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#1 leeb127
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OK so I purchased a new PC. Here are the specs:

Core i7 920 1366 Socket

MSI X58 Pro-E MoBo

6 GB G-skill ram (ran memtest about 12 times)

Powersupply is 650 watt (had it checked and running good numbers)

Ati Radeon HD 5850 XFX 1GB

1.5 TB Sata HDD

Im running Windows XP 32-Bit for now.

Ive installed windows for the second time now, hoping it was a bad install but it is not.

The computer is bogging(very slow) for simple operation tasks, like clicking ok and then waiting 5 seconds for it to close a window, trying to do

simple things like open a browser window may be delayed for about 5-10 seconds. I am trying MSI live update online for latest drivers, but it freezes up everytime it gets to the searchmainboard driver version. Do you all think this is a driver issue? Im having horrible luck, I am downloading service pack 2 right now, hoping that the windows updates will help, but its been on "perform cleanup" for about 15 minutes now...

SOS please help.

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#2 Marfoo
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Make sure you have some kind of chipset drivers installed. Go to "Device Manager" and check what doesn't have drivers installed. Use the setup disk that came with your motherboard. If that doesn't work, troubleshoot your memory, make sure it's running the right speed, voltages, and latencies. If that doesn't work try running MEMTEST+, maybe you have a faulty module.
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#3 leeb127
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In system/Device manager it reads:

Other Devices...

! SM BUS Controller

! System Interrupt Controller

! System Interrupt Controller

! System Interrupt Controller

! System Interrupt Controller

! Video Controller (VGA Controller)

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#4 leeb127
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OK, now that I have installed the Chip drivers off the disk that came with the Mobo, it is still a bit sluggish. Do you think the video card drivers will make this puppy roar? It is still a bit sluggish with little things like opening windows and such, I hope the video card drivers fix this. If not, what do you think the problem would be?

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#5 ravenguard90
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Here, download these drivers, and install them one by one. You may have to restart a few times. After that, go to this site and download the file under 'Option 1' to get everything you need for your video card. After installing those, everything should run better.

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#6 Wildedge93
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its drivers, when u dont install drivers espeically in XP it lags like a muf but when u install ALL ur drivers as in no more !!! in ur devices mangers with yellow circles ur computer will run great. i no becuase the same thing happened to me when i installed xp but i instead moved on to w7.

Edit: why do u have 32 bit? thats not gonna read all ur ram u have, get 64 bit one

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#7 cluclap
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its drivers, when u dont install drivers espeically in XP it lags like a muf but when u install ALL ur drivers as in no more !!! in ur devices mangers with yellow circles ur computer will run great. i no becuase the same thing happened to me when i installed xp but i instead moved on to w7.

Edit: why do u have 32 bit? thats not gonna read all ur ram u have, get 64 bit one

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^^ 32-Bit limitation. 64-bit will give better performance.
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#8 leeb127
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I noticed that when it does lag/bog down that when I goto windows task manager and under the performance tab in cpu usage history that it spikes high, is this also releated to the drivers? please say yes. I will install all the new ones now. Was looking forward to using my machine tonight for some gaming :(

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#9 cluclap
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I noticed that when it does lag/bog down that when I goto windows task manager and under the performance tab in cpu usage history that it spikes high, is this also releated to the drivers? please say yes. I will install all the new ones now. Was looking forward to using my machine tonight for some gaming :(

leeb127
Just go and get 64-Bit Windows 7. That should have been bought when you were building your rig honestly lol. But yeah, the problem is probably just your OS. XP came out BEFORE your system components did, so it might not handle it as well as an up-to-date OS will.
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#10 leeb127
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Installed all the drivers from the site, the problem is still there. I will go and buy Windows 7 64-bit OEM tomorrow. Hopefully this is the problem, do you think this is 100 % the problem?

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#11 cluclap
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Installed all the drivers from the site, the problem is still there. I will go and buy Windows 7 64-bit OEM tomorrow. Hopefully this is the problem, do you think this is 100 % the problem?

leeb127
Not 100% sure, but this is definitely a big issue that you do not have it, considering that XP doesn't even support over 3 GIGs of RAM, so under 32-Bit OS, your extra 3 GIGS of RAM is just useless. The Video Card is not getting the benefit of DX 10, 10.1, or 11 with advanced hardware tessellation, simply because XP does not support it regardless of 32-bit. And your CPU is HIGHLY restricted under 32-bit seeing as if it is a 64-bit processor. So yeah, even if the Windows 7 upgrade doesn't work (which it should) you could not have played games very well under that OS regardless.
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[QUOTE="leeb127"]

Installed all the drivers from the site, the problem is still there. I will go and buy Windows 7 64-bit OEM tomorrow. Hopefully this is the problem, do you think this is 100 % the problem?

cluclap

Not 100% sure, but this is definitely a big issue that you do not have it, considering that XP doesn't even support over 3 GIGs of RAM, so under 32-Bit OS, your extra 3 GIGS of RAM is just useless. The Video Card is not getting the benefit of DX 10, 10.1, or 11 with advanced hardware tessellation, simply because XP does not support it regardless of 32-bit. And your CPU is HIGHLY restricted under 32-bit seeing as if it is a 64-bit processor. So yeah, even if the Windows 7 upgrade doesn't work (which it should) you could not have played games very well under that OS regardless.

32bit OS is limited to being able to utilize 4GB, not 3.

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#13 cluclap
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="leeb127"]

Installed all the drivers from the site, the problem is still there. I will go and buy Windows 7 64-bit OEM tomorrow. Hopefully this is the problem, do you think this is 100 % the problem?

neatfeatguy

Not 100% sure, but this is definitely a big issue that you do not have it, considering that XP doesn't even support over 3 GIGs of RAM, so under 32-Bit OS, your extra 3 GIGS of RAM is just useless. The Video Card is not getting the benefit of DX 10, 10.1, or 11 with advanced hardware tessellation, simply because XP does not support it regardless of 32-bit. And your CPU is HIGHLY restricted under 32-bit seeing as if it is a 64-bit processor. So yeah, even if the Windows 7 upgrade doesn't work (which it should) you could not have played games very well under that OS regardless.

32bit OS is limited to being able to utilize 4GB, not 3.

Forgive me, but he still shouldn't have 32-Bit with that kind of rig. It seems like a no-brainer.
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I would suggest download CPU-Z, CPUID HW Monitor, and Prime95, TC. After, check CPU-Z to see what your speed is set at, load HW Monitor to see the temperatures of your CPU at idle, and then run a Prime95 Small FFT test while checking your temperatures. Report back here when you find out your results.

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#15 GhoX
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Have you installed the driver for your graphics card? You can find the driver for it on ati.com.
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#16 leeb127
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So I installed Windows Vista, all drivers are updated. I did a performance run and it says CPU at 100% Capacity, low system resources, investigate. Since it is a fresh install on a new system, im not sure if its a crappy processor or not...any help would be appreciated. The computer runs fine for a short periods of time and then it spikes upto 90-100 % CPU usage...

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#17 GhoX
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Wait a minute, did the CPU fan spin really loudly as well? If so, did you build the computer yourself or was it pre-built? It's also possible that the thermal paste connecting the CPU heatsink and your CPU is not applied properly, albeit not bad enough to burn the CPU off.
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#18 leeb127
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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1047100

Temperature of all cores are min 163 F to 174 F

Not sure how to post it all, does this help?

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#19 GhoX
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Holy **** Your CPU is THAT hot?! It's definitely a heatsink, fan, thermal paste problem. You'd want to turn off your computer now, open it up and check the CPU, or if you do not have much experience with that get it to a proper computer shop!

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#20 IvanElk
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Ya man your processor is running really really really really really really really hot. It shouldn't get above 65 degrees celcius on full load
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#21 Marfoo
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Yeah, that's way too hot for a CPU. It's probably drastically dropping clocks and voltage under load to keep from frying itself. That would explain the drops in performance. The heatsink is probably set improperly.
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#22 leeb127
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Ok, thanks guys. I am on my old system as of now, I am taking it in today to the pc shop where I bought it (PC Cyber) and telling them to take it back and going elsewhere, first thing I did when I came home, first trip, the ram was set it the wrong slots, brought it back and yesterday and they set the ram in the right slots. Bring it home, the video card in it dies (my old 8800 GTS *I was gonna use this until the new fermi chips came out*, so I splurged and bought a HD 5850) I come home last night installing windows took forever, I get on install all drivers and the damn thing kept lagging because of the CPU temps! Oh, and my 8800 GTS works fine in the system I am using here. I am tired of this computer shop. I am done. I will be purchasing elsewhere! I wil let you all know how it goes.

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PC Cyber, huh? Check your inbox; I have a proposition for you.