Help with Game Programming and Web design

I plan on spending a lot of time this summer before fall semester brushing up on video game programming, so what I need are some suggestions for books to buy.  Also I want to get into Web design and need some suggestions there too. 

 I went to the local books-a-million and saw these books

But i read that these are for those that are just beginning programming.  As for me I have taken a few Java clases at my university, but not C or C++.  But that cant be much different.  Are their any other books or websites I can look into???

Also one more thing and its about web design.  I want to do this as a hobby and eventually make a little side money doing it.  I dont really want to use the HTML editors and would rather program web sites, so websites or books can help me in that? 

You can try C++ or C#, whichever you want. They're both hard to learn and master but you already know Java so that's a step.

HTML editors like Dreamweaver make everything easier for you. When you're building websites, you have to do a lot of repetitive stuff, Dreamweaver helps with that. You can also mix your HTML with PHP, CSS, or Coldfusion using Dreamweaver

If you don't want to use an editor you can just use Notepad I guess but you will get tired of it eventually.

You can then increase your web building skills by learning Perl and MySQL . 

You can try C++ or C#, whichever you want. They're both hard to learn and master but you already know Java so that's a step.

 

HTML editors like Dreamweaver make everything easier for you. When you're building websites, you have to do a lot of repetitive stuff, Dreamweaver helps with that. You can also mix your HTML with PHP, CSS, or Coldfusion using Dreamweaver

If you don't want to use an editor you can just use Notepad I guess but you will get tired of it eventually.

 

You can then increase your web building skills by learning Perl and MySQL .

DeeJayInphinity

Real men use Notepad!! Haaaooohh!!! (300 ref) 

Notepad sucks for programming. You'll find out when you actually try an application with syntax highlighting, line numbering etc. Makes your job 10 times easier. Oh, and I use EditPlus 2.BounceDK

I'm just playing obviously, redundant work isn't its forte, which you can see in alot of web pages. 

Good site if you do OpenGl stuff

http://nehe.gamedev.net/

You can download Visual C++ Express

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/.

For Web Programming I'd try php it's pretty easy and try MySQL for that database end.

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]Notepad sucks for programming. You'll find out when you actually try an application with syntax highlighting, line numbering etc. Makes your job 10 times easier. Oh, and I use EditPlus 2.jfelisario

I'm just playing obviously, redundant work isn't its forte, which you can see in alot of web pages.

Thanks guys, so should I just stick with a basic C++ book (im going to go with that since it's used more) then going with one of those game programming books?  I think it will be the same anyway since its all in one.

Real men use Notepad!! Haaaooohh!!! (300 ref) jfelisario

Real men use vi and emacs. 

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]Notepad sucks for programming. You'll find out when you actually try an application with syntax highlighting, line numbering etc. Makes your job 10 times easier. Oh, and I use EditPlus 2.-GeordiLaForge-

Are you serious? I'm guessing you haven't worked on websites that have dozens of documents and pages linked together. Try deleting a document that you don't need anymore using notepad. With Dreamweaver, it takes a second and any link to that document is immediately removed, eliminating the dreaded "dead link" epidemic. Oh and Templates. MMM Templates. Updating every single page in your directory with the click of a button.

Saying that Notepad is better than Dreamweaver is just ridiculous. I'm sure you're just joking, though. 

A little off the topic,Sorry.For a total greenhorn what would be a good programming language to learn?Also how can you use notepad to write programs?Please teach.

A little off the topic,Sorry.For a total greenhorn what would be a good programming language to learn?Also how can you use notepad to write programs?Please teach.

jongaska

Well my university is teaching us Java first then c++ but i want to get a little headstart on c++ with some at home game programming.

A little off the topic,Sorry.For a total greenhorn what would be a good programming language to learn?Also how can you use notepad to write programs?Please teach.

jongaska

For beginners, Python or C++.

Use notepad? Usually here is how you do a program:

You write the source code of the program in a text file.

You compile what's in your text file with a compilator and it gives you a binairy executable.

So since your source code is a text file, you can use any text editor to produce it, include notepad. 

However, notepad is not a very good editor. For programming, it is useful to use a text editor that highlights the syntax for you and automatically shows you some errors you made. For example, I like to program using a text editor called 'vim', that you can install on linux or windows (using Cygwin).

I took a web course and the instructor (who runs a web business) said that if you're going to do web work you need a program like Dreamweaver.  It takes all the drudgery out of it.  Nothing like looking at a screenful of plain, unhighlighted text to turn a minor project into heavy duty work.  You needn't worry that Dreamweaver will do all the work for you.  You'll probably still need to go in and tweak code by hand.

As for languages to learn....well there's a huge alphabet soup of crap.  Java you already know.  HTML is a must, but it's easy.  You should also get a book on good web design as it's practically an art form.  I guess it mostly depends on your project and where you plan to host it.  I've seen some pretty awesome Flash stuff at www.newgrounds.com (game, movies).

As for game programming, I think C++ is the industry standard.  That's what I've read anyway. 

A little off the topic,Sorry.For a total greenhorn what would be a good programming language to learn?Also how can you use notepad to write programs?Please teach.

jongaska

Two ways you could use notepad:

1) For non-web work, you could use notepad to write the program, in a text file.  Then a compiler converts that program into executable code.  I don't think many do it this way anymore.  A nice UI that combines a compile feature is the way to go.  The UI highlights keywords and hopefully also has an interactive debugger.

2) For web work, the browser can run the program directly if it is one of the non-compiled languages (HTML, Javascript).  There are also compiled web languages (Flash, Java).  As with (1) you could do it in notepad but that's not the preferred route.

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="BounceDK"]Notepad sucks for programming. You'll find out when you actually try an application with syntax highlighting, line numbering etc. Makes your job 10 times easier. Oh, and I use EditPlus 2.DeeJayInphinity

Are you serious? I'm guessing you haven't worked on websites that have dozens of documents and pages linked together. Try deleting a document that you don't need anymore using notepad. With Dreamweaver, it takes a second and any link to that document is immediately removed, eliminating the dreaded "dead link" epidemic. Oh and Templates. MMM Templates. Updating every single page in your directory with the click of a button.

Saying that Notepad is better than Dreamweaver is just ridiculous. I'm sure you're just joking, though.

Heh, notepad for programming eh? Nah I'll keep my eclipse and Visual Studio .NET. I can't live without code completion and class view drop-down lists.  

Get good with 3ds, and Zmodler. Trust me master these and you can do anything.Travis_Odell

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"]Get good with 3ds, and Zmodler. Trust me master these and you can do anything.JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Travis_Odell"]Get good with 3ds, and Zmodler. Trust me master these and you can do anything.Travis_Odell

and yes I know how to 3d model in blender, what does the modelling process have to do with programming?

I am not talking about texturing implementations or how anything is being rendered

just because you have an interest in programming doesn't necessarily mean you have an interest in art or vice versa

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] what does that have to do with programming tho?JigglyWiggly_

and yes I know how to 3d model in blender, what does the modelling process have to do with programming?

I am not talking about texturing implementations or how anything is being rendered

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"] Hmm programing, an modeling.. Have you seen a good programer not no jack shit about modeling? It should go hand in hand. Don't scratch your head, it's ok.Travis_Odell

and yes I know how to 3d model in blender, what does the modelling process have to do with programming?

I am not talking about texturing implementations or how anything is being rendered

I don't know why you are assuming anything like that?

I've only made one model, and I guess it looks okay, it's rigged too, w/ shape keys.

1, 2, 3

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]yes i am sure john carmack does 3d modelling all the time in his spare time

and yes I know how to 3d model in blender, what does the modelling process have to do with programming?

I am not talking about texturing implementations or how anything is being rendered

JigglyWiggly_

I don't know why you are assuming anything like that?

I've only made one model, and I guess it looks okay, it's rigged too, w/ shape keys.

1, 2, 3

Zubin(who used to post here) is only interested in theroitical mathmatics and mouseaim really. Some of my friends who I took a mips assembly course with last semseter only like programming.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"] I dipped my head in a bit of both tbh, you shed a bit in blender cool, but i don't think you could comprehend much more then that.Travis_Odell

I don't know why you are assuming anything like that?

I've only made one model, and I guess it looks okay, it's rigged too, w/ shape keys.

1, 2, 3

Zubin(who used to post here) is only interested in theroitical mathmatics and mouseaim really. Some of my friends who I took a mips assembly course with last semseter only like programming.

tc 6 years ago asked about programming, not 3d modelling

anyway, this looked like the best bet http://www.amazon.com/dp/1592730051/?tag=stackoverfl08-20

first half is about 2d platformers

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

I don't know why you are assuming anything like that?

I've only made one model, and I guess it looks okay, it's rigged too, w/ shape keys.

1, 2, 3

 

Zubin(who used to post here) is only interested in theroitical mathmatics and mouseaim really. Some of my friends who I took a mips assembly course with last semseter only like programming.

JigglyWiggly_

tc 6 years ago asked about programming, not 3d modelling

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

I don't know why you are assuming anything like that?

I've only made one model, and I guess it looks okay, it's rigged too, w/ shape keys.

1, 2, 3

 

Zubin(who used to post here) is only interested in theroitical mathmatics and mouseaim really. Some of my friends who I took a mips assembly course with last semseter only like programming.

JigglyWiggly_

tc 6 years ago asked about programming, not 3d modelling

anyway, this looked like the best bet http://www.amazon.com/dp/1592730051/?tag=stackoverfl08-20

first half is about 2d platformers

It's hard damn it's hard!!!!

[QUOTE="jongaska"]

A little off the topic,Sorry.For a total greenhorn what would be a good programming language to learn?Also how can you use notepad to write programs?Please teach.

fynne

Two ways you could use notepad:

1) For non-web work, you could use notepad to write the program, in a text file.  Then a compiler converts that program into executable code.  I don't think many do it this way anymore.  A nice UI that combines a compile feature is the way to go.  The UI highlights keywords and hopefully also has an interactive debugger.

2) For web work, the browser can run the program directly if it is one of the non-compiled languages (HTML, Javascript).  There are also compiled web languages (Flash, Java).  As with (1) you could do it in notepad but that's not the preferred route.