping for this PC to last me a while... maybe add a bit more memory in a few years, but not build a new pc every year.