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#1 TreetarD93
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im arguing with someone about wether its true that xbox 360 runs in high def (720 or 1080p) without the HD DVD player. also, is there much of a difference between 720p and 1080p.
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#2 GodLovesDead
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You're right the HD-DVD player has nothing to do with 720p or 1080p other than it can run HD-DVD movies. But it's a paperweight now. And 1080p is superior to 720p by a bit so I'd stick to using that.
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1080p is obviously better than 720p theoretically but seriously its really hard to tell the difference

I've tried both and for the performance hit, I don't see a hair of difference between them

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#4 BobHipJames
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1080p is obviously better than 720p theoretically but seriously its really hard to tell the difference

I've tried both and for the performance hit, I don't see a hair of difference between them

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Let me be very clear.

1080p=1920x1080

720p=1280x720

Both are the dimensions of the picture measured in pixels which represent resolution. 1080p is higher resolution, but this puts greater strain on the hardware, causing the performance to be slightly worse for the tradeoff of better image clarity.

I'm going to be blunt: If you say that you found little or no difference between 1080p and 720p in terms of image quality, you are wrong in comparison to the sheer, hard facts. You can mathematically quantify the difference between the two resolutions...1080p has better image quality because it has more pixels. Period. Post script: A lot more pixels. Period.

Both the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 are capable of both 720p and 1080p resolutions. The Wii is only capable of up to 480p resolution. Both consoles have few games that display in 1080p. The Xbox 360 can upscale many games to 1080p, although this is just an upscaled image of the original 720p image, so you're basically getting the same image quality scaled to your TV. If your image is rendering in 1080p natively, however, the image quality will noticable improve. Games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue or HD display in 1080p natively on PS3. Games like Halo 3 do not display in 1080p. They upscale a 640p signal to 1080p.

You do not need the HD-DVD player to play games in either 720p or 1080p. However, you do need the HD-DVD player to play HD-DVD movies in 720p. DVD movies will only play in 480p or be upscaled to the resolution of your TV with no noticable image quality bonus.

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It's also worth noting that GT5 Prologue and HD as well as Ninja Gaiden Sigma both run at 60 frames in either 720p AND 1080p. There is no performance hit.

The performance hit is up to the developers to manage.

Again, 1080p>720p in terms of image quality.

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#6 skingus
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It's also worth noting that GT5 Prologue and HD as well as Ninja Gaiden Sigma both run at 60 frames in either 720p AND 1080p. There is no performance hit.

The performance hit is up to the developers to manage.

Again, 1080p>720p in terms of image quality.

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Maybe so, but not in a omg amazing type of way. 480p to 720p was alot more jaw dropping.

720p to 1080p is more of a "well I think I see it now" kind of difference.

When shopping for my hdtv last year I chose a 720p plasma over a 1080p lcd in a slightly smaller size, because the benefits of the plasma were still there and the slightly better resolution of the lcd didn't justify the price.

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#7 ObjectiveTruth
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1080p is obviously better than 720p theoretically but seriously its really hard to tell the difference

I've tried both and for the performance hit, I don't see a hair of difference between them

BobHipJames

Let me be very clear.

1080p=1920x1080

720p=1280x720

Both are the dimensions of the picture measured in pixels which represent resolution. 1080p is higher resolution, but this puts greater strain on the hardware, causing the performance to be slightly worse for the tradeoff of better image clarity.

I'm going to be blunt: If you say that you found little or no difference between 1080p and 720p in terms of image quality, you are wrong in comparison to the sheer, hard facts. You can mathematically quantify the difference between the two resolutions...1080p has better image quality because it has more pixels. Period. Post script: A lot more pixels. Period.

Both the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 are capable of both 720p and 1080p resolutions. The Wii is only capable of up to 480p resolution. Both consoles have few games that display in 1080p. The Xbox 360 can upscale many games to 1080p, although this is just an upscaled image of the original 720p image, so you're basically getting the same image quality scaled to your TV. If your image is rendering in 1080p natively, however, the image quality will noticable improve. Games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue or HD display in 1080p natively on PS3. Games like Halo 3 do not display in 1080p. They upscale a 640p signal to 1080p.

You do not need the HD-DVD player to play games in either 720p or 1080p. However, you do need the HD-DVD player to play HD-DVD movies in 720p. DVD movies will only play in 480p or be upscaled to the resolution of your TV with no noticable image quality bonus.

You're right, mathematically and theoretically 1080 is better than 720 obviously but if you put them side by side I notice little difference and i'm sure the average person won't see the difference either