How beneficial is overclocking?

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#1 ncderek
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how beneficial is overclocking?

ive never overclocked my cpu or ram, but i hear some people change those frequencies and can sometimes get a huge difference like 1.86ghz as in mine all the way to 3.0 ghz. which is huge, but is it that necessary or even noticeable. and im not talking about 3d mark scores, im talking about is it noticable in gaming or every day stuff?

what about video card? i overclocked my 9800xt before with ati  tool and didnt really notice a difference at all in games, just got really hot a lot, so i only overclocked it if i was about to play a game. is that really make a difference besides a better score?

to me it all seems pointless, or am i missing something?
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#2 StonedCaO
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Well, overclocking all depends on your hardware. If you want good, noticeable results, you need a decent motherboard chipset, a good OCing processor, RAM that can handle OCing (generally DDR2-800 memory and higher frequencies) and above all, decent cooling or you'll burn out your parts. OCing is all about pushing (comparatively) cheap hardware to top of the line performance. It's really an interesting thing once you get into the specifics - there are so many things you need to consider before doing it, so I'd recommend going to a site like Tom's Hardware or Anandtech for some pointers first.
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#3 BeavermanA
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It is immensely beneficial in both saving money and gaining performance. PCI-E cards oc way better than AGP cards did it seems, tried playing Oblivion @ 1600x1200 with things on high when I first made my current pc, ran like ass. OC'd the video card and it was perfectly smooth afterwards. Most serious pc gamers will buy things just with the intention of overclocking, I haven't ran things at stock speeds since I began making my own rigs in the 90s, its a waste if you do.
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#4 -GeordiLaForge-
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If you take it as far as I do, then it is very beneficial...
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#5 SoberWarock
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Oh man, if you overclock you could save hundreds of dollars and its VERY beneficial
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#6 Generalkill8888
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Oh man, if you overclock you could save hundreds of dollars and its VERY beneficial SoberWarock
I agree, You can save quite a bit of money if you OC. I saved a couple bucks OCing my CPU.
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#7 littlehelp
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Doesn't OCing reduce the lifespan of hardware?
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#8 damzor
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yes, OC'ing does reduce the lifetime of hardware, but most hardware is designed to last at least 5 years or more. and by the time it near the end of its lifetime it's nearly obsolete and will have probably been replaced anyway. providing better cooling will minimise the effect the extra stress places on the parts, particularly in the form of heat.
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#9 X360PS3AMD05
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Doesn't OCing reduce the lifespan of hardware?animemog
Lets say your CPU only lasts 10 years instead of 20..... Who cares???   I don't....
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#10 shearMario
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Doesn't OCing reduce the lifespan of hardware?animemog

Yes but your CPU will be will out of date by the time it dies

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#11 bernardrea
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i am interested on overclocking my cpu it is a am2 5200 2.6, i actually overclocked it to 3.00 and it was stablish, it bluescreened on company of heroes so i reset it back down, i would like to do it again only knowing what to raise for stability i hear people talking about the v core etc but im not sure how much to raise thses voltages, any help would be great

am2 5200 2.6

asusm2n32 sli deluxe mobo

ddr2 corsair 2gig 800mhz 6400

bfg 8800 gts oc

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#12 Makari
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i am interested on overclocking my cpu it is a am2 5200 2.6, i actually overclocked it to 3.00 and it was stablish, it bluescreened on company of heroes so i reset it back down, i would like to do it again only knowing what to raise for stability i hear people talking about the v core etc but im not sure how much to raise thses voltages, any help would be great

am2 5200 2.6

asusm2n32 sli deluxe mobo

ddr2 corsair 2gig 800mhz 6400

bfg 8800 gts oc

bernardrea
similar to what other people said, reading around on the internet's always a good thing. use a program like orthos to test your stability.. if it can't run basically all day, your system isn't stable somehow. :) bluescreens are 99% of the time RAM problems, though - i'm guessing when you overclocked, your corsair couldn't handle the combination of bus speed / voltage / timings that you had. You went from 200-230 and didn't change anything else?
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#13 ForlornHope
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you really have to know what your doing to get a benefit and also you dont always save money beacuse youll almost always need more/better cooling to handle the new temps. Besides the obvious cost if the worst happens and you screw up your hardware. It can be fun and satafying tho. I have only OCed once tho on an old 6600 AGP I was about to sell on ebay :P. I value my hardware. Also keep in mind you will shorten the life of your conponents. if you don't upgrade often and can't afford to replace them don't overclock.
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#14 ForlornHope
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[QUOTE="animemog"]Doesn't OCing reduce the lifespan of hardware?shearMario

Yes but your CPU will be will out of date by the time it dies



that doesnt mean people want to replace it. A heck of alot of people have very old or at  least last gen systems. Only a small % of the market is hardcore gamers that upgrade every month.
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#15 ncderek
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i dont know if ill ever take the risk in overclocking...i would just hate it if one of my parts ever burnt out and it wasnt that old
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#16 ForlornHope
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i dont know if ill ever take the risk in overclocking...i would just hate it if one of my parts ever burnt out and it wasnt that oldncderek


then dont. If you cant afford it you shouldn't.
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#17 TheLiberal
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i dont know if ill ever take the risk in overclocking...i would just hate it if one of my parts ever burnt out and it wasnt that oldncderek


A good rule of thumb to follow is: Don't overclock anything you can't afford to replace.
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#18 ncderek
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i could afford it, i just dont want to. im cheap like that
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#19 TheLiberal
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i could afford it, i just dont want to. im cheap like thatncderek


I'm cheap, too.  I just keep my clocks relatively low.
I'm running my 3800+ X2 EE @ 2345MHz (stock voltage) and my DDR2 667 (stock 5-5-5-15 timings) at 780MHz (with 4-4-4-12 timings with 1.95V).
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#20 ForlornHope
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[QUOTE="ncderek"]i dont know if ill ever take the risk in overclocking...i would just hate it if one of my parts ever burnt out and it wasnt that oldTheLiberal


A good rule of thumb to follow is: Don't overclock anything you can't afford to replace.



Yourve been to tweakguides too havent you :P That quote is from there.
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#21 muppet1010
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does overclocking void your warranties... im guessing it does or nvidia/ati/intel wouldnt be in business still if it didnt:)

^^too many fools like me not knowing what they are doing^^
(yes I destroyed the first video card I tried to overclock(leanrt the hard/expensive way))
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#22 ForlornHope
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Yes.
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#23 ncderek
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how would they know if youve overclocked a part? cant you just put it back at stock speeds before returning it?
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#24 TheLiberal
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[QUOTE="TheLiberal"][QUOTE="ncderek"]i dont know if ill ever take the risk in overclocking...i would just hate it if one of my parts ever burnt out and it wasnt that oldForlornHope


A good rule of thumb to follow is: Don't overclock anything you can't afford to replace.



Yourve been to tweakguides too havent you :P That quote is from there.



Actually, no.  I saw someone else here say it, and it's a good idea, so now I tell people that whenever they ask about the risks involved in overclocking.
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#25 RazorGR
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how would they know if youve overclocked a part? cant you just put it back at stock speeds before returning it?ncderek


They won't and even if they did suspect you OC'ed , they won't be able to prove it anyway. You won't even need to put anything back to it's original settings because the parts themselves don't store any data. The changes you make are saved in the BIOS chip on your Mobo.
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#26 muppet1010
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plus if youve destroyed your gfx card what is their left to check??? but then again i think they would know that the card wont burst into flames if you leave it as it came(yes i know that they dont actually burst into flames... it just sounds better)
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#27 achilles614
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so really the whole thing about voiding your warranty is just a bunch of bologna
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#28 Makari
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nah, they do have ways of checking if they suspect anything's amiss, but a lot of the time they just don't bother. it's just incredibly immoral to try to return something under warranty when you broke it yourself. that gets you flamed pretty hard on most hardware forums on the internet. edit: i've roasted a 6800gt agp of mine back when they first came out ~$400, and didn't try to RMA the card because i was pretty sure it was my fault during replacing the HSF and putting on AS5. just used an old ti4200 again..
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#29 SoberWarock
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Doesn't OCing reduce the lifespan of hardware?animemog
Not if your going to keep the same processor for more than 8 years 0.0
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#30 -GeordiLaForge-
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Doesn't OCing reduce the lifespan of hardware?animemog
Not if you keep the temps down...
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#31 Baselerd
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The argument against OC'ing saying some people use old hardware and cant afford to get newer stuff is bogus. Only enthusiasts OC anyways. It's always comforting to know that you payed $150 less than the performance you are getting =) (right now I'm somewhere between a 4600+ and 4800+)

OC'ing isnt that bad for the lifespan of your hardware if you arent crazy about it. I have everything at stock voltages, and don't increase the speed that much (300MHz on the cpu, 40MHz on the RAM, quite a bit on my gpu though :-D)