How would you rate my friends new PC?

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#1 Thinker_145
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Intel E4600

Xfx 8800GT 512MB extreme edition

2GB corsair DDR2 value ram at 667Mhz.

What do you think about this "value RAM".I dont know much about it.

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#2 Ajtriple2
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The ram isn't very fast, and the processor is ok. If he/she has a fast harddrive, and a good motherboard, then I would give it a b- .
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#3 mastershake575
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The ram isn't very fast, and the processor is ok. If he/she has a fast harddrive, and a good motherboard, then I would give it a b- .Ajtriple2
im not saying ram speed isn't important but its not that low and the performance increase by going up in speed won't be much if any in games
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#4 razorsedge678
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its ok, id give it a b- too
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#5 shaolinjedi23
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I concur, 667MHz is fine but if you have the budget or want slightly more speed with day to day applications I would go with 800MHz.
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#6 Daytona_178
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I concur, 667MHz is fine but if you have the budget or want slightly more speed with day to day applications I would go with 800MHz.shaolinjedi23

meh its fine,,,the graphics card makes up for it.

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#7 Thinker_145
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But is their something bad about "value ram" or are you people saying that 667mhz RAM isnt very good.I know pretty well that RAM speed doesnt effect much performance.
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#8 mastershake575
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But is their something bad about "value ram" or are you people saying that 667mhz RAM isnt very good.I know pretty well that RAM speed doesnt effect much performance.Thinker_145
there saying that the speed is bad which isn't really true your not going to get a noticeable fps increase by going up in speed if any and no theres nothing wrong with kingston value since ram is ram no matter how you look at it, the only problem with it is its would probaly make overclocking harder i guess
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#9 PWN-Schubie
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the only real differance between the value ram and their more high end stuff is that they often hand test the higher end modules and they use better chips that are more resiliant to overclocking and high speeds.

here is a list of all the chips use on ram modules.

http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/

oh, and no heat spreader :P

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#10 My_name_a_Borat
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Actually, 667MHz RAM is overkill for that setup. For best performance on an Intel system, the CPU bus speed and DRAM speed should be matched. The E4600 has a 200MHz bus (800MHz QDR, but you shouldn't rely on the QDR/DDR figures). PC-5300 memory runs at 333MHz (666MHz DDR).

For best performance, you should run the RAM at 200MHz (400DDR), unless of course you overclock the processor. Just try to keep a 1:1 ratio for best performance.

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#11 filmography
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he's computer is fine, although he's CPU weakens it, however it still should perform adequatetly.
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#12 Daytona_178
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he's computer is fine, although he's CPU weakens it, however it still should perform adequatetly. filmography

well only if its not overclocked!

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#13 Thinker_145
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[QUOTE="filmography"]he's computer is fine, although he's CPU weakens it, however it still should perform adequatetly. daytona_178

well only if its not overclocked!

It's not that bad of a CPU at stock.It's 2.4ghz and 2MB cache.It's not far away than a Q6600 at stock.:P
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they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

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#15 Thinker_145
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they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

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BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?
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#16 killtheponies
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1 fps is not too much of a difference... though the E6750 is a more powerful processor, so that may be one of the factors.
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[QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"]

they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

Thinker_145

BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?

Sorry to go off topic, but how do you run the Crysis benchmark?

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#18 PWN-Schubie
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[QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"]

they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

Thinker_145

BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?

im sorry, a tad confused, are you asking if the 1fps differance is because of the cpu?

i think that could be the limiting factor, now 1fps wouldnt be a hugh deal, but generally the gt does slightly out perform the gts640, so my guess is if he did abit of OCing he could raise that abit, but the big performance differance would be in more CPU intensive games like SupCom.

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#19 Thinker_145
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[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"]

they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

PWN-Schubie

BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?

im sorry, a tad confused, are you asking if the 1fps differance is because of the cpu?

i think that could be the limiting factor, now 1fps wouldnt be a hugh deal, but generally the gt does slightly out perform the gts640, so my guess is if he did abit of OCing he could raise that abit, but the big performance differance would be in more CPU intensive games like SupCom.

Ya i meant that he should be slightly faster than me rather than slower but maybe the CPU is leveling the playing field.:P
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#20 killtheponies
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[QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"]

they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

Thinker_145

BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?

im sorry, a tad confused, are you asking if the 1fps differance is because of the cpu?

i think that could be the limiting factor, now 1fps wouldnt be a hugh deal, but generally the gt does slightly out perform the gts640, so my guess is if he did abit of OCing he could raise that abit, but the big performance differance would be in more CPU intensive games like SupCom.

Ya i meant that he should be slightly faster than me rather than slower but maybe the CPU is leveling the playing field.:P

Perhaps the CPU is bottlenecking the card... pehaps it's just a statistical error.

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#21 PWN-Schubie
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nah, i think its your processor is picking up the slack while his is not up to the job.
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#22 shanelevy
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[QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"]

they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

Thinker_145

BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?

im sorry, a tad confused, are you asking if the 1fps differance is because of the cpu?

i think that could be the limiting factor, now 1fps wouldnt be a hugh deal, but generally the gt does slightly out perform the gts640, so my guess is if he did abit of OCing he could raise that abit, but the big performance differance would be in more CPU intensive games like SupCom.

Ya i meant that he should be slightly faster than me rather than slower but maybe the CPU is leveling the playing field.:P

Everything, including resolution, settings, filters was exactly the same? Same amount of background programs running? Same operating system?

Also, 667mhz ram's only downside is it can severely limit overclocking. If he doesn't plan to push it very far it should be fine.

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#23 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"]

they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

shanelevy

BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?

im sorry, a tad confused, are you asking if the 1fps differance is because of the cpu?

i think that could be the limiting factor, now 1fps wouldnt be a hugh deal, but generally the gt does slightly out perform the gts640, so my guess is if he did abit of OCing he could raise that abit, but the big performance differance would be in more CPU intensive games like SupCom.

Ya i meant that he should be slightly faster than me rather than slower but maybe the CPU is leveling the playing field.:P

Everything, including resolution, settings, filters was exactly the same? Same amount of background programs running? Same operating system?

Also, 667mhz ram's only downside is it can severely limit overclocking. If he doesn't plan to push it very far it should be fine.

Well i think with 667Mhz you could probably get about 3Ghz on many mobo's.

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#24 Thinker_145
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[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="PWN-Schubie"]

they only downside to the 4600 is its FSB, thats why people like to OC it.

but agreed, for the price, even stock it is a good little processor.

shanelevy

BTW i ran crysis GPU benchmark with all high settings on his PC and it came 1fps short of what i get with my PC.Do you think that it has something to do with the CPU?

im sorry, a tad confused, are you asking if the 1fps differance is because of the cpu?

i think that could be the limiting factor, now 1fps wouldnt be a hugh deal, but generally the gt does slightly out perform the gts640, so my guess is if he did abit of OCing he could raise that abit, but the big performance differance would be in more CPU intensive games like SupCom.

Ya i meant that he should be slightly faster than me rather than slower but maybe the CPU is leveling the playing field.:P

Everything, including resolution, settings, filters was exactly the same? Same amount of background programs running? Same operating system?

Also, 667mhz ram's only downside is it can severely limit overclocking. If he doesn't plan to push it very far it should be fine.

Well the OS and the settings were exactly the same.Cant really say about the background programs.The settings were all high in xp at 10x7 with 4xAA with vsync on and the 1.1 patch installed.He got 39fps in the GPU becnhmark and i get 40.

He has an IDE drive if it has to do something.And his card is only mildly overclocked whereas mine is one of the fastest factory oced GTS's around.However it must be said that atleast according to him he doesnt run any maintainance softwares.I'll tell him exactly what programs to run and then atleast in crysis he should be above me i think.And he will also get a SATA 2 pretty soon.