How are AMD holding up these days?

I lost interest in hardware back in mid 08, but how are they doing these days?

I know their GPUs are doing well and their CPUs have been positioned quite well too

So how are they selling overall, any signs of recovery?

recovery from what?

AMD is able to release products that compete with Intel's mid-range, price/performance bracket, but cannot hope to compete with Intel's high end. (power consumption and manufacturing process are inferior as well).

ATI is able to compete with nVidia's high-end single-GPU solutions for now.

Overall, the outlook is not good for either, as they regularly post massive losses quarter after quarter.

Hopefully intel being hit with that billion dollar fine will let AMD catch up :P

AMD is able to release products that compete with Intel's mid-range, price/performance bracket, but cannot hope to compete with Intel's high end. (power consumption and manufacturing process are inferior as well).

ATI is able to compete with nVidia's high-end single-GPU solutions for now.

Overall, the outlook is not good for either, as they regularly post massive losses quarter after quarter.

Staryoshi87

Still waiting for a dual socket motherboard made for one CPU and one GPU. Each with their own RAM slots, and linked at hyperthreading speeds through the NB...-GeordiLaForge-

The phenom II CPUs are certainly great value for money. The 955 Black Edition beats every Intel except for the i7s, which cost way more. So for now, i'm with AMD.

Are they STILL basing their CPUs on K8?FirstDiscovery

I prefer amd and ati as they are usually decently priced compared to nvidia/intel. I wanted an i7 and just all the stuff you need to buy for the damn thing is insane.

Motherboard- at least 150

CPU- at least 220

Ram-120 easy

ITs insane so i just roll with amd

AMD's cpu's should be very interesting to gamers as well as average users because of their ability to offer great price-performance ratio's and this is starting to show in market share. Unfortunately this does not mean that AMD is doing well. They got back into the game but they were very much helped by intels odd decision to arbitrarily divide the market into high and low end and to introduce new socket types for each. This makes the high end relatively expensive and greatly limits customer choice in the low end. AMD can't really benefit from this situation though because it has a serious issue with keeping their die sizes in check which really hurts profitability.

AMD can't really benefit from this situation though because it has a serious issue with keeping their die sizes in check which really hurts profitability.

BLKR4330

amd phenomII brought them back to compete with intel altough they still lose in raw performance to i7 and amd dual cores are terrible compared to intels dual cores which walk all over them.johnny27

I prefer amd and ati as they are usually decently priced compared to nvidia/intel. I wanted an i7 and just all the stuff you need to buy for the damn thing is insane.

Motherboard- at least 150

CPU- at least 220

Ram-120 easy

ITs insane so i just roll with amd

njean777

They're the same as before... a lower dollar substitute, from Intel's higher powered and more expensive lineup..Threesixtyci

Well, by "before", I meant before the Thunderbird....Threesixtyci

The Phenoem II series is pretty effin good. And priced VERY well. Although the Intel's CPU are still better for the most part, but are more expensive.

[QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]They're the same as before... a lower dollar substitute, from Intel's higher powered and more expensive lineup..-GeordiLaForge-

I was an AMD fanboy, but have lost interest in recent years as they tend to satisfy the niche market of budget processors. They used to offer cheaper performance at the expense of a little heat, but as of recently their CPU's can't compare to Intel's as far as meeting my gaming needs. If they were to release a performance processor to compete with the i7, I would be looking into a new motherboard.

[QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]Well, by "before", I meant before the Thunderbird....-GeordiLaForge-

[QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]Well, by "before", I meant before the Thunderbird....-GeordiLaForge-

Doom 3 just didn't work well GeForce FX cards, especially the lower end ones, and there's speculation that there was special code written in DOOM 3 for the MX chips (the MX chips were the only ones supported by DOOM 3 that did not use DirectX 8 vertex and pixel shaders). Nvidia product were lousy at that time.

AMD was making better chips when the P3 and P4 were being produced. The P4 was worse than the P3 on a clock for clock basis, and there's no way a 2.4GHz P4 should be able to keep up with a 2.4 GHZ Athlon XP. The P4 was simply made to ramp up clock speeds -- it was all about marketing.

Just for your information, the Thunderbird was the origional Athlon. It was the chip that took everyone by surprise. And yes, AMD is back in the K6 days. They had a huge performance lead on Intel for a while, so it will be interesting to see if they can get it back.

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]Well, by "before", I meant before the Thunderbird....Makari

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]Ah yes, anything before the Athlon 64 was garbage compared to Intel... For instance, my neighbor had a 2.4GHz P4, 512mb of RAM, and 64mb GeForce MX 440. I had a 2.4GHz Athlon XP, 768gb of RAM, and a 256mb GeForce 5600fx. Because of his P4, Doom 3 ran better on his PC...-GeordiLaForge-

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]Ah yes, anything before the Athlon 64 was garbage compared to Intel... For instance, my neighbor had a 2.4GHz P4, 512mb of RAM, and 64mb GeForce MX 440. I had a 2.4GHz Athlon XP, 768gb of RAM, and a 256mb GeForce 5600fx. Because of his P4, Doom 3 ran better on his PC...-GeordiLaForge-

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="Makari"] A 2.4 AXP should've been able to handily smack around a 2.4 P4, IIRC - the 2500+ accounted itself well against the 2.4 533FSB P4, and that thing was only 1.83GHz or so.psychobrew

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]Ah yes, anything before the Athlon 64 was garbage compared to Intel... For instance, my neighbor had a 2.4GHz P4, 512mb of RAM, and 64mb GeForce MX 440. I had a 2.4GHz Athlon XP, 768gb of RAM, and a 256mb GeForce 5600fx. Because of his P4, Doom 3 ran better on his PC...-GeordiLaForge-

[QUOTE="Threesixtyci"]Well, by "before", I meant before the Thunderbird....-GeordiLaForge-