How to game with keyboard and mouse

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#1 sleepingzzz
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I was thinking on making a book to explain how to correctly use a keyboard and mouse to game with. I'm just tired of explaining what keyboard turning is and why it's terrible. Why clicking all your abilities in MMOs is setting you up for failure. I plan on charging a few bucks for it to cover the cost to print it as well as hiring someone to professionally proof read it.

I remember being lost when I came to pc gaming from console gaming years ago. I just had no idea how to game using a keyboard and mouse as controls. It took me years to really figure out the best way to do it. Hell, I'm still learning better ways to bind my keys today. There are some people like Taugrim that try to explain it but, it's not easy to find. I want to make some thing that is easily accessible and easy to find. I also want to have a lot of illustrations and video to show exactly why certain actions are useful while others are just terrible.

I came up with this idea after finding it really difficult to find people to add to my guild's pvp team. Everyone I talked to in game would tell me how awesome they are at pvp. When I ask them a simple question like do you use strafing? They have no idea what I'm talking about.

I believe the quality of pvp in games would be much higher if people just had a basic understanding of what to do and what not to do.

I would love for people here to give input on what they would like added to the book. That just no one explains or shows. I really want to hit on as many topics as I can in this book to get everyone up and performing at a high level even if they just started pc gaming.

That way pvp guild's won't need to answer the same questions over and over again. My goal with the book is to improve the level of pvp gaming. To hopefully give new and old players alike a level playing field.

Some of the topics I want to go over:

1. wasd controls and esdf controls.

2. Keyboard turning

3. Strafing

4. Taugrim's: w and r with mouse for forward

5. Binding keys and grouping them

6. macros

7. Turning with the mouse

8. Hand and finger locations/positioning

9. Positioning the camera

10. Video and illustration examples

11. Tactics for MMO play styles (range, melee, tank and healer)

12. Depending on how much it will cost I would also love to be able to program a short demo on how to use the tactics above. I probably won't be able to get enough cash to fund that though as I'm not a programmer.

I also want to touch on just general attitude when it comes to team play. Like quitting after one loss or blaming everyone else on the team after a loss.

Let me know what you guys think and what you would like added. Also, what you think would be fair value for such a book.

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#2 JigglyWiggly_
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lol. more like just use it for 30 minutes you are now adjusted
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#3 sleepingzzz
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lol. more like just use it for 30 minutes you are now adjustedJigglyWiggly_

It's actually not as easy as that. People can type 60+ words per minute because they have been taught how to type correctly. You can't just sit in front of a keyboard and expect to type a 100 words per minute with using just two fingers.

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#4 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]lol. more like just use it for 30 minutes you are now adjustedsleepingzzz

It's actually not as easy as that. People can type 60+ words per minute because they have been taught how to type correctly. You can't just sit in front of a keyboard and expect to type a 100 words per minute with using just two fingers.

i type 140 wpm and i just use my index finger on my right hand well pinky for enter and stuff. Never taught, just played some jedi outcast. First multiplayer game I played.

I type like 50wpm on my phone(with errors)

just use it, and you should be adjusted in a bit.

I mean unless you are slow or something.

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#5 slvrraven9
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a book....on how to use m/kb for gaming? how many gamers actually read the instruction book when they play a new game anymore? no, just...no
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#6 sleepingzzz
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a book....on how to use m/kb for gaming? how many gamers actually read the instruction book when they play a new game anymore? no, just...noslvrraven9

They don't read the instructions because they just bought the game and want to start playing.

Tons of people buy game guides. You can have the best items and still get whipped.

The book would be for people who want to get better at competitive play. To be better at end game content and pvp.

Book would come with a DVD that will have short clips to show how to position, strafe, etc..

I would also like to add a short game play demo where you can practice the moves. I have to see how much that would cost though.

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#7 wis3boi
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or you can...just play games with the setup and learn it on your own with practice

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#8 pelvist
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For once i find myself agreeing with JigglyWiggly_, learn to use KB&Mouse to play games the same way you would learn to use a different game controller that youve never used before. You dont need an essay, just a little practice.

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#9 Fire_Wa11
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Let's put 30 seconds on the clock as we feature Sleepzzz's post in this week's Tosh.0 Breakdown! Ready?!

1.) Somebody help! I found a great post on the web about how to use a keyboard and mouse but don't know how to open it!

2.) Sleepy Z? What should I feed my mouse?

3.) 90s and 80s gamers are always complaining about how games are too easy but I can't find this "WIN Button" anywhere!

4.) Now you can game where you m*sturbate!

5.) Slow down, son! You're going to be going through a sticky-mouse a week at that rate!

6.) "I'm going to pay to have it proofread." Yeah. Or you could just hit spellcheck for FREE ninety five. Who the heck taught you how to use a computer anyway?

7.) Chapter 1: You use WASD and Chapter 2: Or you point and click. THE END.

I kid! I kid! ;-D

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#10 sleepingzzz
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Tons of practice is always going to be required to get good but, you would need to be practicing the right moves. I've known people that have been playing MMOs for over 10 years and never understood the basic do's and don'ts. People who don't even use the mouse and just move using the arrow keys.

It's actually not that easy to search for it. Some people wouldn't even know where to begin. They don't even know why they are bad. From first hand experience a lot of people don't even know that they are bad because there are so many other bad players out there. People who would argue with me for literally hours about how there is nothing wrong with back peddling.

The book isn't going to be for people that already get high rankings in pvp. People that have been playing for years on PC and do extremely well wouldn't be interested. If you fall into that category then this book isn't for you. This also isn't going to be for people who just play single-player games. You can do everything fundamentally wrong with your controls and still beat just about every single-player game out there.

The book is for people who are new to PC gaming or those that are struggling to get out the bottom rankings in competitive play. I known plenty of people that tried PC gaming and didn't like it because they got frustrated with the controls and losing. The book would teach the basics of what to do and what not to do. How to group there key binds for the quickest reactions. It's actually very easy for someone to pick up a bad habit and then repetitivelyuse it for years. They then have an extremely hard time breaking that bad habit. There are also plenty of people who work and don't have a ton of time to game. They can still be very competitive if they focus are practicing the fundamentals.

I can use tennis as an example. Tennis is simple game where you just need to hit the ball over the net and keep the ball within the lines. Now you can practice playing tennis consistently for years and still be a bad player if you build bad habits with your swing. There is also a good chance you won't know how to create top spin unless someone teaches you.

You can also play tennis with a ball machine and just hit balls forever and think you're great.

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#11 JKnaperek
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]lol. more like just use it for 30 minutes you are now adjustedsleepingzzz

It's actually not as easy as that. People can type 60+ words per minute because they have been taught how to type correctly. You can't just sit in front of a keyboard and expect to type a 100 words per minute with using just two fingers.

It actually is that easy, and there are people who can type that fast .
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#12 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]a book....on how to use m/kb for gaming? how many gamers actually read the instruction book when they play a new game anymore? no, just...nosleepingzzz

They don't read the instructions because they just bought the game and want to start playing.

Tons of people buy game guides. You can have the best items and still get whipped.

The book would be for people who want to get better at competitive play. To be better at end game content and pvp.

Book would come with a DVD that will have short clips to show how to position, strafe, etc..

I would also like to add a short game play demo where you can practice the moves. I have to see how much that would cost though.

OR you can just check out the tons of FREE video clips scattered about the net which already guide you on the same topic
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#13 teardropmina
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not sure this thread is jesting or being serious?

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#14 Armoured_Mage
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pretty dumb idea tbh, most of the stuff youve described as going in this book can be described/taught very quickly, from that point its just a case of people practicing.

plus most of the info is already out there all you'd be doing is compiling it, which is fine, but making a book with a dvd and selling it?

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#15 GamingVengeance
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Pretty dumb idea i think lol don't actually waste time writing that book
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#16 BattleSpectre
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Book for Dummies: How to game with a keyboard and mouse. There i created the title for your book lol.

In all seriousness though it's not that hard, sure some people might need more time then others to adjust to the change but it becomes second nature in no time. Before i was a PC gamer i used to game on the consoles and as soon as i made the change to PC i picked it up straight away, the first game i played on my new computer was Batman Arkham Asylum and i loved it.

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My friend taught me this setup a long long time ago;

A - move forward

Z - move back

W - strafe left

E - strafe right

Mouse to turn and aim

Map X, Q, C for various things like toggle crouch, zoom, autorun, etc.

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#18 flipin_jackass
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I think it's like riding a bicycle or swimming; you'd benefit a lot more by just doing it. If I did want to learn, I'd be more inclined to watch a video than to read about it. That's not to totally discount the idea. Tips on tactics, and functions like key binding/macros might actually be useful. However, the basics (movement/camera) is better learned by trying. Hell, I barely look at the guides that come with my games. You're definitely free to write a book, but I think people would rather look up Wikis, game guides or Youtube for assistance. You also have existing paid publications like Prima... which are more game specific.
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#19 Amigro
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My friend taught me this setup a long long time ago;

A - move forward

Z - move back

W - strafe left

E - strafe right

Mouse to turn and aim

Map X, Q, C for various things like toggle crouch, zoom, autorun, etc.

ZombieKiller7

Holy mother... I hope you can break that habit soon, it seems terribly ineffective to me. When I first started playing Q3, I was taught to use TFGH as my movement setup. I quickly got out of that though.

OP,

No need to write a book. Just write a guide and supplement with Youtube videos. TBH though it seems like a waste of time either way.

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#20 General_X
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I gurantee a book on the subject would not be popular or successful. It sounds more like content that would go into a magazine article or blog post.
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#21 SharkheadHD
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Just make a YouTube video.

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#22 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

My friend taught me this setup a long long time ago;

A - move forward

Z - move back

W - strafe left

E - strafe right

Mouse to turn and aim

Map X, Q, C for various things like toggle crouch, zoom, autorun, etc.

Amigro

Holy mother... I hope you can break that habit soon, it seems terribly ineffective to me. When I first started playing Q3, I was taught to use TFGH as my movement setup. I quickly got out of that though.

OP,

No need to write a book. Just write a guide and supplement with Youtube videos. TBH though it seems like a waste of time either way.

doesn't matter what you use a lot of quake live players use the weirdest movement keys i use standard a lot of people don't even use the mouse key to shoot.
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#23 ddlcpc
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Just keep on typing or gaming, it'll come naturally.... I mean no body taught me how to play with controller, it's just getting use to....