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#1 senses_fail_06
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$664 Studio Slim Desktop

PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Quad processor Q8200 (4MB L2, 2.33GHz, 1333FSB)

OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1

OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft® Works 9

WARRANTY & SERVICE 1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis

MONITOR No Monitor

MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 4DIMMs

HARD DRIVE 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™

OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive

VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 3450 256MB supporting HDMI

SOUND Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio

KEYBOARD & MOUSE Dell Consumer Multimedia Keyboard and Laser Mouse

I'll also get around a 10% discount, so the final price will be around $600. Any glaring problems? How will the processor/graphics card handle crysis?

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#2 senses_fail_06
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I looked up the video card and it seems pretty crap. So I was thinking, I could subtract the price from the dell website and get an extra $60 and then invest in a nice $120-150 card. On dell.com it won't let me upgrade any higher so it gives me the default integrated crap, I was wondering if I would still have PCI-E slots to upgrade?
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knowing dell they wouldprobably give you some crap mob with no pcie slot but who knows the radeon 3450 wont run any new game very well and forget crysis or gta4 on it or pretty much any newish game.
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knowing dell they wouldprobably give you some crap mob with no pcie slot but who knows the radeon 3450 wont run any new game very well and forget crysis or gta4 on it or pretty much any newish game.imprezawrx500
Yeah, I looked it up and people were getting pretty low frames. I was reading a review here: http://www.desktopreview.com/default.asp?newsID=530 and they said it has: "one PCI, two PCIe x1 and one PCIe x16. Three of them are already taken up with components, however, limiting your options for expansion." However, the reviewer did buy the radeon instead of the integrated card. Most newer cards use PCIe x16, right? There should be an open slot, right?
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Slim. Slim. SLIM?! That computer is not designed for gaming, period. It only accepts low-profile graphics cards, and very few graphics cards designed for gaming are built on this form factor. The few that are require beefier power supplies than you'll find in any slim tower from ANY major PC builder (Dell, HP, Gateway, you name it). If you're willing to add a graphics card, you might as well build one yourself. You could almost certainly build a better system for $600, although I'd probably up the budget $100 or so if you're looking for gaming-grade hardware.
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#6 trijity
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Ibuypower.com

Can give them a look for gaming PC's. I got mine from there for a deal, I tell ya you can BARELY build one yourself for cheaper. Had quite a few months now and it still screams. (I7 920, EVGA 285, 6g ddr3 1333mhz). (btw, always consider their coupons, so what you see there isn't the final price as well...they *ALWAYS* have a deal going on)

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as long as there is a pcie 16x slot you can put in a decent gpu but a slim case really limits what will fit I think a 9600gt is the best you can get which is decent.
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Self-build. Just buy parts from newegg.com. Avoid all pre-builds as they are either shoddy, overpriced, or both.
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[QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]Slim. Slim. SLIM?! That computer is not designed for gaming, period. It only accepts low-profile graphics cards, and very few graphics cards designed for gaming are built on this form factor. The few that are require beefier power supplies than you'll find in any slim tower from ANY major PC builder (Dell, HP, Gateway, you name it). If you're willing to add a graphics card, you might as well build one yourself. You could almost certainly build a better system for $600, although I'd probably up the budget $100 or so if you're looking for gaming-grade hardware.

I wouldn't mind spending up to $800 for something nice and upgradeable.

Ibuypower.com

Can give them a look for gaming PC's. I got mine from there for a deal, I tell ya you can BARELY build one yourself for cheaper. Had quite a few months now and it still screams. (I7 920, EVGA 285, 6g ddr3 1333mhz). (btw, always consider their coupons, so what you see there isn't the final price as well...they *ALWAYS* have a deal going on)

trijity
Hmm seems like a pretty easy to use site. Could someone build me a computer using this site?
Self-build. Just buy parts from newegg.com. Avoid all pre-builds as they are either shoddy, overpriced, or both.WDT-BlackKat
Ehh, I find if I self build I still have to put it all together, plus dell throws in an OS...which I need.
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Personally, I don't like IBuyPower. I've only encountered two of their machines personally, and both of them required fixing. Their QA department is on a permanent break apparently, and their build quality is not up to snuff. I'd say you're much better off building one yourself, especially if you plan on upgrading it. That way you know exactly what you put into your system and how to change it when you do want to upgrade. As for the OS, the Windows 7 RC is still free I believe and reasonably stable. My $800 suggestion does include a budget for an OS however, so you're covered there.
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[QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]Personally, I don't like IBuyPower. I've only encountered two of their machines personally, and both of them required fixing. Their QA department is on a permanent break apparently, and their build quality is not up to snuff. I'd say you're much better off building one yourself, especially if you plan on upgrading it. That way you know exactly what you put into your system and how to change it when you do want to upgrade. As for the OS, the Windows 7 RC is still free I believe and reasonably stable. My $800 suggestion does include a budget for an OS however, so you're covered there.

You have one that would include everything for under $800? Mind posting it?
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Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P motherboard There is currently a combo bundle available with Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit that saves you $20. This board also supports Crossfire so you've got a decent upgrade path. AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition This is one hell of a processor for the price. Three cores, unlocked multiplier for easy overclocking, and great performance out of the box. 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 Exactly what kit you go with really doesn't matter, I just prefer Crucial and this kit is one hell of a deal. XFX Radeon HD4850 512MB There are cheaper versions of the HD4850 on Newegg, but none of them come with XFX's double-lifetime warranty or a dual-slot cooler that exhausts waste heat out of your case. Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB hard drive Should be plenty of space and its speed is good for a mechanical drive. Corsair VX550 Same price as the TX650w, but with a larger mail-in-rebate. Since the savings aren't immediate, if you want to go with the larger unit "just in case" that wouldn't be a bad idea either. Rest assured this power supply will run two of those HD4850 cards in Crossfire though. DVD Dual-Layer SATA optical drive Not much to say about one of these. Now, I didn't include a case - I prefer to let people pick those up themselves. All those components are right around $710 before mail-in-rebates, of which you have $50 worth. So that gives you ~$100 to play with for your case. Just make sure it accepts standard ATX motherboards and you'll be fine. Or you could spend a little less than your total budget, and pick up an aftermarket CPU cooler to allow for safer overclocking. It's up to you really - my own personal recommendations here would be the Antec Three Hundred case and Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283 (or S1283V, whichever you find cheaper).
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the video card sucks

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I'm thinking about this CPU, myself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680

paired with this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135236

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227292

and video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161268

Comes to about $420.... for the above.

Harddrives run for about 70 bucks, case/PSU figure about $100-$250 (depending on how fancy a case you get). Figure about 100 for an "OEM" OS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488 Another 100-200 for keyboard, mouse, DVD drive,and speakers. And about $150-350 fora monitor... and maybe a 100 for a printer. 200 for a leather chair.... 200 for a desk. Heh, Are you sure you don't want to settle for a 99 dollar PS2?

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#15 senses_fail_06
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Thanks Rayvin and ThreeSixty, Perhaps it is better for me just to build my own.

I think I'll go with yours Rayvin, it seems like one hell of a computer for the price and includes the OS. I appreciate you finding all the links and stuff. Is there anything I'll need before starting to build this computer?

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#16 Sporknife
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That build looks good, but personnally i'd spend less on the mobo and get a 4870.