How bad will SD be with a 360?

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#1 MrKarst
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I consider myself closer to the newbie end of the spectrum on HDTV-related topics. However, I have read several articles and posts as well as talked to some salespeople in the stores, so I think I understand all the basic differences among the competing technologies.

Here's a rundown of my current set-up:

  • 30-32" (diagonal) SD TV set that is more than 10 years old but still works great; it only has composite and s-video inputs
  • A relatively inexpensive but serviceable stereo receiver hooked up to a pair of old speakers (no clue of the wattage, but they can shake the house when cranked up)
  • Game consoles: original XBox, PS2, and a Wii

I understand that if I get a big HDTV that my three consoles won't look great on it due to pixelation. However, at least the XBox has some games that can do 720p, so I would expect some games to look better, at least on a 720p HDTV. I assume pixelation would still be an issue even for those games with a 1080p set.

I expect to be getting an XBox 360 in the next few months (the Orange Box will be the primary cause, but Halo 3 and Bioshock will be in my collection early on, too, I'm sure). My fundamental question is this: How bad will the 360 (and these games) look on my SD TV?

I have been told that the 360 will actually look pretty good on an SD set, but am I selling myself short by not getting an HDTV? I will still be doing a lot (perhaps a majority) of gaming on the older consoles (everything is shared with the family, who won't be using the 360 so much).

I have also considered spending my budget on a home theater surround sound system instead, even though my existing speakers are fine (no surround though). So these seem to be my options:

  1. Get a plasma or LCD with 1080p, which will probably delay the purchase of the 360 because it will break my budget
  2. Get an HDTV that only does 720p and save some cash
  3. Keep the SD set and spend the money on surround sound and more software
  4. Save even more money by only getting the console

Clearly this is about balancing and determing relative values of different options. I am looking for advice to help inform my decision. In case it's not obvious from context, I am a semi-serious medium-core gamer who likes FPS and action/adventure games that tell good stories with high production values (or something). And I share my consoles with young kids and a wife who are more into "casual" games, at least for now. Oh yeah, we also watch a fair number of DVDs (just standard so far) and some TV shows on digital cable. I like NFL football, too (go Broncos).

Thanks in advance for any suggestions or guidance.

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#2 mike7677
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Actually, I thought it looks good on an SD set.  Previously I gave my 360 to my nephew who had it on a 32" Sony set.  it looked pretty good.
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#3 N0han
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2 of my rl friends have xbox 360's with SDTVS , the games are still great, the graphics will still be an improvement over the ps2/old xbox but it wont be the "cant believe it" different. Its not bad to start playing your 360 on an SDTV, I did the same thing but its advisable to try and upgrade your TV somewhere later on. And once you've played HD you cannot go back.
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#4 MrKarst
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Thanks a lot for the replies.

This helps me understand how a 360 will look on SD, but how about the other way: Wii, PS2, etc. on an HDTV?

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#5 kidkit
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it would depend on how large the hdtv is. The larger you go, the bigger the standard def. images get blown up. make sure that you have component cables for wii and ps2 to get the most out of them so they are at least running in 480p when possible (not all games support it).
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#6 cjek
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A large SDTV is acceptable for the 360. Less than 22" would probably be the point at which you'd have problems reading text in some games, and the picture become flickery due to the normal practice of sitting much closer to screens of this size. Playing on a 22"+ screen will be good for a while, but eventually you'll want to upgrade to a larger TV which is HD. 1080i/p is only really an improvement over 720p if A) the game supports 1080i/p and B) if the screen is fairly large, I mean like 40"+. Most HDTV's support 1080i/p anyway, and I haven't seen many 720p only TV's, so you may need to look around for one to save money. Plasma has now reached an acceptable standard compared to LCD, but there's still the bonus of paying much less for it, so it's probably worth going for plasma.
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#7 MrKarst
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So I am coming to the conclusion that I can't have my cake and eat it, too. In other words, if I keep the SD then the old consoles will look good, 360 will look OK but not nearly as good as it could. If I get an HDTV, I win with the 360 but the old consoles will look pixelated. I think the answer is to get an HDTV when the 360 accounts for exactly 41.2% of our gaming time. Once we do, we can learn to live with the pixelation on the old consoles and bask in the glory of HD on the 360. Does anyone have any thoughts on the sound system? I know less about the differences between surround vs. non-surround, multiple speakers around the room, etc.