I am running the new drivers and have been for the pas couple of days. They seem to be very stable. I havnt had any issues yet, no BSOD or any other erros. I also noticed a very slight fps increase with games like Batman AA.
[QUOTE="rock_solid"]you don't even need to uninstall the old onesProjectPat187
well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"]you don't even need to uninstall the old onesrock_solid
well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually.
I really would advise against this, as I'm sure many others here would too.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"]you don't even need to uninstall the old onesrock_solid
well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. It's always safer to uninstall previous drivers and then install the new ones. New drivers occasionally don't install properly without uninstalling the previous drivers first.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"]you don't even need to uninstall the old onesrock_solid
well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. the setup does that for you
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"]you don't even need to uninstall the old onesrock_solid
well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. I do this and never had any problems.
Thanks everyone, well ive installed the new drivers and they seem ok. And yes i uninstalled the old ones, went into safe mode and ran driver sweeper, then rebooted again and installed the new ones.
For more than a year I havent uninstalled my drivers, I just install them directly and never had a problem. The uninstalling part is just too cumbersome and unneccesary. You only really need to do it when buying a new graphics card. Some people really make PC gaming look alot more complicated than it is.
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]For more than a year I havent uninstalled my drivers, I just install them directly and never had a problem. The uninstalling part is just too cumbersome and unneccesary. You only really need to do it when buying a new graphics card. Some people really make PC gaming look alot more complicated than it is. Agreed!
Thanks everyone, well ive installed the new drivers and they seem ok. And yes i uninstalled the old ones, went into safe mode and ran driver sweeper, then rebooted again and installed the new ones. Chris_53
all that is unnecessary. at least with nvidia drivers.
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]For more than a year I havent uninstalled my drivers, I just install them directly and never had a problem. The uninstalling part is just too cumbersome and unneccesary. You only really need to do it when buying a new graphics card. Some people really make PC gaming look alot more complicated than it is. agreed
It's not 100% necessary to manually uninstall first, many times it makes no difference, but it is considered good practice to do it, as it massively reduces the likelihood of conflicts.
I've had numerous problems in the past when I've installed drivers over the top of each other, particularly problems with anti-aliasing not working properly, and with the Nvidia control panel not showing up properly. Since I started manual removal and using Driver Cleaner Pro, I've never had the problems I used to have.
It gets worse when you install new drivers over the top of drivers which were installed over the top of older drivers which were installed over the top of older drivers which were installed over the top of older drivers etc.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"]you don't even need to uninstall the old onesrock_solid
well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"] well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new driversBut have you tried to not uninstall or are you just going by the "experts" opinion? First hand experience >>>>>> any of these so called experts. I mean if it is such a big deal then why so many people have no problems yet without taking all that hassle? These experts want to be different and perfect, they care about the tinniest details. As far as my experience is which is apparantly shared by a few here, it is simply not worth it. I mean sure **** happens at times but you cant put yourself in such a hassle just thinking that it may happen. And btw I dont uninstall my audio drivers either when updating without any problems...
How long have so called experts told us how to apply thermal paste and in the end some random guy goes and does it in different ways to proove that it doesn't even matter. When i update any other program it doesn't ever tell me to uninstall it first, you would think a company would know most people won't do that and try to avoid any complications otherwise they're are the noobs.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"] well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Well, you're wrong, depending on the context. In Windows 7 you don't even need to reboot to update your drivers, you simply install them and keep going - with something as old as XP, yeah, rebooting and cleaning was definitely a necessity. But that thing came out 8 years ago.
Yeah, the only thing I noticed was that ambient occlusion was turned off by default, which probably accounted for a lot of the performance boost in some of the games I play.
[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"] all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Well, you're wrong, depending on the context. In Windows 7 you don't even need to reboot to update your drivers, you simply install them and keep going - with something as old as XP, yeah, rebooting and cleaning was definitely a necessity. But that thing came out 8 years ago. Yeah, they moved many of the drivers with vista out of the kernel, so loading/unloading drivers is possible. This has the added benefit if that the video driver crashes it doesn't bring down your whole system. Booting into safe mode, running driver sweeper, or whatever, is wholly unnecessary... Run the uninstaller if you want, but usually just running the setup for the new driver is just fine.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"] all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually.Makari
you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Well, you're wrong, depending on the context. In Windows 7 you don't even need to reboot to update your drivers, you simply install them and keep going - with something as old as XP, yeah, rebooting and cleaning was definitely a necessity. But that thing came out 8 years ago.
You don't have to reboot in windows xp anymore either when installing the display drivers.
[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"] all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Well, you're wrong, depending on the context. In Windows 7 you don't even need to reboot to update your drivers, you simply install them and keep going - with something as old as XP, yeah, rebooting and cleaning was definitely a necessity. But that thing came out 8 years ago. well son its obvious you dont know what you are talking about, but hey if thats how you like to update your drivers, then do whatever pleases you
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"] all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new driversBut have you tried to not uninstall or are you just going by the "experts" opinion? First hand experience >>>>>> any of these so called experts. I mean if it is such a big deal then why so many people have no problems yet without taking all that hassle? These experts want to be different and perfect, they care about the tinniest details. As far as my experience is which is apparantly shared by a few here, it is simply not worth it. I mean sure **** happens at times but you cant put yourself in such a hassle just thinking that it may happen. And btw I dont uninstall my audio drivers either when updating without any problems... i'm the expert so what the heck are u saying, I just gave him a source, thats how I have been updating my drivers for years, AND tell me why so many people have problems when they dont uninstall the old drivers first, Gamespot forums is the last place to come to when it comes to advice for PC hardware, because there are too many noobs that give out misinformed info, so we can get off this subject quick
[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"] all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Well, you're wrong, depending on the context. In Windows 7 you don't even need to reboot to update your drivers, you simply install them and keep going - with something as old as XP, yeah, rebooting and cleaning was definitely a necessity. But that thing came out 8 years ago. in vista too, i don't need to reboot after installing nvidia drivers. i only need to reboot if i manually uninstall the old ones. if i just download and install, no rebooting is needed.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"] well if he is gonna install the new ones he will need to uninstall the old ones first all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Experts also say you should use a anti-static band when building a PC....but C'mon.
[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="rock_solid"] all you need to do is download the new ones and install them. you don't need to uninstall the previous ones manually. you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Experts also say you should use a anti-static band when building a PC....but C'mon. i'm the expert so what the heck are u saying, I just gave him a source, thats how I have been updating my drivers for years, AND tell me why so many people have problems when they dont uninstall the old drivers first, Gamespot forums is the last place to come to when it comes to advice for PC hardware, because there are too many noobs that give out misinformed info, so we can get off this subject quick
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"] i'm the expert so what the heck are u saying, I just gave him a source, thats how I have been updating my drivers for years, AND tell me why so many people have problems when they dont uninstall the old drivers first, Gamespot forums is the last place to come to when it comes to advice for PC hardware, because there are too many noobs that give out misinformed info, so we can get off this subject quick what people have problems still, especially entirely due to the method of driver installation? 'how we've done it for years' falls apart in the face of something where the product you are talking about was specifically changed to address the issue, i.e. the vista/w7 kernel change mentioned before. i said i understand the behavior in XP, because it's true for that product. it's not needed in vista/7 though. how we've done it for years also has people revving FI engines to keep the nonexistent carbs from flooding, under pretty much the same line of reasoning. i dunno if i'm an expert yet, but i've done the whole MCSE/MCITP/CCNA basic stuff in addition to a few desktop OS certs, if that counts at all.
[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="ProjectPat187"] you couldnt be more wrong, can you say CONFLICTS, the very reason you must uninstall the old drivers first ( like you do every other driver and program for other products ) go to a site guru3d.com they are experts on drivers and will tell you not only do you uninstall the old drivers first you run driver cleaner before you install the new drivers Experts also say you should use a anti-static band when building a PC....but C'mon. i'm the expert so what the heck are u saying, I just gave him a source, thats how I have been updating my drivers for years, AND tell me why so many people have problems when they dont uninstall the old drivers first, Gamespot forums is the last place to come to when it comes to advice for PC hardware, because there are too many noobs that give out misinformed info, so we can get off this subject quick IAM THE EXPERT,,,BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Ok something interesting happened for the context of this thread.
I hadnt installed drivers for a LONG time since I wasnt playing any new games so didnt bother. So I installed them yesterday and it was the first time I was going to install drivers with PhysX. Now the old ageia physx software was installed in my PC(GRAW had a mandatory requirement to install it). In the middle of the new driver installation I was prompted to uninstall the ageia physX, I clicked yes and it uninstalled.
See that software was probably going to conflict with the driver and the driver automatically found it and uninstalled it. If deleting driver was such a big issue then I am sure nvidia could simply do it themselves...
I used to uninstall my drivers before updating (I still do occasionally), but the issue for my computer seems to be that it automatically installs the last 'good' driver once it notices that there is no driver for a piece of hardware. That means it just reinstalled the driver I uninstalled. Then when I go to install a new driver, it says I have to reboot, since a driver was just recently installed. So I essentially just wasted my time, if I do it every time I want to update my driver.
Daytona and rock_solid are living proof to why one should not come to the PC hardware forums for tech advice. They really have no idea what they are talking about, but claim to know everything. Really people whom do not remove their old drivers are well not the brightest when it comes to computers.
Daytona and rock_solid are living proof to why one should not come to the PC hardware forums for tech advice. They really have no idea what they are talking about, but claim to know everything. Really people whom do not remove their old drivers are well not the brightest when it comes to computers.millerlight89
Ok.:roll:
Btw how do you retain your game profiles by uninstalling the driver?
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Daytona and rock_solid are living proof to why one should not come to the PC hardware forums for tech advice. They really have no idea what they are talking about, but claim to know everything. Really people whom do not remove their old drivers are well not the brightest when it comes to computers.Gambler_3
Ok.:roll:
Btw how do you retain your game profiles by uninstalling the driver?
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Daytona and rock_solid are living proof to why one should not come to the PC hardware forums for tech advice. They really have no idea what they are talking about, but claim to know everything. Really people whom do not remove their old drivers are well not the brightest when it comes to computers.millerlight89
Ok.:roll:
Btw how do you retain your game profiles by uninstalling the driver?
I really hope you are not asking that seriously. I am asking about the individual profiles in the driver where I have assigned unique settings for different games.
All those setings are resetted if I uninstall the driver...
Daytona and rock_solid are living proof to why one should not come to the PC hardware forums for tech advice. They really have no idea what they are talking about, but claim to know everything. Really people whom do not remove their old drivers are well not the brightest when it comes to computers.millerlight89
you're the one who is promoting monkey see-monkey do thinking. "for years and years ppl would always uninstall manually first" blah blah blah. i reaffirm, manually uninstalling nvidia drivers before installing new ones is unnecessary. the installer will automatically do what it needs to do. try it this way, be amazed, and learn something. been using my own computer since having a 386SX/33mhz, 2MB of ram.. 2400 baud modem. but ok, don't take my advice. peace.
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Daytona and rock_solid are living proof to why one should not come to the PC hardware forums for tech advice. They really have no idea what they are talking about, but claim to know everything. Really people whom do not remove their old drivers are well not the brightest when it comes to computers.rock_solid
you're the one who is promoting monkey see-monkey do thinking. "for years and years ppl would always uninstall manually first" blah blah blah. i reaffirm, manually uninstalling nvidia drivers before installing new ones is unnecessary. the installer will automatically do what it needs to do. try it this way, be amazed, and learn something. been using my own computer since having a 386SX/33mhz, 2MB of ram.. 2400 baud modem. but ok, don't take my advice. peace. Trust me I won't take your advice as I have not asked for it. I have seen first hand that not uninstalling drivers lead to issues, as my friend is like you and is too lazy to do it and he had major conflicts.
[QUOTE="rock_solid"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Daytona and rock_solid are living proof to why one should not come to the PC hardware forums for tech advice. They really have no idea what they are talking about, but claim to know everything. Really people whom do not remove their old drivers are well not the brightest when it comes to computers.millerlight89
you're the one who is promoting monkey see-monkey do thinking. "for years and years ppl would always uninstall manually first" blah blah blah. i reaffirm, manually uninstalling nvidia drivers before installing new ones is unnecessary. the installer will automatically do what it needs to do. try it this way, be amazed, and learn something. been using my own computer since having a 386SX/33mhz, 2MB of ram.. 2400 baud modem. but ok, don't take my advice. peace. Trust me I won't take your advice as I have not asked for it. I have seen first hand that not uninstalling drivers lead to issues, as my friend is like you and is too lazy to do it and he had major conflicts.What particular problem he had?
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