Hideo Kojima Praises Battlefield 3

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#1 killzonexbox
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Famed Metal Gear Solid creator appears to be one of DICE's biggest fans thanks to Battlefield 3

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#2 dakan45
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He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:
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#3 mhofever
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Yea, I was hoping to see some firefights in a city :evil: but that montage of the Paris battle looked wicked.

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#4 killzonexbox
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He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:dakan45
Compare to MW3 yes..
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#5 ChiefFreeman
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He likes first person shooter games, and has talked about making one in the past, so its not a surprise. He appreciates games with good production values.

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#6 mrbojangles25
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He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:dakan45

pot calling kettle black :P

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#7 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:killzonexbox
Compare to MW3 yes..

Atleast mw3 had gameplay. IMO mw3 on E3 might have been weak but dice did not even try with battlefield, MW3 won easilly because of what dice show, more like of what they did not show.
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#8 killzonexbox
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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="dakan45"]He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:dakan45
Compare to MW3 yes..

Atleast mw3 had gameplay. IMO mw3 on E3 might have been weak but dice did not even try with battlefield, MW3 won easilly because of what dice show, more like of what they did not show.

Cant believed people pay 60 dollars for this quake 3 expansion..
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#9 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="killzonexbox"] Compare to MW3 yes..killzonexbox
Atleast mw3 had gameplay. IMO mw3 on E3 might have been weak but dice did not even try with battlefield, MW3 won easilly because of what dice show, more like of what they did not show.

Cant believed people pay 60 dollars for this quake 3 expansion..

"quake 3 expansion" :lol: :lol: Might wanna google up a couple of screenshots and gameplay for quake 3.

Infact you might wanna go back and take a look at jedi knight 2 a game that also uses quake 3 engine but looks and plays nothing like it. Just showing how engine =/= game

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#10 deactivated-5ee322a396e26
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He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:dakan45
its just a marketing ploy ..."I'm commander Kojima and i approve of this game" buy buy buy

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#11 GeneralShowzer
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Battlefield 3 is so cash. COD fanboys are jelly.
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#12 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:iwilson1296

its just a marketing ploy ..."I'm commander Kojima and i approve of this game" buy buy buy

Could be, although gamedevelopers are only business nowdays and they hide stuff and show us and tell us only what they want us to see. Yet we try to rationalize that fake hype :P
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Battlefield 3 is so cash. COD fanboys are jelly.

Naw, lack of corridor shooting is making them sad. Plus no "bro moments" that will end with a bro fist between them.
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#14 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Battlefield 3 is so cash. COD fanboys are jelly.

Naw, lack of corridor shooting is making them sad. Plus no "bro moments" that will end with a bro fist between them.

Why exactly we would be jelus? So far bf3 has not shown anything impressive apart from graphics. Besides i was just at youtube looking at bf3 mp footage. It has plenty of corridor shooting and you also die fast just like cod.
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#15 r4v3gl0ry
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Oh, the conversation's heating up. When's the falmin' gonna happen? :P Anyway...

I think the visuals and animations are great so far. Still not as much info as I'd like to see, but it's still awesome. I just hope they blend more of the old BFs into this one rather than Bad Company.

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#16 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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We get it, dakan45. You don't like BF3 and you heap lots of undeserved praise on MW3. If you don't like BF3 so much, why bother post in the BF3-related threads then? Especially since you know people will not agree with you.
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#17 deathshand707
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Someone always has to turn every BF3 thread into a damn versus thread. Cant we all just agree that bf3 looks to be a spectacular game, and that it has already received some praise.

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#19 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="dakan45"] Why exactly we would be jelus? So far bf3 has not shown anything impressive apart from graphics. Besides i was just at youtube looking at bf3 mp footage. It has plenty of corridor shooting and you also die fast just like cod.

You saw all of that from the stream`s videos? That is amazing.
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I'm looking forward to slicing and dicing watermelons, but I'm looking even more forward to leveling buildings to the ground. :twisted:
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#21 spiderman120988
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But can we EAT the watermelons? That is the question....
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But can we EAT the watermelons? That is the question....spiderman120988
:lol: To be or NOT to BE!
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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="dakan45"]He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:dakan45
Compare to MW3 yes..

Atleast mw3 had gameplay. IMO mw3 on E3 might have been weak but dice did not even try with battlefield, MW3 won easilly because of what dice show, more like of what they did not show.

They showed plenty - engine demonstration, multiplayer footage, single-player tank footage. And if it was so weak, why is everyone so blown away by what's been shown (even Hideo Kojima!). I think you need to wake up and get a clue.

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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Atleast mw3 had gameplay. IMO mw3 on E3 might have been weak but dice did not even try with battlefield, MW3 won easilly because of what dice show, more like of what they did not show.dakan45

Cant believed people pay 60 dollars for this quake 3 expansion..

"quake 3 expansion" :lol: :lol: Might wanna google up a couple of screenshots and gameplay for quake 3.

Infact you might wanna go back and take a look at jedi knight 2 a game that also uses quake 3 engine but looks and plays nothing like it. Just showing how engine =/= game

MW3 is the third iteration in the series, and it still looks like a glorified Call of Duty 2. You would expect some form of innovation between sequels, but nooo, IW has other ideas in mind.

Btw, did y'all notice that DICE was the only developer at the press conferences that demoed their game on a PC? Gotta love 'em.

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#26 s_emi_xxxxx
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He's trolling, he found the tank battle impressive? :lol: :lol:dakan45
man, what is wrong with people ? what would people have preferred to see in a "tank battle" demo of Battlefield 3 ? I think it was pretty impressive tbh, only disappointment is that it's the only demo DICE has shown at E3, wanted to see more of B3@E3.
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"] Cant believed people pay 60 dollars for this quake 3 expansion..ralph2190

"quake 3 expansion" :lol: :lol: Might wanna google up a couple of screenshots and gameplay for quake 3.

Infact you might wanna go back and take a look at jedi knight 2 a game that also uses quake 3 engine but looks and plays nothing like it. Just showing how engine =/= game

MW3 is the third iteration in the series, and it still looks like a glorified Call of Duty 2. You would expect some form of innovation between sequels, but nooo, IW has other ideas in mind.

Btw, did y'all notice that DICE was the only developer at the press conferences that demoed their game on a PC? Gotta love 'em.

I let out a big **** YEAH!" when I saw the DICE employee on the PC, ready to demo the game. DICE DOIN IT PROPER! HOLLAH!!

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#29 PTMags
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[QUOTE="ralph2190"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

"quake 3 expansion" :lol: :lol: Might wanna google up a couple of screenshots and gameplay for quake 3.

Infact you might wanna go back and take a look at jedi knight 2 a game that also uses quake 3 engine but looks and plays nothing like it. Just showing how engine =/= game

PC_Otter

MW3 is the third iteration in the series, and it still looks like a glorified Call of Duty 2. You would expect some form of innovation between sequels, but nooo, IW has other ideas in mind.

Btw, did y'all notice that DICE was the only developer at the press conferences that demoed their game on a PC? Gotta love 'em.

I let out a big **** YEAH!" when I saw the DICE employee on the PC, ready to demo the game. DICE DOIN IT PROPER! HOLLAH!!

Not everyone can be part of the master race.

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#31 therancors
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Meh, no buy for me if I can't spot an enemy boat on land.:P

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#32 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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The simple reason is that BF fans wanted to see some tank gameplay. Sure maybe not JUST tank gameplay but we still wanted to see it. Plus it sets up how single player works. Lots of combat chatter which was awesome. And his had terrific pacing. It wasn't boring. It doesn't have to be turned up to 11 at all times. They didn't show much because they didn't have to. If kojima is even impressed what does that tell you?

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#33 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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You guys should also read what he put up now. He changed it cos MW3 fanboys where whining

http://twitter.com/#!/hideo_kojima_en

"If "COD MW3" is a Hollywood-ish action play, "BF3" is more like documentary. While play-related rail games are the mainstream after the success of "COD" and "Uncharted", this stoic attitude is fresh"

Deal with it COD fans he speaks the truth

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#34 DraugenCP
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It's a bit said how EVERY BF3 thread soon transforms into an MW3 comparison thread. Massive minority complex, anyone?

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#35 GeneralShowzer
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It's a bit said how EVERY BF3 thread soon transforms into an MW3 comparison thread. Massive minority complex, anyone?

DraugenCP
I still can't believe someone would side with MW3 ON THE PC GAMES FORUM. :(
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Wow that's a hell of an endorsement.
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#37 DraugenCP
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[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

It's a bit said how EVERY BF3 thread soon transforms into an MW3 comparison thread. Massive minority complex, anyone?

GeneralShowzer

I still can't believe someone would side with MW3 ON THE PC GAMES FORUM. :(

Where exactly did I side with MW3?

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#38 xLittlekillx
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Haha, there's no way that people here are trying to defend modern warfare 3 over battlefield. I call shennanigans.

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[QUOTE="ocstew"]Don't worry about dakan, he hates everything PC gamers like and loves simplified rubbish for the masses. He should just throw away his rig and get a console at this rate. gunmaster55555
I'm so glad i'm not the only one who noticed. He's been like this for awhile and I don't understand why he posts in the pc section other then trolling. He's been doing it for a long time going by his post count, I'm surprised he hasn't got bored of doing it yet.

From what I can can remember Ive been here longer than him. He just takes the opposite side to whatever anyone likes. Hes like the ultimate PC gaming hipster.
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#40 John_Read
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it was teh boooring. Dice failed hard at E3 :lol: Dice should have shown something else
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#41 TruedUp
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Jeeze that dude is getting called out hard. Kojima talking about the game will definitely sway more people into buying the game. Good on him. Unless it ends up sucking. Which I doubt, but still. Lawl...
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#42 Inconsistancy
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it was teh boooring. Dice failed hard at E3 :lol: Dice should have shown something elseJohn_Read
They really did kinda.. muck it up. They shoulda showed off some destruction in mp from a few perspectives.

Also, i just thought of something! Rockets on the map 'Longest' from Halo CE in BF3, that's a great idea for a mod, omg. Pretty sure the map was named 'Longest'.. it was right? It's been a decade! The map with just a corridor and 2 lanes.

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#43 Lach0121
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I love how people are comparing 2 games, (that are not even out yet)

You are literally comparing hype to hype right now... Give it a rest, and just enjoy the games when they come out...

I hope they will both be great.. My only problem with them, is optmization, Look at Black Ops (it was a technical mess)

I am really hoping that MW3 does not suffer from the same... (really want it to do well, I would like a good Continuation of COD4-like mulitplayer on a game that can actually handle it and not buckle the framerate for no reason)

I also hope BF3 is optimized, (really needs to be for the graphics they are showing)

Optimization I look for more than graphics these days, yea sure it could look all nice and pretty, but if its a slideshow or unstable while doing it, It was a waste of time, money, energy, and resources.....

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#44 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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Actually we didn't really start comparing the games. dakan45 came into the thread and said that only MW3 has shown good gameplay footage. And that is how this whole fiasco started.
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#45 Lach0121
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Actually we didn't really start comparing the games. dakan45 came into the thread and said that only MW3 has shown good gameplay footage. And that is how this whole fiasco started.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

I don't mean just this thread... I see it these forums here all the time MW3 < BF3... or BF3 < MW3....

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#46 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

It's a bit said how EVERY BF3 thread soon transforms into an MW3 comparison thread. Massive minority complex, anyone?

DraugenCP

I still can't believe someone would side with MW3 ON THE PC GAMES FORUM. :(

Where exactly did I side with MW3?

Not you, though.
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#48 Renevent42
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I don't think MW3 will be a bad game or anything, but BF3 makes it look like kids play and totally out classes it on every level. It's not even close...
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#49 xLittlekillx
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I don't know what you apes are talking about. I thought the e3 bf3 gameplay was intense and gorgeous. Maybe you're just the kind of people who prefer jolly ranchers to steak dinners.

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#50 TruedUp
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By all means cod4, brought nothing to the series, the leveling system was not innovative, neither killstreaks in mw2, neither did black ops brought anything new. :roll: But bf2 with new graphics and destruction and is a whole new battlefield :roll: You serious? ofcourse its STILL looks identical to cod 2 :lol:

All this cod hate and bf3 praise is missplaced. You cant see the changes and praise the things that bf3 does not show you. Also have you seen uncharted 3 or resistance 3, hell take a look at a killzone 3. Thats how game sequels are nowdays. Infact thats how they were in the past, take a look at doom 2 and fallout 2, they look exactly like the first, so you people complain for nothing.

Also mw3 hate is crazy, i cant watch a video about an unrelated fps without seeing hate everywhere, time to fight back.

dakan45
CoD 4 was one of the best games of the series (mine personally was CoD 2 but whatever). Each game did something yes, but I believe all the hate comes from the fact that CoD has forsaken the PC gamer. The online does not work as well as it does with ded servers (MW2 showed this, it was terrible.) However, the CoD games since MW have not been all that revolutionary. They have used the same formula (not a bad thing either, its a fun game) and added on here and there. BF3 will be no different. What you gotta realize is that a lot of people dont care if its the reinvention of the FPS genre. They (we) want BF2 with frostbyte 2. I honestly dont even care about the single player. I didnt in BC2, and I wont for BF3. Big/new and classic maps, 64 players, planes, and slightly updated classes to match 2142 it seems. I love it, its exactly what I wanted, and Im sure many will agree. Should CoD be hated on as much as it is? No, probably not. But can you blame some PC gamers for having a vendetta against it? Hell, if you can, get both. I probably will if MW3 isnt terible (which I think the last few were because of camping, dumb perks, and the goddamn rc car, lol).