How much RAM is sensible?

Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.rogerjak

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.daytona_178

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.daytona_178

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

Anyways i will get 4GB in a few days and will see what happens with crysis in vista.

[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.daytona_178

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

I had to replace 2 of my 4 GB's of RAM and I can tell you I noticed the difference while I was down to 2GB's. More in Supreme Commander than anywhere else, surprise, surprise.

I didn't play Crysis that much, but I think it ran a little choppier on 2 GB's.

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[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.Thinker_145

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

Anyways i will get 4GB in a few days and will see what happens with crysis in vista.

Going from 2 to 4gig of ram will not improve your fps as such,but I saw a noticeable improvement in load times and reduction in "stuttering" you sometimes get in games when the computer has to load a new part of the level,or when you enter a new room etc.

It depends if you want to spend the money.Because the difference isn't earth-shattering,but it is noticeably "smoother" in most games I've played.

Going from 2 to 4gig of ram will not improve your fps as such,but I saw a noticeable improvement in load times and reduction in "stuttering" you sometimes get in games when the computer has to load a new part of the level,or when you enter a new room etc.

It depends if you want to spend the money.Because the difference isn't earth-shattering,but it is noticeably "smoother" in most games I've played.

stvee101

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Going from 2 to 4gig of ram will not improve your fps as such,but I saw a noticeable improvement in load times and reduction in "stuttering" you sometimes get in games when the computer has to load a new part of the level,or when you enter a new room etc.

It depends if you want to spend the money.Because the difference isn't earth-shattering,but it is noticeably "smoother" in most games I've played.

Thinker_145

Yeah,adding the extra 2gig does make a difference,especially in company of heroes where I had 2gig and it took an age to load,and when the level was loaded you could tell the comp was still loading stuff in for a little while after, and it would be quite jerky and annoying for the first 30 secs or so.

Added the extra ram and these problems have dissapeared completely.

I would say that 4gig is gonna become the "sweet spot" as far as ram goes in a little while,especially in Vista.

Well I was planning on just getting 2gb for now (since i'm having it built by a company). Then i'll just upgrade and buy it myself to save money. Especially since ram is so easy to install. I'll just buy more ram from newegg and add it to my board.

Do both types of PC2-6400 and PC-6400 ram work together, or you have to have all of one type of ram? I'm getting PC6400 DDR2/800 Mushkin 2GB. My Mother board is a Asus M3a32-MVP Deluxe. How would you suggest I upgrade my ram?

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[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.Riki101

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

I sue 2GB's and get 100FPS's!

[QUOTE="Riki101"][QUOTE="daytona_178"]

[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.daytona_178

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

I sue 2GB's and get 100FPS's!

However i dont have 4GB so i dont know how much affect it actually has in the smoothness in vista.I'll get more RAM in a few days though and will let you know about the crysis performance.There is no excuse for an enthusiast gamer to be short on RAM.

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[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.Thinker_145

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

I sue 2GB's and get 100FPS's!

However i dont have 4GB so i dont know how much affect it actually has in the smoothness in vista.I'll get more RAM in a few days though and will let you know about the crysis performance.There is no excuse for an enthusiast gamer to be short on RAM.

whats the difference between "smoothness" and frames per second?

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="Riki101"][QUOTE="daytona_178"]

[QUOTE="rogerjak"]Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.daytona_178

2GB's is enough for Crysis,,,enough said!

I sue 2GB's and get 100FPS's!

However i dont have 4GB so i dont know how much affect it actually has in the smoothness in vista.I'll get more RAM in a few days though and will let you know about the crysis performance.There is no excuse for an enthusiast gamer to be short on RAM.

whats the difference between "smoothness" and frames per second?

at this time you probibly would never surpass 2gb but I do notice an increse of ram dependancy on my new programs and games, I would have to guess thst 4gb will be the medium at late 2008

remember that vista 32 bit doesn't recognize much past 3 gigs. i had this problem myself (i have 3 gig) and i questioned getting another 512 stick but after running crysis and having it run smoothly i figured the 3 gigs i got should be adequate for awhile (im not spending $200 + dollars on an OS just so i can buy some more ram and get a slightly smoother gameplay experience) z4twenny

I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Ibrahim17

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Taiko88

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

[QUOTE="Taiko88"]

[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Thinker_145

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Taiko88

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

Thank you for answering me.

Can someone please respond to me concerning what kind of RAM can be used together? For example can PC2-6400 RAM run with PC-6400 or are they incompatible. What about sticks of RAM. If I have two separate sticks of RAM (1gb pc-6400 ddr2-800 duel channel) do I have to buy the same kind of RAM for compatability. Or can I buy a single stick of 2gb pc-6400 ddr2-800 duel channel instead of a 2x1gb.

Depends. If you want it for gaming get 4GB. More RAM will never hurt.rogerjak

The performance increase of having 4gigs for gaming will be little if any, no game really requires you to have 4gigs of ram, 2gigs is fine for xp, 3 gigs is good to.

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[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Ibrahim17

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

Thank you for answering me.

Can someone please respond to me concerning what kind of RAM can be used together? For example can PC2-6400 RAM run with PC-6400 or are they incompatible. What about sticks of RAM. If I have two separate sticks of RAM (1gb pc-6400 ddr2-800 duel channel) do I have to buy the same kind of RAM for compatability. Or can I buy a single stick of 2gb pc-6400 ddr2-800 duel channel instead of a 2x1gb.

PC2 6400 is no is not compatible with PC6400, in-fact they don't even fit into the same slots, PC2 6400 is DDR2, PC6400 is DDR, don't even try putting PC6400 ram into your motherboard cause I'm guessing it supports DDR2 ram so the PC6400 ram will simply not fit.

PC2 6400 is no is not compatible with PC6400, in-fact they don't even fit into the same slots, PC2 6400 is DDR2, PC6400 is DDR, don't even try putting PC6400 ram into your motherboard cause I'm guessing it supports DDR2 ram so the PC6400 ram will simply not fit.

Ok, i got confused before, but I understand now. Anyhow, I believe they are putting two separate sticks of RAM into my pc, 2 x 1gb Mushkin PC2-6400 DDR2-800 Dual Channel. so i'll have 2gb of ram. After I recieve the computer, i'm going toupgrade it at some point, so can I add one stick of 2gb of the same ram, or does it have to be the same amount of ram(1GB)?

PC2 6400 is no is not compatible with PC6400, in-fact they don't even fit into the same slots, PC2 6400 is DDR2, PC6400 is DDR, don't even try putting PC6400 ram into your motherboard cause I'm guessing it supports DDR2 ram so the PC6400 ram will simply not fit.

Ibrahim17

Ok, i got confused before, but I understand now. Anyhow, I believe they are putting two separate sticks of RAM into my pc, 2 x 1gb Mushkin PC2-6400 DDR2-800 Dual Channel. so i'll have 2gb of ram. After I recieve the computer, i'm going toupgrade it at some point, so can I add one stick of 2gb of the same ram, or does it have to be the same amount of ram(1GB)?

Putting a 2gig stick of ram in will be fine, but i dont think you will be able to put it in dual channel with a 1 gig ram stick, I'm not sure though but i think that's right. Its not that important though since you can have your 2 1gigs in dual channel and than add the 2gig stick and it will be fine.

Well I could add 4gb's with two sticks, each 2gb. That would be compatible, and work with dual-channel. By the way, does duel-channel automatically run itself, or do you have to configure it yourself?Ibrahim17

From what I've seen, dual-channel will turn itself on automatically if you attach the ram sticks into the right slots.

Well I could add 4gb's with two sticks, each 2gb. That would be compatible, and work with dual-channel. By the way, does duel-channel automatically run itself, or do you have to configure it yourself?Ibrahim17

Its automatic, you just need to put them in the right slots, one in slot A1 and one in slot B1, or slot A2 and B2. If your confused just look in your motherboard manual. Its really simple because its colour-coded, just have both sticks of ram you wont to run in dual channel on the same coloured slot.

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[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Thinker_145

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

And since when do games need 128GB of RAM? Unless you are using those high end video cards that cost 4000$ a piece for model design, and other stuff. I'm pretty sure games don't use it either. Max a game uses is 3GB (Assassin's Creed PC). Oh well.

[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Taiko88

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

[QUOTE="Taiko88"]

[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?itsme185

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

if you want to buy 4 gig of ram your motherboard must support it !

and that motherboards are too expensive ! it is not really nesesery to buy that !

if you want to buy 4 gig of ram your motherboard must support it !

and that motherboards are too expensive ! it is not really nesesery to buy that !

diako_lorddm

Ignore this comment!

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if you want to buy 4 gig of ram your motherboard must support it !

and that motherboards are too expensive ! it is not really nesesery to buy that !

daytona_178

Ignore this comment!

why ? 2 gigs of ram can suport atleast every new games untill 2010

[QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="diako_lorddm"]

if you want to buy 4 gig of ram your motherboard must support it !

and that motherboards are too expensive ! it is not really nesesery to buy that !

diako_lorddm

Ignore this comment!

why ? 2 gigs of ram can suport atleast every new games untill 2010

you said that motherboards that support 4GB's of RAM is expensive! And thats a load of garbage. Nearly all motherboards (including dirt cheap ones) support 4GB's RAM.

[QUOTE="diako_lorddm"][QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="diako_lorddm"]

if you want to buy 4 gig of ram your motherboard must support it !

and that motherboards are too expensive ! it is not really nesesery to buy that !

daytona_178

Ignore this comment!

why ? 2 gigs of ram can suport atleast every new games untill 2010

you said that motherboards that support 4GB's of RAM is expensive! And thats a load of garbage. Nearly all motherboards (including dirt cheap ones) support 4GB's RAM.

I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?Ibrahim17

Well what I am about to tell you should keep everyone quiet and should help make your decision. I hate when people think they know what they are talking about but have no proof or anything to back it up with.

Assasins Creed for PC came out with its Recommended Specifications. 3GB OF RAM.

I would recommend having 4 GB of ram, who knows what games at the end of the year will recommend or use.

See below what Ubisoft released.

- Supported OS: Windows XP / Vista (only)
- Processor: Dual core processor 2.6 GHz Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ or better recommended)
- RAM: 2 GB (3 GB recommended)
- Video Card: 256 MB DirectX 10.0-compliant video card or DirectX 9.0-compliant card with Shader Model 3.0 or higher (512 MB video card recommended) (see supported list)*
- Sound Card: DirectX 9.0 or 10.0 compliant sound card (5.1 sound card recommended)
- DirectX Version: DirectX 10.0 libraries (included on disc)
- DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM dual-layer drive
- Hard Drive Space: 12 GB
- Peripherals Supported: Keyboard, mouse, optional controller (Xbox 360 Controller for Windows recommended)

[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?NismoNissan41

Well what I am about to tell you should keep everyone quiet and should help make your decision. I hate when people think they know what they are talking about but have no proof or anything to back it up with.

Assasins Creed for PC came out with its Recommended Specifications. 3GB OF RAM.

I would recommend having 4 GB of ram, who knows what games at the end of the year will recommend or use.

See below what Ubisoft released.

- Supported OS: Windows XP / Vista (only)
- Processor: Dual core processor 2.6 GHz Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ or better recommended)
- RAM: 2 GB (3 GB recommended)
- Video Card: 256 MB DirectX 10.0-compliant video card or DirectX 9.0-compliant card with Shader Model 3.0 or higher (512 MB video card recommended) (see supported list)*
- Sound Card: DirectX 9.0 or 10.0 compliant sound card (5.1 sound card recommended)
- DirectX Version: DirectX 10.0 libraries (included on disc)
- DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM dual-layer drive
- Hard Drive Space: 12 GB
- Peripherals Supported: Keyboard, mouse, optional controller (Xbox 360 Controller for Windows recommended)

If you are buying DDR or DDR2 memory, just get 2 sticks of 2 gigs. The price difference isnt all that much. Theres not too many games that benefit from more than 2GB, but they do exist. If you are buying DDR3, then stick with 2 gigs due to the high price of the memory.

Im planning on buying 4 sticks of DDR2 (2 gigs each) for 8GB of RAM on my Vista machine, but thats because i also do quite a bit of graphic design work and im pretty sure Photoshop will eat up those 8GB in about 20 minutes of use.

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[QUOTE="Ibrahim17"]I wanted to get 4gb of ram in my new pc, but is it really going to do much? Should I just stay with 2gb of ram for now, while running Vista?itsme185

64-Bit O/S - 4GB - 8GB MAX

32-Bit O/S - up to 3GB

Remember that, now and forever, or until things change.

Actually, I'm pretty sure a 32bit O/S can only register/work up to 3GB and that an 64bit O/S can work up to 8GB. But honestly who needs 8GB, when you are losing some fps because you have 2GB more. The most you would need is 4GB and that is for Crysis or Assasin's Creed (poorly optimized)

Get 8 gigs only cost about 200 now. Ram is important 8 gigs will be good if you have alot of files and game alot. Need vista x64 for it though. Suliman-Uchia

8 gigs is a bit overkill IMO,unless your running a crazy amount of apps,and things like photoshop,videoediting etc.

But I agree that if you have the money it wouldn't hurt to get some extra memory.