PC gamers are more picky. I don't think I've ever given a game a 10 either. I mean a 10's perfect, certainly there's some flaw somewhere.techpunk
Who says 10 is perfect? Nothing is perfect. Giving a five-star rating to something definitely doesn't mean it's perfect. What is the point of having a ten in the rating if it's never used? That would mean 9.5 is actually the highest score and that's why GS started giving away tens again. But the real question here is, what does it matter?
Somewhere down the line, reviewers are missing the whole point of a game... and the point of a game is to have fun. Dawn of War 2 had it by the buketload, it's campaign was so incredible but it still got average reviews? A pure gamer's opinion, uncorrupted by hype and money, means it's the best opinion around. I'd take one gamer's opinion on Dawn of War 2 being a fantastic game over 20 hired reviews saying it's 'OK' any day.
Somewhere down the line, reviewers are missing the whole point of a game... and the point of a game is to have fun. Dawn of War 2 had it by the buketload, it's campaign was so incredible but it still got average reviews? A pure gamer's opinion, uncorrupted by hype and money, means it's the best opinion around. I'd take one gamer's opinion on Dawn of War 2 being a fantastic game over 20 hired reviews saying it's 'OK' any day.Solidus171
well everyone has different opinions, i love some games that were rated like 6 and i hate some games that were rated above 9, but i usually on this site go by the user rating over the gamespot rating
10.0: PrimeThis exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.
It's all subjective. Some people give out 10's like crazy. I'm stingy with 'em. I don't think I've ever given a movie a 10 either. A woman as a 10? Please. She has a flaw. :P
10's are boring. I don't know about you guys, but I like my games like my women. Close to perfection, but with a certain flaw you personally can't help but love.
Really, percentage number scores have always seemed like a bad idea to me. Do reviewers really need to be that precise? So many things use the five star rating system to good affect; why can't games? All these percentage scores do is fuel nitpicking fanboy arguments.
im going to go with hype. i know reviewers take impartiality very seriously but at the same time, there only human. they can get sweapt up in the whole launch event and there judgement can be slightly misguided. its certainly happened to me a few times with my purchasing decisions (why oh why did i buy Halo 3?). of course ppl also have different opinions. i dont think a PC game will ever get a 10 though (not here anyway) simply because PC games arent backed by multi-million dollar marketing budgets that generate insane hype. PC reviewers from various sites have also remarked that they wouldnt have scored 10 scoring games a 10 if they were reviewing it (IGNs PC team remarked that they wouldnt have given GTA4 such a high score if they were reviewing it on the consoles nor did they score it 100 on the PC when it was released for example). so that puts another dent in the PC game scoring a 10 campaign.
Wait for Empire. That'll get a 10 if the reviewers have any common sense and aren't the corrupted, console-gaming reviewers they appear to be...bangell99
IGN gave it a 9.5, which is the highest i've ever seen them give...but I havne't seen a lot of their reviews. The Total War series is likely the best strategy series ever, but I can see why it didn't earn a 10 in previous iterations. And BTW, they all ARE corrupted by consoles.
PC game vary more than console games allowing for more game generes like Massivley Multiplayer online. But even some of the best games can be ruined by glitches and hackers.
I don't know how many of my friends have said WOW is now there favorite game of all time. I would think the only reason you couldn't give it a 10 is because it eats your life after a while.
I can't honestly say that I know why a PC game hasn't gotten a 10 but for me it dosen't really matter. Granted my PC isnt the best in the world but I play whatever I find fun and entertaining(as long as I can run it). That's the whole point of gaming isn't it?
[QUOTE="techpunk"]PC gamers are more picky. I don't think I've ever given a game a 10 either. I mean a 10's perfect, certainly there's some flaw somewhere.RK-Mara
Who says 10 is perfect? Nothing is perfect. Giving a five-star rating to something definitely doesn't mean it's perfect. What is the point of having a ten in the rating if it's never used? That would mean 9.5 is actually the highest score and that's why GS started giving away tens again. But the real question here is, what does it matter? It depends on the reviewer.... Some reviewers hold a 10 as a perfect (OXM has 11 has perfect so it confuses the hell out of people who say "THIS GAME GOT A 10 OUT OF 10" when it is 10 out of 11). If a reviewer doesn't hold 10 as a perfect then it isn't. But a 10 CAN mean perfect, BUT it doesn't HAVE to. To me i think it should because no game will ever be perfect and therefore should never get it. Also i think Gamespot sucks because if something doesn't hurt a games score then it shouldn't be mentioned in the con list, but just in the review. Look at the Madden 08 or something review for 360 to PS3... It bothers me to say that it is a con, but the score is the same because it doesn't make a big difference. In that case it shouldn't be a fu***** con!!!
Because nothing is perfect. Games that get 10's are generally overrated and overhyped, so the reviewer overlooks the flaws. I felt better when GS used 1-10 with scores like 8.4 and 9.7.
console kids are so prepossessed with having "the best game" that they hype any game worthy of an 8.0 to a 10.0 and gamespot happily obliges. not to mention pc gamers are more picky, as techpunk says.
If anything, a game getting 10/10 will worry me. Nothing is perfect, perfection is like the holy grail, a concept where it's not the point to reach it, but to go in its direction and come out a better man. A game that doesn't reach perfection but learns its lessons and achieves a new benchmark will do for me. The Witcher, a game with such ambition and power was covered with bugs and barriers...but what really counts is the PASSION coming straight from the developers to make that game even better with the enhanced edition...and that alone elevates the game beyond any percentage score that anyone can give it.
A game that gets 10/10 is bs. GTA4 did not deserve a 10/10. Its a good game but there are flaws and stuff. As for pc games wont' happen to review sites like gamespot as they dont' care about pc games and just give a good game a mediocre score. I only watch reviews because I like to see the gameplay I ignore what the reviewers say as they have no idea what their talking about :P
PC gamers are more picky. I don't think I've ever given a game a 10 either. I mean a 10's perfect, certainly there's some flaw somewhere.techpunk
As much as I agree with you, I must ask if you have read any of the reviews of 10.0 games. Although they got "Perfect" scores, they metions flaws, so technically, no game has ever gotten a perfect 10.0, more like a 9.9 or 9.8.
To get widespread 10s games need massive amounts of hype behind them, and even that doesn't always guarantee a perfect score. GTAIV got a 10 largely on hype that glossed over its flaws, and gushing praise over ruled common sense. For PC games one of the main problems stopping games getting a 10 is technical problems. How many games have you played in the last year that hasn't had technical problems for you? Online activation, DRM, install limits, patches, driver updates, hotfixes etc. - it is now as much a part of PC gaming as actually playing the games, and certainly detracts from the fun. PC games are also marked on a different standard from console games. Where a console game will get praised for its wonderful graphics, the same standard on a PC would get mocked for looking awful. A PC game has to look stunning on a massive resolution to please the graphics nuts, but then instantly puts off people that want deeper gaming thinking you can't have stunning graphics AND great gameplay in the same package. It's almost as if everyone is waiting to pick a part of the game for criticism rather than enjoying what it is
Since there are grades above A (See A+ or A++ which I have seen people get) I doubt that an A would be considered 100% anywhere. If it is then I highly doubt an A would be given.
To get widespread 10s games need massive amounts of hype behind them, and even that doesn't always guarantee a perfect score. GTAIV got a 10 largely on hype that glossed over its flaws, and gushing praise over ruled common sense. For PC games one of the main problems stopping games getting a 10 is technical problems. How many games have you played in the last year that hasn't had technical problems for you? Online activation, DRM, install limits, patches, driver updates, hotfixes etc. - it is now as much a part of PC gaming as actually playing the games, and certainly detracts from the fun. PC games are also marked on a different standard from console games. Where a console game will get praised for its wonderful graphics, the same standard on a PC would get mocked for looking awful. A PC game has to look stunning on a massive resolution to please the graphics nuts, but then instantly puts off people that want deeper gaming thinking you can't have stunning graphics AND great gameplay in the same package. It's almost as if everyone is waiting to pick a part of the game for criticism rather than enjoying what it isAvenger1324
Thats Very true. about 95% of people that look at games look at one specific peice and then judge it that way. While its a known fact that a console can only have a certain graphic performance. To create a game it runs through a computer meaning the computer has such a higher expectation for graphics automatically. Because you always expect that the master is better then the student per say. If we could get the critics to rate the game without having a bias for graphics or deep gameplay you would definately have some titles that would be 10. The day a PC game gets a 10 is when People who think graphics are what make a game and people who think good gameplay make a good game settle on a agreement somewhere in the middle.
OH and for the record, 100% can be achieved. If you take a math test and get all the answers right and you score a 100. You have a perfect paper. There are very few things where perfect can be achieved. Math fortunately is one of the things that you cant dispute if its perfect or not. there are many different ways to get 1 answer thats correct. to get an answer of 4 there are about half a million different things you can do and be perfect or 100% correct about it. for example 2+2=4, 2 squared is 4, 8 divided by 2 is 4, 2x2=4, 100 divided by 25 is 4. those are all correct and in no way are not perfect. :)
Well I must say PC Gaming has alot to live up to due to such a past of magnificent games that penetrated the platform very efficiently and thoroughly revolutionizing the PC Platform. In addition PC Gaming lacks PR to build overall excitement for a game launch rather then the consoles which does this quite well. At the core the strongest strength of PC Gaming is the essence of the community experience.
We need to fix problems like getting Display Drivers, Sound Drivers, Updates and much more to PC users to make everybody lives alot easier and I point to Microsoft about this due to there seems to be absolute no improvements in the OS to solute these issues.
There's simply no argument that PC is indeed the better platform. Over the years PC Gaming has always been at the forefront of Image Base Rendering(Graphics) and technical achievement. The participation from users of Mods, Dedicated servers and User base levels is simply astounding. PC Gaming is marvelous!
What i think is even more crazy is that many ppl start thinking that games that score a 7.0 - 8.0 are utter trash. The bar is set too high and very decent fun games that get nice scores of 6's and 7's and some 8's are getting totally overlooked.
What i think is even more crazy is that many ppl start thinking that games that score a 7.0 - 8.0 are utter trash. The bar is set too high and very decent fun games that get nice scores of 6's and 7's and some 8's are getting totally overlooked.Tyson8earzz
Word.. And alot of it has to do with bugs some times that are completely fixed with patches.. To the point that a game to me seems like instead of a 7.5 it should have gotten a 9.0.. Vampires the Masquerades comes to mind.. That is why I am a firm believer that games should every so often be briefly re-reviewed if it has undergown a huge amount of patching.. Peope say "No they had their chance they should not get a re-review of the game"... Who cares about the devs, reviews are suppose to be for the BUYERS.. NOT the DEVS.. Though at timesit seems like people think thats the case..
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