How come every game is ditching GFWL?

How come everyone hate GFWL? i played a lot of games using GFWL and it really didn't bother me, it increases my Gamerscore and it's not that bad

I went into Services (as well as Boot Programs) and disabled all of the Windows Live programs. I don't use it, and I don't have any games that depend on it.

Windows Live just eats up RAM if you aren't using it.:P

BioWare did it right with DA:O - you only need to go online to update your achievements as you wish, or to install a new DLC - you aren't forced to do it.

How come everyone hate GFWL? i played a lot of games using GFWL and it really didn't bother me, it increases my Gamerscore and it's not that bad

guildclaws

You only get one chance to make a first impression , MS failed :P

If you want customers, then treat them with respect.

You don't even respect your product, you release halo 2 on vista, its not even DX 10 graphics,

you release gears of war on vista, reviews criticize certain bugs, you abandon the pc, with your best exclusives,

flight sim x was dx10, yet when reviews had issues, you moved to fight sim gold,

vista had so much potential,stay with it like you stuck with xp, no you move to win 7,

GFWL is a good concept stay with it, patch it constantly, it can be gold, well its about windows 8, i mean seriously.

I dislike the dl speeds, but i do like the no drm on gfwl, unlike steam. I like not having to login to a service to just play a game.

GFWL is an abomination. It was MS's attempt to consolize the PC market and it thankfully failed hard. They tried to charge you for online play, the entire setup and design of it is flawed and desiged for a controller, it's terribly slow.....lots of issues. In steam I can one click invite/join games in pogress, see my friends and a bunch of other things. GWFL makes you jump through slow hoops to get anywhere.

I went into Services (as well as Boot Programs) and disabled all of the Windows Live programs. I don't use it, and I don't have any games that depend on it.

Windows Live just eats up RAM if you aren't using it.:P

BioWare did it right with DA:O - you only need to go online to update your achievements as you wish, or to install a new DLC - you aren't forced to do it.

topsemag55

Along with all the truths people just gave, GFWL is a PC dev's enemy. Every single patch needs to go through Window's screening and approval before launch. This means that not only your patches come out much later, but they also are much less frequent because instead of being able to changed 50 lines of code to fix one bug the devs have to compile them all into one patch and or prioritize what bugs they can fix.

Why would you need to approve a patch anyway? It's ridiculous.

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I went into Services (as well as Boot Programs) and disabled all of the Windows Live programs. I don't use it, and I don't have any games that depend on it.

Windows Live just eats up RAM if you aren't using it.:P

BioWare did it right with DA:O - you only need to go online to update your achievements as you wish, or to install a new DLC - you aren't forced to do it.

carlosjuero

You only get one chance to make a first impression , MS failed :P

akira2465

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You only get one chance to make a first impression , MS failed :P

KLONE360

Steam had no competition. A product can be a mess and still be successful when nobody else is trying to draw away consumers. Had MS been the first they may have been successful, but probably not.

Charging for online play was beyond stupid. Even moreso when the stereotype for PC gamers is basement dwelling nerds who build computers from scratch for fun. To believe that a group like that would be dumb enough to pay for a service when they're already paying or own the servers in the first place required a complete disconnect from reality. I don't know how they found someone so ignorant of the PC market to have even suggested such a practice, much less found someone dumb enough to put them in charge of anything related to PC gaming. It's a stigma that has pretty much eradicated any chanch GFWL ever has to be successful on PCs.