How is a GTX 460 SE?

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#1 Lox_Cropek
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I have a friend going to the USA in a few months and he told me that he could buy stuff for me if i wanted to (anything in the USA is so much cheaper than anything here). I'm thinking about buying a GPU. And i looked at some prices and places and i'm looking at a GTX 460. How is the card? Max settings on modern games? Will still be able to keep up with future releases? And how big would be the improvement coming from a 9800 GT?

Edit: My resolution is 1600x900 btw

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#2 swehunt
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I have a friend going to the USA in a few months and he told me that he could buy stuff for me if i wanted to (anything in the USA is so much cheaper than anything here). I'm thinking about buying a GPU. And i looked at some prices and places and i'm looking at a GTX 460. How is the card? Max settings on modern games? Will still be able to keep up with future releases? And how big would be the improvement coming from a 9800 GT?

Edit: My resolution is 1600x900 btw

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At shy 1600*900 you should be able to play just fine getting good frames in the games that have been anounced yet, if you dont need AA/AF the card should play games for a good time ahead.

If you have the founds and will to spend a little more the gtx560 ti/HD6950 is a good buy that will live longer and fita bit better to the "keep up with future releases" question.

The gtx460 is a much better card than the 88/98gt wouldn't surprice me if it beat out two of those SLI'ed in just about anything.

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Thanks for the answer, i really appreciate it.

But i would like to know a little more: How much bigger is a GTX 460 compared to my 9800 GT? (Trying to see if it would fit...). Is it hotter than the 9800? In your opinion, do you think it's worth it? (i chose this card because i'm trying to spend as little as possible while having a good improvement that will be noticeable)

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It should be a decent upgrade. Note that there are three different official versions of the GTX 460, a 1 GB, a 768 MB and a 1 GB SE. The 768 GB and SE versions offer somewhat lower performance than the 1 GB non-SE.

I don't think I'd bother importing electronics like that, unless your current habitat is in the digital dark age you could probably find your wares as cheap in a local internet store as in an American retail.

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It should be a decent upgrade. Note that there are three different official versions of the GTX 460, a 1 GB, a 768 MB and a 1 GB SE. The 768 GB and SE versions offer somewhat lower performance than the 1 GB non-SE.

I don't think I'd bother importing electronics like that, unless your current habitat is in the digital dark age you could probably find your wares as cheap in a local internet store as in an American retail.

eBusiness

A GTX 460 costs MUCH more here, and with MUCH more i mean around 4-5 times the price outside

Also, the version i was looking at is the 1 GB SE version. Is the lower perfomance noticeable compared to the Non-SE?

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#6 swehunt
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Thanks for the answer, i really appreciate it.

But i would like to know a little more: How much bigger is a GTX 460 compared to my 9800 GT? (Trying to see if it would fit...). Is it hotter than the 9800? In your opinion, do you think it's worth it? (i chose this card because i'm trying to spend as little as possible while having a good improvement that will be noticeable)

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No problem. :) The size of a gtx460 vary as there are many different cards out, the refference card (and 99% of the non-ref.) is actually one really small card, not even the biggest of the gtx460 will be longer than the 8800gt/9800gt refference. It does use up two card slots in thikness. If it's worth it?, that leads to a question if you are getting bad framerate drops in the games you play?, if it already feels smooth getting a better graphic card wont be noticeable. And the opposite can ofc. also be said if you experiency a choppy framerate with many dips you'll gain a fluedly gameplay witch is what you aim to get when you upgrade. A jump from a 9800gt to a gtx460 is just about as small upgrade i could agree to be worth it, but the gtx460 is also getting older by the minute compared to how quickly we get faster hardware, but if the rest of your PC is composed by stuff from the 9800gt era or even older i'm sure it's not that many years before you feel the need to exchange it out compleatly.
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#7 swehunt
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[QUOTE="eBusiness"]

It should be a decent upgrade. Note that there are three different official versions of the GTX 460, a 1 GB, a 768 MB and a 1 GB SE. The 768 GB and SE versions offer somewhat lower performance than the 1 GB non-SE.

I don't think I'd bother importing electronics like that, unless your current habitat is in the digital dark age you could probably find your wares as cheap in a local internet store as in an American retail.

Lox_Cropek

A GTX 460 costs MUCH more here, and with MUCH more i mean around 4-5 times the price outside

Also, the version i was looking at is the 1 GB SE version. Is the lower perfomance noticeable compared to the Non-SE?

Don't buy the SE version, it's the stupid edition, performs a fair bit less than the 768mb one. The 1GB or the 768Mb, dont go with the SE if it's not like $40 cheaper.
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#8 Lox_Cropek
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[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

Thanks for the answer, i really appreciate it.

But i would like to know a little more: How much bigger is a GTX 460 compared to my 9800 GT? (Trying to see if it would fit...). Is it hotter than the 9800? In your opinion, do you think it's worth it? (i chose this card because i'm trying to spend as little as possible while having a good improvement that will be noticeable)

swehunt

No problem. :) The size of a gtx460 vary as there are many different cards out, the refference card (and 99% of the non-ref.) is actually one really small card, not even the biggest of the gtx460 will be longer than the 8800gt/9800gt refference. It does use up two card slots in thikness. If it's worth it?, that leads to a question if you are getting bad framerate drops in the games you play?, if it already feels smooth getting a better graphic card wont be noticeable. And the opposite can ofc. also be said if you experiency a choppy framerate with many dips you'll gain a fluedly gameplay witch is what you aim to get when you upgrade. A jump from a 9800gt to a gtx460 is just about as small upgrade i could agree to be worth it, but the gtx460 is also getting older by the minute compared to how quickly we get faster hardware, but if the rest of your PC is composed by stuff from the 9800gt era or even older i'm sure it's not that many years before you feel the need to exchange it out compleatly.

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Windows 7 64-bit

Core 2 Quad Q6600

4 GB RAM

Edit: My friend found the SE version $35 cheaper than the standard 1 GB version (he didn't have time to do much searching though)

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#10 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]A GTX 460 costs MUCH more here, and with MUCH more i mean around 4-5 times the price outside

Also, the version i was looking at is the 1 GB SE version. Is the lower perfomance noticeable compared to the Non-SE?

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Don't buy the SE version, it's the stupid edition, performs a fair bit less than the 768mb one. The 1GB or the 768Mb, dont go with the SE if it's not like $40 cheaper.

He found it for $35 less than the standard versions

$35 cheaper than the 768mb version? 768MB>1GB SE

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[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="swehunt"] Don't buy the SE version, it's the stupid edition, performs a fair bit less than the 768mb one. The 1GB or the 768Mb, dont go with the SE if it's not like $40 cheaper.swehunt

He found it for $35 less than the standard versions

$35 cheaper than the 768mb version? 768MB>1GB SE

I didn't ask him about a 768 MB version. Just the SE and the standard. The SE was $35 cheaper than the standard 1 GB version

Also, the rest of my rig is in the above post

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[QUOTE="eBusiness"]

It should be a decent upgrade. Note that there are three different official versions of the GTX 460, a 1 GB, a 768 MB and a 1 GB SE. The 768 GB and SE versions offer somewhat lower performance than the 1 GB non-SE.

I don't think I'd bother importing electronics like that, unless your current habitat is in the digital dark age you could probably find your wares as cheap in a local internet store as in an American retail.

Lox_Cropek

A GTX 460 costs MUCH more here, and with MUCH more i mean around 4-5 times the price outside

Also, the version i was looking at is the 1 GB SE version. Is the lower perfomance noticeable compared to the Non-SE?

SE is definitely the weakest of the bunch. You can heavily Oc it match a regular 768Mb 460, but its not worth it. Evga has the 768MB GTX 460 on their online store for 90 bucks right now. Its B-Stock, so its open-box/refurbed with the standard 90-day warrenty.

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The GTX460 is great. I got mine just after the price drop on them, and I run most new games in 1920x1080 and max settings, and I get an average of about 30 to 40 (about 1 year old games get around 60) fps. So I would say that I am very happy with this card.

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#14 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"]

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]He found it for $35 less than the standard versions

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$35 cheaper than the 768mb version? 768MB>1GB SE

I didn't ask him about a 768 MB version. Just the SE and the standard. The SE was $35 cheaper than the standard 1 GB version

Also, the rest of my rig is in the above post

The rest of the spec.(2.4ghz quadcore is actually a bit slow but with a small OC it still manage fine) should do fine with the gtx460 for some time ahead. I would reccomend you getting the gtx460 768mb version of the simple expl. that you game at a 1600*900 resolution, the 768mb version is on average only 3-6% slower than the 1GB in this resolution but can be found for a better price than the SE, the 1GB SE is often a bit slower in this resolution than the other two gtx460 (768, 1GB) as it dont have the full GPU of a gtx460 (gf104 336cores) but it manage to take back some of it's cripple at resolutions you wouldnt run with it. (above 1980*1080)
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[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="swehunt"] $35 cheaper than the 768mb version? 768MB>1GB SE

swehunt

I didn't ask him about a 768 MB version. Just the SE and the standard. The SE was $35 cheaper than the standard 1 GB version

Also, the rest of my rig is in the above post

The rest of the spec.(2.4ghz quadcore is actually a bit slow but with a small OC it still manage fine) should do fine with the gtx460 for some time ahead. I would reccomend you getting the gtx460 768mb version of the simple expl. that you game at a 1600*900 resolution, the 768mb version is on average only 3-6% slower than the 1GB in this resolution but can be found for a better price than the SE, the 1GB SE is often a bit slower in this resolution than the other two gtx460 (768, 1GB) as it dont have the full GPU of a gtx460 (gf104 336cores) but it manage to take back some of it's cripple at resolutions you wouldnt run with it. (above 1980*1080)

Its overclocked to 2.8 GHz. Also, about the performance you talked about, i'm upgrading because i can max every game i have fine, but performance is a little disappointing (25-40 FPS), i'm one of those guys that can't give up their AA for anything :P Hey swehunt, thank you! You helped me alot. I'm going to consider the other versions, but my buddy will be busy and won't have much time to search, but if he finds it, i'll maybe go for it. Thank you :D

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for the orice of a 460 SE you can get the better 6790 or the 5830 EE from sapphire.

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#17 BattleSpectre
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My GTX 460 manages 1080p beautifully. I recommend it.