How does the HD4850 Handle Crysis?

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#1 Chris_53
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at 1440X900 with High settings on XP and with the rest of my specs in my sig
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#2 Chris_53
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PS, how much better would it be over the 8800GT/GTS ?
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#3 SSJBen
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With or without AA?

If without, you can expect probably an average of 5-15 FPS boost depending on the location of the game.

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from anandtech:- high settings with shaders on very high.

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#5 Chris_53
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With or without AA?

If without, you can expect probably an average of 5-15 FPS boost depending on the location of the game.

SSJBen

with a HD4850 :S

It would be higher then that surely

EDIT

I miss read, would that be a 5-15fps bost from over the 8800GT?, becasue i may aswell get the 8800GT if thats the case.

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#6 RayvinAzn
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5-15FPS in Crysis can be the difference between playing the game and watching a slideshow.

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#7 GTR2addict
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5-15FPS in Crysis can be the difference between playing the game and watching a slideshow.

RayvinAzn

damn right... a 4850 handles the game fine, ive tested my new pc at the shop (had to, since they stress test the pc for free) Q6600, 4 gigs of ram, vista 64, and 4850, i got 40-50 fps with DX9 Very high tweak

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#8 RayvinAzn
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And as a side note, 4GB actually helps out quite a bit in the minimum frame-rate department. At least for Vista 64-bit - I'm not sure if it would be quite as beneficial on Windows XP.
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#9 Chris_53
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cool ok, so if the HD4850 handles the game well at 40fps, how does the 8800GT cope with it?
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#10 RayvinAzn
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cool ok, so if the HD4850 handles the game well at 40fps, how does the 8800GT cope with it?Chris_53

With AA enabled it'll probably be around 12FPS slower on average. Without AA the gap closes up a bit, most likely to around 8FPS. Approximate numbers of course.

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[QUOTE="Chris_53"]cool ok, so if the HD4850 handles the game well at 40fps, how does the 8800GT cope with it?RayvinAzn

With AA enabled it'll probably be around 12FPS slower on average. Without AA the gap closes up a bit, most likely to around 8FPS. Approximate numbers of course.

There is a benchmark posted above and it's 4FPS without AA.8800GT also overclocks better than 4850 so really not much a significant difference at all.Remember how ridiculously optimized crysis is for nvidia.
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[QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]

[QUOTE="Chris_53"]cool ok, so if the HD4850 handles the game well at 40fps, how does the 8800GT cope with it?Spybot_9

With AA enabled it'll probably be around 12FPS slower on average. Without AA the gap closes up a bit, most likely to around 8FPS. Approximate numbers of course.

There is a benchmark posted above and it's 4FPS without AA.8800GT also overclocks better than 4850 so really not much a significant difference at all.Remember how ridiculously optimized crysis is for nvidia.

so would 2 8800GTs SLI beat on a 4850?

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#13 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]

[QUOTE="Chris_53"]cool ok, so if the HD4850 handles the game well at 40fps, how does the 8800GT cope with it?lilburtonboy748

With AA enabled it'll probably be around 12FPS slower on average. Without AA the gap closes up a bit, most likely to around 8FPS. Approximate numbers of course.

There is a benchmark posted above and it's 4FPS without AA.8800GT also overclocks better than 4850 so really not much a significant difference at all.Remember how ridiculously optimized crysis is for nvidia.

so would 2 8800GTs SLI beat on a 4850?

8800GT SLI will beat a 4850 regardless of whether the game is nvidia optimized or not.
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#14 Larrymon2000
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8800GT SLI will beat quite a few of the new-gen cards.
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8800 gt alone is pretty damn goood. I have it. It goooood. Sli i bet it would be very good, or if you wanted to sli it in 6 months.
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#16 lilburtonboy748
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8800GT SLI will beat quite a few of the new-gen cards.Larrymon2000

really? well since i have 1, SLI is only 150.00

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#17 Larrymon2000
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Supposedly, an 8800GT in SLI has better average framerate than a GTX 260, but you should also consider micro-stuttering, and plus a single-card setup is preferable to multi-GPU (IMO). Of course, since you do have that 8800GT, no point in letting it go to waste.
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#18 RayvinAzn
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Supposedly, an 8800GT in SLI has better average framerate than a GTX 260, but you should also consider micro-stuttering, and plus a single-card setup is preferable to multi-GPU (IMO). Of course, since you do have that 8800GT, no point in letting it go to waste.Larrymon2000

No point in upgrading it either, to be honest.

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#19 kudols
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at 1440X900 with High settings on XP and with the rest of my specs in my sigChris_53

Though my monitor doesn't support 1440X900, my HD4850 averages 41 FPS at 1280X1024, which is only slightly lower than 1440X900. (No AA applied)

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[QUOTE="Chris_53"]at 1440X900 with High settings on XP and with the rest of my specs in my sigkudols

Though my monitor doesn't support 1440X900, my HD4850 averages 41 FPS at 1280X1024, which is only slightly lower than 1440X900. (No AA applied)

Thats it? my 8800GT at 1280x1024 averages 45fps.

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#21 Larrymon2000
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He might have a less powerful cpu, since I've heard that Crysis is more dependent on the CPU than these games usually are. Plus yours might have a very large OC. In general, the 4850 should surpass the 8800GT by quite a bit, assuming identical test environment.
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#22 04dcarraher
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My Cpu is at stock speed 3GHz and my 8800GT is only oc'ed to 660/1650/1950 not very much of a overclock, but ya his Cpu might be slower.
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#23 kudols
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My Cpu is at stock speed 3GHz and my 8800GT is only oc'ed to 660/1650/1950 not very much of a overclock, but ya his Cpu might be slower.04dcarraher

My CPU isn't much slower, I have a Q6600 at 2.8 GHz and the HD4850 is at stock speed. I think it's just because there are still no offical drivers supporting the 4850. Were you running the benchmark that came with Crysis to determine your FPS?

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#24 Taiko88
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at 1440X900 with High settings on XP and with the rest of my specs in my sigChris_53

Nope, the video card will explode in a ball of fire, while burning your computer down, and demons will fly out. So be careful.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]My Cpu is at stock speed 3GHz and my 8800GT is only oc'ed to 660/1650/1950 not very much of a overclock, but ya his Cpu might be slower.kudols

My CPU isn't much slower, I have a Q6600 at 2.8 GHz and the HD4850 is at stock speed. I think it's just because there are still no offical drivers supporting the 4850. Were you running the benchmark that came with Crysis to determine your FPS?

Ive used Fraps,Xfire,Crysis benchmark and What Ive seen while playing.

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#26 Elann2008
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I could have sworn I've seen better benchmarks with the HD4870. A 9800GX2 is still better than a GTX280 and HD4870? Hmm.. I understand a 9800GX2 is a dual-GPU but man.. that thing is a monster when it comes to Crysis. I've always liked that card. ;) Although, I like the HD4870, more. :P
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#28 lilburtonboy748
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He might have a less powerful cpu, since I've heard that Crysis is more dependent on the CPU than these games usually are. Plus yours might have a very large OC. In general, the 4850 should surpass the 8800GT by quite a bit, assuming identical test environment.Larrymon2000

CPU is important in crysis? maybe thats why it studders when i blow up buildings....i only have a amd 4800+

but either way, im buying the Q9300 next week, so will that give me better performance?

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[QUOTE="kudols"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]My Cpu is at stock speed 3GHz and my 8800GT is only oc'ed to 660/1650/1950 not very much of a overclock, but ya his Cpu might be slower.04dcarraher

My CPU isn't much slower, I have a Q6600 at 2.8 GHz and the HD4850 is at stock speed. I think it's just because there are still no offical drivers supporting the 4850. Were you running the benchmark that came with Crysis to determine your FPS?

Ive used Fraps,Xfire,Crysis benchmark and What Ive seen while playing.

Odd, I searched the internet for a bit and found that some people averaged 47 fps on a 4850 while others averaged 41 fps. I might try and overclock my cpu to 3.0 GHz to see if that makes any difference, but I still think it is probably just because the 4850's are in need of good drivers.

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#30 matrixian
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Odd, I searched the internet for a bit and found that some people averaged 47 fps on a 4850 while others averaged 41 fps.

kudols

There's a difference between looking at what Fraps displays and using the Crysis benchmark. People's ego tend to over-estimate what average fps they see on the screen. ;)

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[QUOTE="Chris_53"]at 1440X900 with High settings on XP and with the rest of my specs in my sigkudols

Though my monitor doesn't support 1440X900, my HD4850 averages 41 FPS at 1280X1024, which is only slightly lower than 1440X900. (No AA applied)

1440x900 is lower then 1280x1024

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#32 CreasianDevaili
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If your into crysis alot i would suggest nvidia for your gpu. Its reality sadly.

My 2x 4870 CF only gets about 68 FPS average in the benchmark 1280x1024 no AA all/high

1680x1050 4x AA is 39fps all/high

1920x1200 no AA is 51fps average all/high

1920x1200 4xaa is 32fps average all/high

While gaming on the demo with the console FPS command, not FRAPS, I was getting above the demo average most of the time on the beach area even during fighting. Overall it is good.. but could be better yes. Crysis just likes nvidia better.

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a hd 4850 has the same performane with 9800GTX
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[QUOTE="kudols"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]My Cpu is at stock speed 3GHz and my 8800GT is only oc'ed to 660/1650/1950 not very much of a overclock, but ya his Cpu might be slower.04dcarraher

My CPU isn't much slower, I have a Q6600 at 2.8 GHz and the HD4850 is at stock speed. I think it's just because there are still no offical drivers supporting the 4850. Were you running the benchmark that came with Crysis to determine your FPS?

Ive used Fraps,Xfire,Crysis benchmark and What Ive seen while playing.

And that is how you came up with that number?:?

I dont know why people go on comparing crysis FPS numbers and will try to work out why there PC is slow when they dont even know exactly what settings and AA the other guy is running let alone his basis for calculating the average FPS.:lol:

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People still trying to play this game......
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#36 Chris_53
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If Crysis is more optimised for nVidia, then arnt I better off getting the 8800GT?

Also id be saving money and the 8800GT ran run pretty much every other game with ease cant it?

I dont plan on getting SLI and my motherboard doesnt support crossfire.

However if in a few months time i decided to add another 8800GT for SLI, would I get much benefit at 1440X900 and also would my 600W OCZ StealthXtreme PSU handle it?

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#37 Chris_53
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If Crysis is optimised for nVidia, then arnt I better off getting the 8800GT?

also ive read that the HD4850 has bad heat issues and im not prepared to buy an aftermarket cooler.

If i get the 8800GT, what fps can i expect with an AMD X2 5600+ at 2.9GHz

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If Crysis is optimised for nVidia, then arnt I better off getting the 8800GT?

also ive read that the HD4850 has bad heat issues and im not prepared to buy an aftermarket cooler.

If i get the 8800GT, what fps can i expect with an AMD X2 5600+ at 2.9GHz

Chris_53

You Fps should be around like mine 40's average.

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i have the HD4850, with 3 GB of ram. the game runs smooth at 60 FPS with no antialiasing, and specs on medium.
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#40 Chris_53
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OMG

Well I have just found this 8800GTX

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-100-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=877&name=XFX%20GeForce%208800%20GTX%20XXX%20768MB%20GDDR3%20HDTV/Dual%20DVI%20(PCI-Express)%20-%20Retail%20(PV-T80F-SHD9)

Would this be a good choice?

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#41 matrixian
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OMG

Well I have just found this 8800GTX

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-100-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=877&name=XFX%20GeForce%208800%20GTX%20XXX%20768MB%20GDDR3%20HDTV/Dual%20DVI%20(PCI-Express)%20-%20Retail%20(PV-T80F-SHD9)

Would this be a good choice?

Chris_53

The Asus HD4850 is only £7 more and is faster than the 8800GTX, including Crysis.

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#42 Chris_53
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Does the Asus HD4850 come with Crysis?
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#43 Spybot_9
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No it doesnt so basically it's 7 pounds+the price of crysis for the 4850 which isnt that much better than 8800GTX.

But the decision is yours.If you can buy crysis separately I say go for the 4850.

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#44 matrixian
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Does the Asus HD4850 come with Crysis?Chris_53

No.

Btw I found a Gainward HD4850 for £94.99.

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#45 Chris_53
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Thanks, are Gainward any good?, with ATI i tend to go for Powercooler or Saphire
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#46 zxvb
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i see someone said crysis is "cpu dependent". well, would my e6600 bottleneck an hd 4870 (both at stock speeds).
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i see someone said crysis is "cpu dependent". well, would my e6600 bottleneck an hd 4870 (both at stock speeds).zxvb
No.
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#48 Chris_53
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right, one more question

with the 4850 and even the 8800GT for that matter, how long to you thinkit ll be before i need to upgrade again?

thanks

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#49 bike749
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The Best Mid Range Video Card is 4850.
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#50 Spybot_9
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right, one more question

with the 4850 and even the 8800GT for that matter, how long to you thinkit ll be before i need to upgrade again?

thanks

Chris_53

Too broad a question for me to answer as it depends on resolution and your standards and the fact that I dont know the requirements of future games.

Anyways I would make a braod guess and say if you play in lower res and arent an elitist than you should be fine atleast till a next console arrives.