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#1 Johnny-Quest
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I have about 600$ to spend and would like to build a decent computer that will last me awhile and will play todays games. Any Help?
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Are those United States Dollars, Canadian Dollars, Australian Dollars, Communist Dollars?
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#3 whitechocolate_
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Disney dollars?
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#4 marcthpro
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look he as liverppol ftooball kodex and i got some friend in uk he must be from uk or near liverpool to support liverpoo football club as dp.
so if it 600 pound. i can make you a pc that decent. a little. more decent. id wait for nehalem in uk. in november.
or spend 800 pound. (if it all hardware require / power suply / tower / cooling / cpu / mobo / ram / video card / OS / hard Drive
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#5 Johnny-Quest
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I'm from us so this is us $. Here is what I have so far.

DVD


RAM

Mother Board

Tower

PSU

Video Card

Any thing im missing? Or cut down?

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#6 marcthpro
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hmm ur the first us i see with liverppol football club :P Logo Oh well (^^)
in usa you can't get anything decent under 900$ to be honest

and you need a hard Drive if you can't use ur current IDE with OS Window XP
and you forgot cpu motherboard can't run without cpu O.o
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#7 Johnny-Quest
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hmm ur the first us i see with liverppol football club :P Logo Oh well (^^)
in usa you can't get anything decent under 900$ to be honest
marcthpro

Look at my selections

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#8 westvufootball
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try this case

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1215768&Sku=ULT31824

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#9 Johnny-Quest
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try this case

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1215768&Sku=ULT31824

westvufootball

I bundled the psu and the case together saving money

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#10 marcthpro
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yeah if you overclock i agree with the one who a joker worker :) westvufootball ! Lol
the case much better how ever he get a combo for psu so the psu become 50$ instead of 89.99$ worthing more.
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#11 Johnny-Quest
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How about this motherboard? I can bundle this with vista and get every thing for around 550$
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#12 westvufootball
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hey! marcthpro. i like that case! dont make fun of me...
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#13 Simsfreak14
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$600 isn't enough to make a good enough gaming pc.
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#14 Johnny-Quest
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$600 isn't enough to make a good enough gaming pc.Simsfreak14

Don't just say that tell me what is wrong with my set up.

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#15 Angry_Bosmer
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Let's try PCGamer's Hardware advisor:

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 5000 71$ (Sould go for something a little faster)

Generic Case and 450W PSU: 135$

Mobo: ASUS M2N-MX 58$

RAM: Corsair 2GB DDR2-800 58$

HD: WD 250GB CAVIAR 7,200RMP 35$

GPU: Geforce 8600GT 83$ (holly crap they still recomend a 8600GT, that's crap get a 9800GTX, they go for 170$)

Total: 460$ (547$ with the GTX)

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#16 Johnny-Quest
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Let's try PCGamer's Hardware advisor:

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 5000 71$ (Sould go for something a little faster)

Generic Case and 450W PSU: 135$

Mobo: ASUS M2N-MX 58$

RAM: Corsair 2GB DDR2-800 58$

HD: WD 250GB CAVIAR 7,200RMP 35$

GPU: Geforce 8600GT 83$ (holly crap they still recomend a 8600GT, that's crap get a 9800GTX, they go for 170$)

Total: 460$ (547$ with the GTX)

Angry_Bosmer

What would you recomend for the cpu?

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#17 Angry_Bosmer
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[QUOTE="Angry_Bosmer"]

Let's try PCGamer's Hardware advisor:

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 5000 71$ (Sould go for something a little faster)

Generic Case and 450W PSU: 135$

Mobo: ASUS M2N-MX 58$

RAM: Corsair 2GB DDR2-800 58$

HD: WD 250GB CAVIAR 7,200RMP 35$

GPU: Geforce 8600GT 83$ (holly crap they still recomend a 8600GT, that's crap get a 9800GTX, they go for 170$)

Total: 460$ (547$ with the GTX)

Johnny-Quest

What would you recomend for the cpu?

The 3.4GHz one, witch will equal a 2.5Ghz Core 2 Duo.

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#18 marcthpro
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i was not makign fun of you just of your display picutre lol westvu :P
and angry bosomer you mean 2.3 Ghz intel ;) even overlcock it would not get near 2.5ghz
the cpu of amd you say and a overlcock fo any intel core 2 duo is done easly over 400mhz + which increase by anotehr 5-15fps
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
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#19 Johnny-Quest
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This is my first attempt of trying to build a computer from the ground up and I'm a little over my head. Any more help would be much appreciated
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#20 Angry_Bosmer
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This CPU is fine.

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#21 matrixian
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Keep the HD4850, it's faster and cheaper than the 9800GTX. Don't know why that angry_dude recommended that card.
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#22 Johnny-Quest
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Ok I think I got it down. Please look and comment.

DVD

Motherboard

Videocard

RAM

CPU

Tower

PSU

HD

For a grand total of 650$. Can any one comment please? I would love you dudes forever if you helped me because I am way over my head.

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#23 marcthpro
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This CPU is fine.

Angry_Bosmer

he is american wake up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
that is 40% stronger then Any AMD athelon as long it not phenom 9850 BE
then you just overlock it to 3.6GHZ and kick in the nuts Phenom 9850 BE the best amd cpu
if you want someting htat last long go for intel you fool
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#24 wklzip
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Ok I think I got it down. Please look and comment.

DVD

Motherboard

Videocard

RAM

CPU

Tower

PSU

HD

For a grand total of 650$. Can any one comment please? I would love you dudes forever if you helped me because I am way over my head.

Johnny-Quest

That is actually a good rig... except for the motherboard.

It definetly change it for something different.

Later you can use some hybrid crossfire to gain more performance. :)

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#25 wklzip
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[QUOTE="Angry_Bosmer"]

This CPU is fine.

marcthpro


he is american wake up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
that is 40% stronger then Any AMD athelon as long it not phenom 9850 BE
then you just overlock it to 3.6GHZ and kick in the nuts Phenom 9850 BE the best amd cpu
if you want someting htat last long go for intel you fool

:lol:
Dont treat him like that, he doesnt deserve it :P

Anyway, i think its too expensive for the budget, if he wants Intel definetly E7200 its also a amazing overclocker too! :)

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#26 marcthpro
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is my friend ? a bit it normal i treat him like that ;)
Where from same province of canada lol
well i just recommend that American if he want something that last Long enough to get at last 8400E that my point of view but even a E7200 is Far Better then amd. it worth the extra money if he dont' think to upgrade boefre 2009 End or someting like that lol the cpu
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#28 Johnny-Quest
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Is it that hard to build a computer? I have no experience building.
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#29 marcthpro
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nah it not hard. so what build your getting ? the one posted previous or going intel ?
need benchmark to know cpu power ? and if you miss lack you can go to some random pc store that as a shop they should know how to assemble comptuer they may charge you few bucks. but alot of user are able to build there pc
as long you follow guide the most stressfull part is only putting cpu & motherboard together and it quite easy
if you want to increase durabiltiy of your componoent and cooling effifancy use ARtic Sivler 5 Thermal Gease For only 5$ small tube to 11$ long tube for extra In case. il show you the website how ever that show how to build pc.
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13671/1
there other simialr ythat show step to step . it just give you a idea. a woman does that first time i see a girl build it her self in a guide lol and saying all step with text like carefull to have not straching nails if your a girl lol
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#30 Johnny-Quest
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nah it not hard. so what build your getting ? the one posted previous or going intel ?
need benchmark to know cpu power ? and if you miss lack you can go to some random pc store that as a shop they should know how to assemble comptuer they may charge you few bucks. but alot of user are able to build there pc
as long you follow guide the most stressfull part is only putting cpu & motherboard together and it quite easy
if you want to increase durabiltiy of your componoent and cooling effifancy use ARtic Sivler 5 Thermal Gease For only 5$ small tube to 11$ long tube for extra In case. il show you the website how ever that show how to build pc.
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13671/1
there other simialr ythat show step to step . it just give you a idea. a woman did that XD So you should be able ;)marcthpro

I think im going with the amd because I'm already over budget. Also, sorry if this is a noob question but do I need a internet card or anything?

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#31 marcthpro
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no motherboard come with it wish you some goodluck with the lagspike in 2009 game. may the luck and ur will power resit the lag in the future game ;) with amd set.
me as long it lag too much i get kinda mad :P
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[QUOTE="marcthpro"]nah it not hard. so what build your getting ? the one posted previous or going intel ?
need benchmark to know cpu power ? and if you miss lack you can go to some random pc store that as a shop they should know how to assemble comptuer they may charge you few bucks. but alot of user are able to build there pc
as long you follow guide the most stressfull part is only putting cpu & motherboard together and it quite easy
if you want to increase durabiltiy of your componoent and cooling effifancy use ARtic Sivler 5 Thermal Gease For only 5$ small tube to 11$ long tube for extra In case. il show you the website how ever that show how to build pc.
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13671/1
there other simialr ythat show step to step . it just give you a idea. a woman did that XD So you should be able ;)Johnny-Quest

I think im going with the amd because I'm already over budget. Also, sorry if this is a noob question but do I need a internet card or anything?

Not if you are connected an ethernet cable directly to your PC. There will be a port for that on the motherboard.

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#33 Johnny-Quest
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Also does any one see any way to cut down the price at all?
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#34 marcthpro
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only if you can use ur old hag ide wich i would not recommand harvest money or someting. i bet you can do it ;)
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#35 WDT-BlackKat
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This CPU is fine.

Angry_Bosmer

Not at that price it's not. For that kind of money (even fake Canadian money) you can get an E8400.

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#36 WDT-BlackKat
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only if you can use ur old hag ide wich i would not recommand harvest money or someting. i bet you can do it ;)marcthpro

Sell your organs. $$$$$?

Also does any one see any way to cut down the price at all?Johnny-Quest

Instead of trying to gimp yourself with substandard parts you should be asking yourself "How do I get more money?"

And anyhow... if you're shopping at newegg.com or it's ilk you don't need all the money at the same time. Buy a processor today, a graphics card in a few weeks when you've gotten another paycheck, etc. etc. This way even someone on welfare, let alone a healthy young lad like yourself, can afford a top of the line machine.

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#37 Johnny-Quest
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[QUOTE="marcthpro"]only if you can use ur old hag ide wich i would not recommand harvest money or someting. i bet you can do it ;)WDT-BlackKat

Sell your organs. $$$$$?

Also does any one see any way to cut down the price at all?Johnny-Quest

Instead of trying to gimp yourself with substandard parts you should be asking yourself "How do I get more money?"

And anyhow... if you're shopping at newegg.com or it's ilk you don't need all the money at the same time. Buy a processor today, a graphics card in a few weeks when you've gotten another paycheck, etc. etc. This way even someone on welfare, let alone a healthy young lad like yourself, can afford a top of the line machine.

I'm just in a tight spot because I need a computer for college and this one that I originally bought for college is breaking down (never buying a dell again). I have about 600 saved up after tuition so this is the reason why I need to limit my self

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#38 bedram793
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Do you have a monitor, speaker, OS? If you do, your selections look fine.
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I'm from us so this is us $. Here is what I have so far.

DVD


RAM

Mother Board

Tower

PSU

Video Card

Any thing im missing? Or cut down?

Johnny-Quest

well you need a hard drive and cpu. get a e8400 and your all set for anything new game will throw at you and the 500gb hdds are the current sweet spot

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#40 WDT-BlackKat
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[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

I'm from us so this is us $. Here is what I have so far.

DVD


RAM

Mother Board

Tower

PSU

Video Card

Any thing im missing? Or cut down?

imprezawrx500

well you need a hard drive and cpu. get a e8400 and your all set for anything new game will throw at you and the 500gb hdds are the current sweet spot

Additionally note the the Antec 300 ships with 3 too few fans. So you'll need to pick up 3 120mm fans for those slots. It only comes with one on the back, and the 140mm on the top. The front fant ports are empty, as is the side panel.

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#41 Angry_Bosmer
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Keep the HD4850, it's faster and cheaper than the 9800GTX. Don't know why that angry_dude recommended that card.matrixian

The 'angry_dude' recomended it because the performance difference is so minor that well...

Anyway 180$ is cheaper than the ATI, don't you think?

And Nvidia is more reliable than ATI (I know).

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#42 Angry_Bosmer
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[QUOTE="Angry_Bosmer"]

This CPU is fine.

marcthpro


he is american wake up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
that is 40% stronger then Any AMD athelon as long it not phenom 9850 BE
then you just overlock it to 3.6GHZ and kick in the nuts Phenom 9850 BE the best amd cpu
if you want someting htat last long go for intel you fool

It gives him a idea, christ he can shop around himself.

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#43 X360PS3AMD05
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Cheaper mobo, modular PSU ;)
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#44 musclesforcier
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$600 isn't enough to make a good enough gaming pc.Simsfreak14

Oh really, then how can I play all my games on high settings with a computer I bought last march for 600. Prices are even lower now. 600 for a tower is plenty for a good budget build.

Now if you need things like monitor, speakers, OS, keyboard, mouse, then 600 is not enough.

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#45 matrixian
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[QUOTE="matrixian"]Keep the HD4850, it's faster and cheaper than the 9800GTX. Don't know why that angry_dude recommended that card.Angry_Bosmer

Anyway 180$ is cheaper than the ATI, don't you think?

And Nvidia is more reliable than ATI (I know).

The TC had links to newegg, and you link him to tigerdirect.ca... Reading problems ?

The HD4850 is 155$ after MIR. angry_dude's math skills = FAIL.

HD4850 > 9800GTX (I know)

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#46 Johnny-Quest
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Ok I did some trimming. What about this build?

Tower

HD

Video Card

RAM

CPU

mobo

Plus vista, dvd burner and shipping it comes out to 579. Does this look good?

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#48 marcthpro
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look realy good for world of warcraft or unreal touramrnet 2004 imo
45 fps 1280x1024 Supreme coammder in theory with ur cpu. & HD4850 who is about only up to 65% max Better then 8800GTX
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-6.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/intel-wolfdale/crysys.png
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[QUOTE="matrixian"]Keep the HD4850, it's faster and cheaper than the 9800GTX. Don't know why that angry_dude recommended that card.Angry_Bosmer

The 'angry_dude' recomended it because the performance difference is so minor that well...

Anyway 180$ is cheaper than the ATI, don't you think?

And Nvidia is more reliable than ATI (I know).

the 4850 is faster then the 9800 gtx and consumes less power and can be had for like 150$ on new egg.

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#50 nish2280
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well what u can do is upgrade ur computer now and when u have about 900 bucks u can buy a brand new one