How do you go about getting a case and fitting water coolers

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#1 mattamomo
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i am going to build my own PC and i feel i will need it for my project, but i have no idea how it works or how i would go about it

any help appreciated?

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#2 ravenguard90
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Depends what you are referring "water coolers" to. Do you mean pre-sealed loops like the Corsair H80 and the like, or do you mean custom-made loops, like custom radiators, pumps, CPU and GPU blocks, etc.?

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#3 mattamomo
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ermmm, thats what i dont know lol

i got recommended by a friend to use 'water coolers and need a master class in them

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#4 MlauTheDaft
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You don't really need water cooling since air solutions have come a very long way but there are two basic variants:

These are Corsair H80 and H100, both are as user friendly as traditional air coolers.

Then we have the do-it-from-scrath method:

For best results but a fair deal of research and comfidence is required.

Edit:

Your case just needs to have enough room and proper holes for tubing if you intend to have your cooling element outside the case.

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#5 ravenguard90
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ermmm, thats what i dont know lol

i got recommended by a friend to use 'water coolers and need a master class in them

mattamomo

Well, for the pre-sealed loops, all you'll need is one or two spare 120mm fan ports close to the CPU, depending on which cooler you purchase.

On the other hand, if you are thinking the custom approach, then yes, you will need to do a lot of research if you have no idea how to do it.

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#6 mattamomo
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a its my first build i guess i should use sealed ones?

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#7 GS550L
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a its my first build i guess i should use sealed ones?

mattamomo

Even a cheap air cooler would suit you fine if you're not too concerned about overclocking.

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#8 ravenguard90
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If it's your first build, I would assume you have no idea how to overclock either. In that case, I wouldn't even look at those coolers. You won't need that level of cooling performance at all. I'd say to just stick with a cheap, but efficient, aftermarket CPU heatsink and be done with it. No need for water cooling if all you'll be doing is running the CPU at stock speeds.

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#9 mattamomo
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If it's your first build, I would assume you have no idea how to overclock either. In that case, I wouldn't even look at those coolers. You won't need that level of cooling performance at all. I'd say to just stick with a cheap, but efficient, aftermarket CPU heatsink and be done with it. No need for water cooling if all you'll be doing is running the CPU at stock speeds.

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im using a 8 core 3.6ghz processor, that ok for conventional cooling?

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#10 ravenguard90
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[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

If it's your first build, I would assume you have no idea how to overclock either. In that case, I wouldn't even look at those coolers. You won't need that level of cooling performance at all. I'd say to just stick with a cheap, but efficient, aftermarket CPU heatsink and be done with it. No need for water cooling if all you'll be doing is running the CPU at stock speeds.

mattamomo

im using a 8 core 3.6ghz processor, that ok for conventional cooling?

8 core 3.6ghz processor... You're not talking about an FX processor, are you? If you are, don't buy it. Go for an i5 2500k or something. You'll be much, much happier with your purchase.

Either way, though, you'll be fine with conventional CPU air cooling.

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#11 mattamomo
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[QUOTE="mattamomo"]

[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

If it's your first build, I would assume you have no idea how to overclock either. In that case, I wouldn't even look at those coolers. You won't need that level of cooling performance at all. I'd say to just stick with a cheap, but efficient, aftermarket CPU heatsink and be done with it. No need for water cooling if all you'll be doing is running the CPU at stock speeds.

ravenguard90

im using a 8 core 3.6ghz processor, that ok for conventional cooling?

8 core 3.6ghz processor... You're not talking about an FX processor, are you? If you are, don't buy it. Go for an i5 2500k or something. You'll be much, much happier with your purchase.

Either way, though, you'll be fine with conventional CPU air cooling.

whats better about them?

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#12 ravenguard90
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Lower power consumption, better IPC, higher performance potential when OC'ed, higher memory bandwidth... The list goes on. If you really want to go with an AMD processor, just find a Phenom II hexacore and enjoy the savings while getting similar performance from it compared to a typical FX octa-core processor.

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#13 mattamomo
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Lower power consumption, better IPC, higher performance potential when OC'ed, higher memory bandwidth... The list goes on. If you really want to go with an AMD processor, just find a Phenom II hexacore and enjoy the savings while getting similar performance from it compared to a typical FX octa-core processor.

ravenguard90

would this still be true if i was to say i don't want to overclock it?

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#14 ravenguard90
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Yes. Just take out the point of higher OC performance.

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#15 MuD3
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as others have said, you should get the 2500k instead and you don't really need water cooling. i chose a prefab water cooler for my most recent build just because i think they look a lot cleaner. i used the corsair h60, it is just as easy to install as any non liquid cooler. you can see pics in the rate my rig folder on first page if your curious only difference is i put a second fan on my radiator to improve case temps, it doesn't come with two.
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#16 kraken2109
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Coolermaster hyper 212+. Essentially same performance as most of those all in 1 water coolers for a quarter of the price.

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#17 superclocked
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I've ran my C2D e8400 @ 4.7GHz, my 560 Ti @1.1GHz, my 750i well past 2GHz.. If you build the liquid cooling system right, your computer and every replacement aferwards will be much faster than 99% of computers using the same PC components...
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#18 demi0227_basic
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You guys are too cute. Don't tell him to get the i5-2500k (mine is at 4.5 all day long) as he could get the i5-2400 and use the extra $40 on the video card. OP...you can thank me later. :)
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#19 demi0227_basic
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Sorry...forgot to mention that if he isn't going to oc, he might as well get the 2400...the extra 200hz aren't going to mean more than a few frames where the video card @ an extra 40 would be more beneficial.
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#20 GS550L
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Sorry...forgot to mention that if he isn't going to oc, he might as well get the 2400...the extra 200hz aren't going to mean more than a few frames where the video card @ an extra 40 would be more beneficial.demi0227_basic

Newegg has a deal on the i5-2500 which puts it at around $5 more than the i5-2400. If the TC is planning on purchasing the parts for his system within the next two days, it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up the 2500 instead for the frequency boost.

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#21 ionusX
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Lower power consumption, better IPC, higher performance potential when OC'ed, higher memory bandwidth... The list goes on. If you really want to go with an AMD processor, just find a Phenom II hexacore and enjoy the savings while getting similar performance from it compared to a typical FX octa-core processor.

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ah a phenom fx hexa wouldnt be bad either if the deal was right. i mean i can get one with 6gb ram and a mobo (gigabyte, 970x chipset, cfx support) for around $300 to use a meme:

anyway dont do watercooling unless you are overclocking and even then air is just as good most times. and dtay the ---- away from the fx8150 till they either plummet in price or if you must go amd get somehting.. anything else but a phenom fx 8-core. heck get a 1035t whoop the fx-4100's butt all over your home town

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#22 wewantdoom4now
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i wouldnt recommend watercoolers.

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#23 superclocked
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I'm inclined to disagree with the suggestions to get a 2400 or non K series 2500. I would get an i5-2500k and overclock it personally...
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#24 superclocked
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i wouldnt recommend watercoolers.

wewantdoom4now
Have you used one? The performance increases of my C2D and 560 Ti were very nice on liquid. I increased my CPU speed by 50%.. C2D e8400 - 3.0GHz stock C2D e8400 - 3.6GHz 24/7 running frequency on air (Scythe Mugen and 2x 130cfm fans) C2D e8400 - 4.5GHz 24/7 running frequency on liquid (D-Tek Fuzion II waterblock, dual 115v pumps, dual radiators) And the liquid cooling system will carry over into my future builds, so that makes it well worth the price IMO...
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#25 Nethemis
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[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"]

i wouldnt recommend watercoolers.

superclocked

Have you used one? The performance increases of my C2D and 560 Ti were very nice on liquid. I increased my CPU speed by 50%.. C2D e8400 - 3.0GHz stock C2D e8400 - 3.6GHz 24/7 running frequency on air (Scythe Mugen and 2x 130cfm fans) C2D e8400 - 4.5GHz 24/7 running frequency on liquid (D-Tek Fuzion II waterblock, dual 115v pumps, dual radiators) And the liquid cooling system will carry over into my future builds, so that makes it well worth the price IMO...

it honestly is the only thing i realy see replacing is the gpu block if the 680's are what they are supposed to be :).