How good is water cooling?

1.So realy how much better is water cooling than air cooling with like a xiggy hdt s1283? If I could get my e8400 to 3.6, what would you estimate I would get with water?

2.How much is a good water cooling system

3.what are all the parts? All I know is the cpu/gpu block to get it to the parts, the pump, the radiator, and chipset block. Is that it?

4.What are some good brands?

Realy I don't know anything about water cooling.

Swiftech H20-220 is a good starter kit risc-vs-cisc

Also going past 3GHz is a waste.To get your best performance out of OC'ing download crysis benchmark and keep a record of your min-FPS, max-FPS,and average-FPS if you are already @3.6 drop it down to 3 or as close as possible 3.1 etc by only using the CPU multiplier.This will show you that it's not worth OC'ing that high because it's the FSB and GPU that you need to pay more attention to and ram on Intel MB because you cant unlink the ram like you can with a Nforce MB and 1 or 2 FPS is within the margin of error and you can duplicate this by running multiple tests.risc-vs-cisc

Water and electronics dont mix. FunkyHeadHunter

[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]Water and electronics dont mix. markop2003

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]Water and electronics dont mix. GTR2addict

NoOOoooooooREAaallllyyyyy???....Like I dont know that. Anytime you have "tubing" "water,COOLENT" "pumps" ect anything can and WILL happen. Its my opinion that its just not worth a couple degrees cooler.

you dont buy a premade watercooling kit their useless, their tubing is shoddy and the radiators generally arent the best... the best is a custom built loop with: - Swiftech apogee GTZ / D-Tek fuzion V2 CPU waterblock - Danger den OR custom tubing -swiftech or EK rads -danger den pump and if you watercool your cards, danger den or EK waterblocks not to mention a quad nozzle if youre watercooling a CPU[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]Also going past 3GHz is a waste.To get your best performance out of OC'ing download crysis benchmarkand keep a record of your min-FPS, max-FPS,and average-FPS if you are already @3.6 drop it down to 3 or as close as possible 3.1 etc by only using the CPU multiplier.This will show you that it's not worth OC'ing that high because it's the FSB and GPU that you need to pay more attention to and ram on Intel MB because you cant unlink the ram like you can with a Nforce MB and 1 or 2 FPS is within the margin of error and you can duplicate this by running multiple tests.GTR2addict

You obviously don't have a clue and you can find out by running this test your self this well known by all overclockers who have experience and i would like to see you prove me wrong.Going past 3GHz will only raise your minFPS and this is because of the FSB increase that's it so why keep your CPU @3.6 when you can drop it by using the multi and focus on a high FSB and OC the GPU .You should stop giving advice about things you clearly dont understand.,and the Swiftech H20-220 Apex is a high quality kit and is well known.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]you dont buy a premade watercooling kit their useless, their tubing is shoddy and the radiators generally arent the best... the best is a custom built loop with: - Swiftech apogee GTZ / D-Tek fuzion V2 CPU waterblock - Danger den OR custom tubing -swiftech or EK rads -danger den pump and if you watercool your cards, danger den or EK waterblocks not to mention a quad nozzle if youre watercooling a CPU[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]Also going past 3GHz is a waste.To get your best performance out of OC'ing download crysis benchmarkand keep a record of your min-FPS, max-FPS,and average-FPS if you are already @3.6 drop it down to 3 or as close as possible 3.1 etc by only using the CPU multiplier.This will show you that it's not worth OC'ing that high because it's the FSB and GPU that you need to pay more attention to and ram on Intel MB because you cant unlink the ram like you can with a Nforce MB and 1 or 2 FPS is within the margin of error and you can duplicate this by running multiple tests.risc-vs-cisc

You obviously don't have a clue and you can find out by running this test your self this well known by all overclockers who have experience and i would like to see you prove me wrong.Going past 3GHz will only raise your minFPS and this is because of the FSB increase that's it so why keep your CPU @3.6 when you can drop it by using the multi and focus on a high FSB and OC the GPU .You should stop giving advice about things you clearly dont understand.,and the Swiftech H20-220 Apex is a high quality kit and is well known.

dont you think ive done that? overclock.net is full of ppl who say that... yet i dont see it, at 3.6 my Q6600 is flying when compared to 3 GHz GTR2addict

Keep your FSB just as high or higher and just lower the multiplier.

And they don't just say it they prove it with pics.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]dont you think ive done that? overclock.net is full of ppl who say that... yet i dont see it, at 3.6 my Q6600 is flying when compared to 3 GHz risc-vs-cisc

Keep your FSB just as high or higher and just lower the multiplier.

[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]dont you think ive done that? overclock.net is full of ppl who say that... yet i dont see it, at 3.6 my Q6600 is flying when compared to 3 GHz GTR2addict

Keep your FSB just as high or higher and just lower the multiplier.

LOL i hope you don't kill your system with that is it stable and with good temps.

EDIT: Oh I guess I read that wrong nvm

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]

Keep your FSB just as high or higher and just lower the multiplier.

risc-vs-cisc

LOL i hope you don't kill your system with that is it stable and with good temps.

its surprisingly stable, but apparently, higher fsb = higher temps... at 7x my laods are 70/69/69/71, not good

[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] youve just killed it :lol: 3.6 GHz with 7x mutli (my P35 is freakin amazing O.o) DOES do a bit more than with 9xGTR2addict

LOL i hope you don't kill your system with that is it stable and with good temps.

its surprisingly stable, but apparently, higher fsb = higher temps... at 7x my laods are 70/69/69/71, not good

[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] youve just killed it :lol: 3.6 GHz with 7x mutli (my P35 is freakin amazing O.o) DOES do a bit more than with 9xGTR2addict

LOL i hope you don't kill your system with that is it stable and with good temps.

its surprisingly stable, but apparently, higher fsb = higher temps... at 7x my laods are 70/69/69/71, not good

My god whats your FSB @ by my calculation's you are @ 515 or 2060 which is amazing and hot as hell.

3.16ghz 9.5x
2009-01-12 20:28:29 - iw3sp
Frames: 795 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 53.000 - Min: 49 - Max: 57

2009-01-12 20:29:23 - Oblivion
Frames: 1471 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 98.067 - Min: 81 - Max: 105

3.16 8x
2009-01-12 20:36:47 - iw3sp
Frames: 826 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 55.067 - Min: 50 - Max: 57

2009-01-12 20:37:46 - Oblivion
Frames: 1486 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 99.067 - Min: 85 - Max: 105

i even lowered the ram mhz on the 8x test. it still came out on top. no wonder i saw high frequency a waste.

1.So realy how much better is water cooling than air cooling with like a xiggy hdt s1283? If I could get my e8400 to 3.6, what would you estimate I would get with water?

mattpunkgd

If you are going to spend on water cooling, you may as well sell that dual core and get a quad core right now. I7 is good.

[QUOTE="mattpunkgd"]

1.So realy how much better is water cooling than air cooling with like a xiggy hdt s1283? If I could get my e8400 to 3.6, what would you estimate I would get with water?

teddyrob

If you are going to spend on water cooling, you may as well sell that dual core and get a quad core right now. I7 is good.

3.16ghz 9.5x
2009-01-12 20:28:29 - iw3sp
Frames: 795 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 53.000 - Min: 49 - Max: 57

2009-01-12 20:29:23 - Oblivion
Frames: 1471 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 98.067 - Min: 81 - Max: 105

3.16 8x
2009-01-12 20:36:47 - iw3sp
Frames: 826 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 55.067 - Min: 50 - Max: 57

2009-01-12 20:37:46 - Oblivion
Frames: 1486 - Time: 15000ms - Avg: 99.067 - Min: 85 - Max: 105

i even lowered the ram mhz on the 8x test. it still came out on top. no wonder i saw high frequency a waste.

beex215

You know your too crazy about computers when your computer is cooled by liquid...

Swiftech H20-220 is a good starter kit risc-vs-cisc

Thats expensive for a starter kit. I'd hate to see the price for the best stuff.

[QUOTE="risc-vs-cisc"]Swiftech H20-220 is a good starter kit Big_Bad_Sad

Thats expensive for a starter kit. I'd hate to see the price for the best stuff.