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26 to 30 missions in a non-linear game is not and episodeNikalai_88
They are episodes (they contain 1 part of a 3 part game, you need all 3 to have the complete story). Let's not get all testy over wording... edit to your edit: It doesn't matter how much larger it may be than previous games (and that is not known yet), it does not change the fact that the game is split up into 3). What would you rather call it separate games?
what, since when is sc going into episodes?Xxgood-timesXx
http://kotaku.com/5062018/starcraft-ii-lead-producer-on-the-split-single-player-campaign
There is no way they will be cheap.
The price model will be simple.
SC2, $50 (standard) comes with Terran campaign, all 3 multiplayer races
SC2 (terran and protoss expansions) each campaign, more maps, possibly more units for terran and/or previous races. - $20-30 (expansion price)
So you'll be paying about $100 for the whole lot, Probably 2011 or around then the whole lot will be out and the pack might be had for $50 (as SC 2 will be 20-30, exp 1 will be 15-20 and exp 2 just released)
It won't be episodic pricing.
lmao to think blizzard was making enough money off of WOW, and diablo3, (not to mention now that it is actually Activision-Blizzard, with all the money they are bringing to the table)
blizzard is far from hurting on money.. so why do they pull this????
Lach0121
The pull this not for money, but because they want to release the game sooner....basically if they don't release it as episodes, we are gonna have to wait a LONG time for starcraft 2
[QUOTE="Lach0121"]lmao to think blizzard was making enough money off of WOW, and diablo3, (not to mention now that it is actually Activision-Blizzard, with all the money they are bringing to the table)
blizzard is far from hurting on money.. so why do they pull this????
nevereathim
The pull this not for money, but because they want to release the game sooner....basically if they don't release it as episodes, we are gonna have to wait a LONG time for starcraft 2
ummmm then they should of started work on it sooner... they had the better part of a decade easily to do it.no excuse.. and if you think its not for money... then i feel for you.. its business..
if its not for money... then see SC- ep1 as 20 dolllars, and the following 2 episodes 20 dollars each.. if they are more, than it is for the money.....
I think it's because of WoW.
The bosses see WoW on one side, lots of players, continous piles of cash pull up in trucks out their front door from subscribers.
If they push SC 2 and it's only one truck filled with money, they want more trucks.
It's all about the trucks.
I think it's because of WoW.
The bosses see WoW on one side, lots of players, continous piles of cash pull up in trucks out their front door from subscribers.
If they push SC 2 and it's only one truck filled with money, they want more trucks.
It's all about the trucks.
nutcrackr
The internet is not a big truck.
[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]26 to 30 missions in a non-linear game is not and episodeMeta-Gnostic
They are episodes (they contain 1 part of a 3 part game, you need all 3 to have the complete story). Let's not get all testy over wording... edit to your edit: It doesn't matter how much larger it may be than previous games (and that is not known yet), it does not change the fact that the game is split up into 3). What would you rather call it separate games?
No, StarCraft had about 30 missions, this will have slightly less, so we can tell how large the game will be. It does not matter what episodes actually are, but generally in gaming they have less content than a stand alone game, this has more. You can't argue that StarCraft 2 is the same to other rts games as Half-Life Episode 1 is to fps games. One will have three times the SP content when compared to something like CoH, the other has 1/3rd when compared to the original. The only similarity is that the story is split into parts; just like sequals, espansion packs etc. and has nothing to do with the quantity and value of the content. If Blizzard decided to make something like 90 missions that would be 9X the content of some RTS games and is just not doable.
[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I think it's because of WoW.
The bosses see WoW on one side, lots of players, continous piles of cash pull up in trucks out their front door from subscribers.
If they push SC 2 and it's only one truck filled with money, they want more trucks.
It's all about the trucks.
MythPro1
The internet is not a big truck.
It's a series of tubes!
[QUOTE="Meta-Gnostic"][QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]26 to 30 missions in a non-linear game is not and episodeNikalai_88
They are episodes (they contain 1 part of a 3 part game, you need all 3 to have the complete story). Let's not get all testy over wording... edit to your edit: It doesn't matter how much larger it may be than previous games (and that is not known yet), it does not change the fact that the game is split up into 3). What would you rather call it separate games?
No, StarCraft had about 30 missions, this will have slightly less, so we can tell how large the game will be. It does not matter what episodes actually are, but generally in gaming they have less content than a stand alone game, this has more. You can't argue that StarCraft 2 is the same to other rts games as Half-Life Episode 1 is to fps games. One will have three times the SP content when compared to something like CoH, the other has 1/3rd when compared to the original. The only similarity is that the story is split into parts; just like sequals, espansion packs etc. and has nothing to do with the quantity and value of the content. If Blizzard decided to make something like 90 missions that would be 9X the content of some RTS games and is just not doable.
We do not know the final mission count for Terran Wings of Liberty, but even if its 30 that makes it as large as SC 1, and how large the game is has nothing to do with if its an episode or not. Episodes do not always have less content than a stand alone game. Xenosaga Episode 1-3 were all full games, same with the Dot.hack series. After your first 2 sentences I do not really follow what you're trying to argue. And if Terran: Wings of Liberty is supposed to end up with around 30 missions and the other 2 episodes will have the same amount of campaign content, then the game will have 90 missions. This is very easily doable as creating missions in RTS games does not take a lot of time. It is everything else that takes so long, especially balancing. Regardless if they call them episodes or not, I will, because that provides an accurate description of what is going to take place with the release of this game.
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You know what? I have had one of my trade mark changes of heart:
I believe that Blizzard will be so generous that once you purchase the first game they will deliver the next two for free right to your very own Christmas Stocking signed by non-other than Roger Moore!
You know what? I have had one of my trade mark changes of heart:
I believe that Blizzard will be so generous that once you purchase the first game they will deliver the next two for free right to your very own Christmas Stocking signed by non-other than Roger Moore!
biggest_loser
so blizzard is in kahoots with santa?
$16.67 a piece, for a total of $50. It should be *one* game, not three. No matter how many missions long it is.foxhound_foxThey're all expansions. It seems fine to me. We were okay with Sins coming without a singleplayer campaign at all for $50, so getting one + skirmish + battle.net multiplayer for any price seems fair.
They're all expansions. It seems fine to me. We were okay with Sins coming without a singleplayer campaign at all for $50, so getting one + skirmish + battle.net multiplayer for any price seems fair.Makari
[QUOTE="Makari"]They're all expansions. It seems fine to me. We were okay with Sins coming without a singleplayer campaign at all for $50, so getting one + skirmish + battle.net multiplayer for any price seems fair.foxhound_fox
They really better not be full price for each one. At least maybe make it like Crysis Warhead price. Full price for each feels like rape to me... although im wiht you man, id probably buy them all anyways if they where full price :lol:
Anything from Blizzard that isnt MMO i seem to buy.
[QUOTE="nevereathim"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]lmao to think blizzard was making enough money off of WOW, and diablo3, (not to mention now that it is actually Activision-Blizzard, with all the money they are bringing to the table)
blizzard is far from hurting on money.. so why do they pull this????
Lach0121
The pull this not for money, but because they want to release the game sooner....basically if they don't release it as episodes, we are gonna have to wait a LONG time for starcraft 2
ummmm then they should of started work on it sooner... they had the better part of a decade easily to do it.no excuse.. and if you think its not for money... then i feel for you.. its business..
if its not for money... then see SC- ep1 as 20 dolllars, and the following 2 episodes 20 dollars each.. if they are more, than it is for the money.....
Their RTS team hasn't just been sitting around. They started work on Starcraft 2 immediatly after Warcraft 3. The project is just extremely ambitious.
[QUOTE="Lach0121"][QUOTE="nevereathim"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]lmao to think blizzard was making enough money off of WOW, and diablo3, (not to mention now that it is actually Activision-Blizzard, with all the money they are bringing to the table)
blizzard is far from hurting on money.. so why do they pull this????
crazymaghie123
The pull this not for money, but because they want to release the game sooner....basically if they don't release it as episodes, we are gonna have to wait a LONG time for starcraft 2
ummmm then they should of started work on it sooner... they had the better part of a decade easily to do it.no excuse.. and if you think its not for money... then i feel for you.. its business..
if its not for money... then see SC- ep1 as 20 dolllars, and the following 2 episodes 20 dollars each.. if they are more, than it is for the money.....
Their RTS team hasn't just been sitting around. They started work on Starcraft 2 immediatly after Warcraft 3. The project is just extremely ambitious.
we will just have to wait and see what path this ambition will lead them down... now dont we :P[QUOTE="crazymaghie123"][QUOTE="Lach0121"][QUOTE="nevereathim"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]lmao to think blizzard was making enough money off of WOW, and diablo3, (not to mention now that it is actually Activision-Blizzard, with all the money they are bringing to the table)
blizzard is far from hurting on money.. so why do they pull this????
Lach0121
The pull this not for money, but because they want to release the game sooner....basically if they don't release it as episodes, we are gonna have to wait a LONG time for starcraft 2
ummmm then they should of started work on it sooner... they had the better part of a decade easily to do it.no excuse.. and if you think its not for money... then i feel for you.. its business..
if its not for money... then see SC- ep1 as 20 dolllars, and the following 2 episodes 20 dollars each.. if they are more, than it is for the money.....
Their RTS team hasn't just been sitting around. They started work on Starcraft 2 immediatly after Warcraft 3. The project is just extremely ambitious.
we will just have to wait and see what path this ambition will lead them down... now dont we :PYep. Only time will tell.
I heard Blizzard was planning it to be $40 for each one....
But apparently, its only because each one is massive in size....they said like 40-60 missions for each one.
cobrax75
when i read the top part ($40), i first thought, "$120-30 for the whole thing? crazy!!!!' then, when i read that it'll be 40-60 missions each, i thought, "i wants it!!!!!"
****, i'll pay $200 for all three.
[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I heard Blizzard was planning it to be $40 for each one....
But apparently, its only because each one is massive in size....they said like 40-60 missions for each one.
JnWycliffe
when i read the top part ($40), i first thought, "$120-30 for the whole thing? crazy!!!!' then, when i read that it'll be 40-60 missions each, i thought, "i wants it!!!!!"
****, i'll pay $200 for all three.
I think they will give us enough content to warrant whatever price the games will be offered for.
[QUOTE="JnWycliffe"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]I heard Blizzard was planning it to be $40 for each one....
But apparently, its only because each one is massive in size....they said like 40-60 missions for each one.
crazymaghie123
when i read the top part ($40), i first thought, "$120-30 for the whole thing? crazy!!!!' then, when i read that it'll be 40-60 missions each, i thought, "i wants it!!!!!"
****, i'll pay $200 for all three.
I think they will give us enough content to warrant whatever price the games will be offered for.
agreed.
[QUOTE="crazymaghie123"][QUOTE="JnWycliffe"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]I heard Blizzard was planning it to be $40 for each one....
But apparently, its only because each one is massive in size....they said like 40-60 missions for each one.
JnWycliffe
when i read the top part ($40), i first thought, "$120-30 for the whole thing? crazy!!!!' then, when i read that it'll be 40-60 missions each, i thought, "i wants it!!!!!"
****, i'll pay $200 for all three.
I think they will give us enough content to warrant whatever price the games will be offered for.
agreed.
well i hope so, if they do warrant the price for 120$ then it should be one of the best games i have played in a long long time...its hard to tell right now, because honestly they are just giving us, just enough information to fill up the forums with starcraft 2 this/that/ price/worth....
but until i get more stable info..... im still on teh fence about it.
$20-$30. I've never heard of an xpac costing $50-$60. If they do decide to make them all cost $50-$60 I sure as well won't be buying until the prices are lowered to an appropriate price.FallenReigni agree.. if they are all 50-60 bucks then it should be good enough for there to be a great online community even when i get it, after the prices come down.
[QUOTE="Makari"]They're all expansions. It seems fine to me. We were okay with Sins coming without a singleplayer campaign at all for $50, so getting one + skirmish + battle.net multiplayer for any price seems fair.foxhound_fox
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Makari"]They're all expansions. It seems fine to me. We were okay with Sins coming without a singleplayer campaign at all for $50, so getting one + skirmish + battle.net multiplayer for any price seems fair.Makari
It doesn't mean they won't cost the same as the full game. Look at the WoW expansions...all full retail price.
[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Makari"]They're all expansions. It seems fine to me. We were okay with Sins coming without a singleplayer campaign at all for $50, so getting one + skirmish + battle.net multiplayer for any price seems fair.chrisrooR
It doesn't mean they won't cost the same as the full game. Look at the WoW expansions...all full retail price.
actually, wotlk is $40 (and i believe tbc was as well), which is $10 less than the price of a typical game.
You're all fools! You let Blizzard know that you really, really want StarCraft 2....
Not only will they find a way to take advantage of the situation, they'll use it to their advantage.....oh wait! They already have and are.
In all honesty, all three parts of this 1 game should be sold for no more then $16.66 each, thus overall you're spending $49.99 ( actually $49.98 ), the cost of most other new games released on PC.
Now, if StarCraft 2 sells for (we'll just use this for example) $25 a piece and you buy all 3 parts, you've just spent $75 on a single game. Once Blizzard sees how much more money they made by screwing over consumers, they might start to push more and more sales in this direction.
But, everyone that purchased the Orange Box from Valve can be thanked for allowing companies to start this general trend. I know that the Orange Box isn't quite the same as what Blizzard is doing, but it follows in idea closely. You were allowed to purchase each game from the Orange Box individually at a higher cost or you could purchase the bundle (Orange Box) at a lower set cost.
Blizzard is doing the same thing, just in reverse. You can buy the game in three sections [most likely] at an inflated cost of what a single game would actually cost. Don't let these companies do this us.
The same reasoning behind why the price of games tend to increase in price is because people have shown companies that they are willing to pay extra money for "Collector Editions" of games....while all you get is some little trinket that has nothing to do with actually playing the game. If you want to spend more money on these, then companies will charge you more.
[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Makari"]They're all expansions. It seems fine to me. We were okay with Sins coming without a singleplayer campaign at all for $50, so getting one + skirmish + battle.net multiplayer for any price seems fair.chrisrooR
It doesn't mean they won't cost the same as the full game. Look at the WoW expansions...all full retail price.
Yeah, but look at the root post we're quoting, where I'm the one who said it - even if each of these games is an 'expansion' at full retail price, we've paid full retail for other games that bring less to the table in terms of features and what they offer.I think they going to priced as retail games if this goes by ....... that and for those who want complete multiplayer then they need to pay for all of them....
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/13/blizzard-vp-starcraft-2-trilogy-on-the-3-year-plan/
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170602
[QUOTE="Lach0121"]lmao to think blizzard was making enough money off of WOW, and diablo3, (not to mention now that it is actually Activision-Blizzard, with all the money they are bringing to the table)
blizzard is far from hurting on money.. so why do they pull this????
nevereathim
The pull this not for money, but because they want to release the game sooner....basically if they don't release it as episodes, we are gonna have to wait a LONG time for starcraft 2
It's that the lame excuse they'll come up with? We'll have to wait till we find out the price. But to me it looks like they never had the plan to make it as episodes when they began development and only came up with this recently.I mean come on, last year when Starcraft 2 (keep in mind that it was in development for 3 or 4 years) was announced, many people thought they'll release it in late 2008, but now they're like " we didn't even finish the Terran campaign ".
This is not fair. These are not expansions nor full games, they just split the game in 3. I doubt they'll release them at $20 for episode. This is all about money because they know how successful Starcraft 2 will be. And so much for the expansion with the 4th race lol, didn't they say like just 2 months ago that they plan to release that. How if these are supposed to be the expansions? Will we get a 4th expansion? It sure looks like.
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