Human exosuit versus alien exosuit? (Crysis)

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#1 Myrkan
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Something I noticed in Crysis. These aliens are suppose to be a super advanced race, right? Yet they are incredibly weak compared to a human in a nanosuit. A human in a nanosuit can take down at least 5 of the small aliens in exosuits, and maybe two of the larger exosuits that fly around, and it takes about a platoon of humans in nanosuits to take down a giant exosuit. And Nomad took down the giant alien ship basically by himself, he had some Vtol support and a prototype weapon, but he took it down. I just think its a little odd that they designed it like this. I thought the aliens were supposed to be super advanced all powerful, right?
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#2 -Origin-
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The aliens spent all their time developing their freeze ray instead of better battle gear. But...since the freeze ray can kill everyone except nanosuits, I think the aliens made the right decision :)
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#4 Myrkan
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I didnt really say they were stronger...I guess the person who posted first was correct (sorry didnt see your screenname) when he said they can take down anything but nanosuit. I just thought it was wierd how the humans in nanosuits could take down dozens of aliens in exosuits by themselves. And Nomad basically took down the giant alien ship by himself. I guess their numbers make up for it. There are many more alien exosuits than there are nanosuits.
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#5 fatshodan
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Well, the thing is, technology isn't linear and getting 'better' in one area doesn't guarantee you'll get better in another area, and also those aliens are from an utterly different environment to ours and their technologies are - like our technologies - presumably built to counter their own technologies.

They are more advanced than us in some areas, but that doesn't mean they could anticipate our technologies and how to counter them, or that their own technologies would naturally counter our own. Besides, didn't the alien spaceship crash on our planet? They didn't even intend to land on our planet.

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#6 thenewau25
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basicly helena's signal saved them thru the nanosuit cuz the scriptwirters wanted a blockbuster ending, BUT AGAIN can tou kill all koreans by only fighting with guns and the shield or aliens? no you wont survive you got to use outher powers so the nanosuits aint better,OR they froze the island to kill humans but the nanosuits warm things up!
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#7 Swiftstrike5
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Humans have the home terrain advantage.

For all we know, they don't have the materials to take advantage of their super advanced technology.

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#8 blade55555
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just because their "aliens" doesn't mean they have better technology and are far more advanced. In some areas sure but yea. the thing about aliens is everybody assumes they have to have way better technology and our guns don't really effect them. That is 1 thing I like about crysis is its not like the aliens can't die lol. Thats just my opinion.
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#9 deactivated-60678a6f9e4d4
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Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, but it was meant to make for better gameplay.

And please don't get thenewau25 started... again...

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[QUOTE="Myrkan"]Something I noticed in Crysis. These aliens are suppose to be a super advanced race, right? Yet they are incredibly weak compared to a human in a nanosuit. A human in a nanosuit can take down at least 5 of the small aliens in exosuits, and maybe two of the larger exosuits that fly around, and it takes about a platoon of humans in nanosuits to take down a giant exosuit. And Nomad took down the giant alien ship basically by himself, he had some Vtol support and a prototype weapon, but he took it down. I just think its a little odd that they designed it like this. I thought the aliens were supposed to be super advanced all powerful, right?thenewau25

WTF ARE YOU NUTS? EVERY TIME A KOREAN SHOOT YOU 1 HIT THE SHIELD IS GETTING DISABLED HOW THE CRYSIS GRAPHICAL SHAKE IS THE NANOSUIT TOUGHER THAN ALIEN EXOSKELETON?

Am I the only one that doesn't understand anything this guy posts?

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#11 deactivated-60678a6f9e4d4
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[QUOTE="thenewau25"]

[QUOTE="Myrkan"]Something I noticed in Crysis. These aliens are suppose to be a super advanced race, right? Yet they are incredibly weak compared to a human in a nanosuit. A human in a nanosuit can take down at least 5 of the small aliens in exosuits, and maybe two of the larger exosuits that fly around, and it takes about a platoon of humans in nanosuits to take down a giant exosuit. And Nomad took down the giant alien ship basically by himself, he had some Vtol support and a prototype weapon, but he took it down. I just think its a little odd that they designed it like this. I thought the aliens were supposed to be super advanced all powerful, right?sSubZerOo

WTF ARE YOU NUTS? EVERY TIME A KOREAN SHOOT YOU 1 HIT THE SHIELD IS GETTING DISABLED HOW THE CRYSIS GRAPHICAL SHAKE IS THE NANOSUIT TOUGHER THAN ALIEN EXOSKELETON?

Am I the only one that doesn't understand anything this guy posts?

No, you're not alone.

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#12 thenewau25
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Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, but it was meant to make for better gameplay.

And please don't get thenewau25 started... again...

bangell99

dude seriously just because you can defeat an alien boss doesnt mean nanosuits are tougher the nanosuits are anything than heavilly defended! this dude doestn make sense the nanosuit isnt eg halo shield the big super duper mega hunter can be defeated only thanks too blockbuster helena's signal, so what the he is talking about?

in a simple explanation if the marines can killl the freaking annoying koreans, they pawn the 1000 years old alien robots, eg the alien ectomorphs were tougher inside the core level, ok game doesnt make sense lets stop trying to prove evrysingle inch of crysis 100 perfect, but again it makes no sence how one trooper kills so many enemies so lets drop it, the only thing i wanna say i thinkg koreans are tougher for me than aliens!

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#13 deactivated-60678a6f9e4d4
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Wut
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#14 thenewau25
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Wutbangell99

am saying its a game some stuff are not making sense but seriously that you have to strangle to defeat a boss by your own because its the last boss doesnt mean the nanosuit is better the player is better, if we start analyze this we should start to analyze why the armor takes only one hit for the bar to run out, what kinda of MAXIMUM defensive shield is this?

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#15 deactivated-60678a6f9e4d4
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Well if this sheild let you absorb dozens of bullets, you wouldn't need to use tactics at all - you could just walk around shooting everything. This isn't Halo.

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#16 hrkljoosh
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i totaly agree with u.aliens are too damn weak in this game,and nomad is kicking their butts too easily.it would be cooler if they had some more advanced weapons,instead freeze ray,so they could be greater threat to nomad,but noooooo,they have some alien stuff,and they think they can rule over the earth,but only one''Maximum Strenght''will wipe'em all out.i think that aliens are madden weaker on purpose,cause u can take down that big octopuss with 3 shots of GAUSS GUN,and he cant take u down cause those frozen bullets are to weak to penetrate exoshield.but however that crysis is fantastic,and all korean slaughter with Psycho,Prophet,Nomad and Co. is too damn intresting........
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#17 thenewau25
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yeah but as i explained thats how i like game guns and shield so i changed the shield settings to be more right since koreans take 6 shots with pistols and 5 with assault rilfes without armor, but my character is wearing a halloween suit so i think thats idiotics and thanks to patch 1.2 and my changes the gam is more reallistic thanks to warhead ai that get stunned by damage the game is more reallistic and balanced and i think its better that way instead of one hit 1 hits at least now it doesnt look broken and am more armored than unarmored koreans! there are lot of things not making sense eg why the nanokoreans have a really power full shield or why tranqulizer gun is so much easier to take down the nanokoreans so i suggest we chill down cuz judging by all these crysis isnt perfect no game is so we should stop trying to figure out every plot hole like why koreans attack or why the island is so limited by nomads side and its bigger by psycho side so the why humas are tougher than aliens is, THEY ARE NOT the player is better! (again explain me how nomad is tougher than the alien exosuit? because helene uses singnal to damage the hunter over all its not tougher like nomad is not tougher than a squad of koreans it takes tactics like you said, so the player is smarter than aliens thats how you suvruve not cuz you are tougher!
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#18 deactivated-60678a6f9e4d4
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Okay, my brain is hurting trying to understand that.

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#19 thenewau25
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i totaly agree with u.aliens are too damn weak in this game,and nomad is kicking their butts too easily.it would be cooler if they had some more advanced weapons,instead freeze ray,so they could be greater threat to nomad,but noooooo,they have some alien stuff,and they think they can rule over the earth,but only one''Maximum Strenght''will wipe'em all out.i think that aliens are madden weaker on purpose,cause u can take down that big octopuss with 3 shots of GAUSS GUN,and he cant take u down cause those frozen bullets are to weak to penetrate exoshield.but however that crysis is fantastic,and all korean slaughter with Psycho,Prophet,Nomad and Co. is too damn intresting........hrkljoosh

exactly, the koreans are more dangerous than aliens so the game doesnt make sense? does that need that it has to be harder at this point? cuz YOU find it easy, or all outher flaws, give it a break crysis has a high amount of unbalances and incionvinieces that dont make sense so it wont ever be explained let it be and stop with all that perfect game cuz as you see there are no logical explantations for the flaws, if you dont see the flaws you are not concerned like i dont care on how is it possible to kill them easily, and i concern on how one shot is disabling the shield, but that might sound logical to you and not too me so NOTHING makes sense , nomad can take them down because its a blockbuster end of story!

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#20 crazyfist36
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how does Gordon Freeman stave off an entire invasion twice with a crowbar??!?!?

how does the doom marine defeat hell?

at least Crysis had some seriously cool gimmicks and ideas.

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#21 thenewau25
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what he

how does Gordon Freeman stave off an entire invasion twice with a crowbar??!?!?

how does the doom marine defeat hell?

at least Crysis had some seriously cool gimmicks and ideas.

crazyfist36

exactly and on how gordon or doom kills em all simple because they dont have ideas its just that unlike crysis the character is tough!

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[QUOTE="thenewau25"]

[QUOTE="Myrkan"]Something I noticed in Crysis. These aliens are suppose to be a super advanced race, right? Yet they are incredibly weak compared to a human in a nanosuit. A human in a nanosuit can take down at least 5 of the small aliens in exosuits, and maybe two of the larger exosuits that fly around, and it takes about a platoon of humans in nanosuits to take down a giant exosuit. And Nomad took down the giant alien ship basically by himself, he had some Vtol support and a prototype weapon, but he took it down. I just think its a little odd that they designed it like this. I thought the aliens were supposed to be super advanced all powerful, right?sSubZerOo

WTF ARE YOU NUTS? EVERY TIME A KOREAN SHOOT YOU 1 HIT THE SHIELD IS GETTING DISABLED HOW THE CRYSIS GRAPHICAL SHAKE IS THE NANOSUIT TOUGHER THAN ALIEN EXOSKELETON?

Am I the only one that doesn't understand anything this guy posts?

God no. Out of all his posts i have read, i understood maybe one and it was : "Yeah me too"
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#23 thenewau25
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="thenewau25"]

[QUOTE="Myrkan"]Something I noticed in Crysis. These aliens are suppose to be a super advanced race, right? Yet they are incredibly weak compared to a human in a nanosuit. A human in a nanosuit can take down at least 5 of the small aliens in exosuits, and maybe two of the larger exosuits that fly around, and it takes about a platoon of humans in nanosuits to take down a giant exosuit. And Nomad took down the giant alien ship basically by himself, he had some Vtol support and a prototype weapon, but he took it down. I just think its a little odd that they designed it like this. I thought the aliens were supposed to be super advanced all powerful, right?greatmax1

WTF ARE YOU NUTS? EVERY TIME A KOREAN SHOOT YOU 1 HIT THE SHIELD IS GETTING DISABLED HOW THE CRYSIS GRAPHICAL SHAKE IS THE NANOSUIT TOUGHER THAN ALIEN EXOSKELETON?

Am I the only one that doesn't understand anything this guy posts?

God no. Out of all his posts i have read, i understood maybe one and it was : "Yeah me too"

same goes for you!

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#24 Myrkan
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I guess I'd have to agree that the aliens werent planning on fighting on this planet, and the nanosuit is really the only thing that stands a chance against them. As people have been saying, they are more advanced in some areas, but weaker in others.

I just thought it was wierd how a race that focuses on exosuits for battle, has less advanced onces than the humans have. It take a ton of large exosuits to take down a much smaller human in an nanosuit.

Going back to the freeze-ray though, as I said before they probably didnt expect any other species to have technology similar to theirs.

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#25 thenewau25
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WTF? some things cannot explain, jeez whats next a complete explanation of silent hill endings?
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#26 Guiltfeeder566
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Makes sense really. You might argue that their tech was made to counter their tech, but look at humanity. Do you think an army from 1941 would be able to stand up to an army from 2008? Of course not, it would be a steamroll match. And thats just a little more then 50 years. These aliens could be hundreds, thousands of years more advanced then us. But then, its a game.
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#27 GodLovesDead
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Okay, my brain is hurting trying to understand that.

bangell99

You're not the only one. If I were you, don't bother reading it. It's not worth the headache because the content contained within his terrible writing isn't anything logical.

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#28 DragonfireXZ95
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Okay, my brain is hurting trying to understand that.

bangell99

That comment with the Dr. Evil avatar just has me in stitches right now. I can't stop laughing. lol

And yeah, you're not the only one.

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#29 thenewau25
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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

Okay, my brain is hurting trying to understand that.

GodLovesDead

You're not the only one. If I were you, don't bother reading it. It's not worth the headache because the content contained within his terrible writing isn't anything logical.

the only thing it is, is logical!

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[QUOTE="thenewau25"]

[QUOTE="Myrkan"]Something I noticed in Crysis. These aliens are suppose to be a super advanced race, right? Yet they are incredibly weak compared to a human in a nanosuit. A human in a nanosuit can take down at least 5 of the small aliens in exosuits, and maybe two of the larger exosuits that fly around, and it takes about a platoon of humans in nanosuits to take down a giant exosuit. And Nomad took down the giant alien ship basically by himself, he had some Vtol support and a prototype weapon, but he took it down. I just think its a little odd that they designed it like this. I thought the aliens were supposed to be super advanced all powerful, right?sSubZerOo

WTF ARE YOU NUTS? EVERY TIME A KOREAN SHOOT YOU 1 HIT THE SHIELD IS GETTING DISABLED HOW THE CRYSIS GRAPHICAL SHAKE IS THE NANOSUIT TOUGHER THAN ALIEN EXOSKELETON?

Am I the only one that doesn't understand anything this guy posts?

Don't worry. I have no idea what he said either. Something about graphics shaking, shields, koreans and skelentons. *Shrug*.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="thenewau25"]

[QUOTE="Myrkan"]Something I noticed in Crysis. These aliens are suppose to be a super advanced race, right? Yet they are incredibly weak compared to a human in a nanosuit. A human in a nanosuit can take down at least 5 of the small aliens in exosuits, and maybe two of the larger exosuits that fly around, and it takes about a platoon of humans in nanosuits to take down a giant exosuit. And Nomad took down the giant alien ship basically by himself, he had some Vtol support and a prototype weapon, but he took it down. I just think its a little odd that they designed it like this. I thought the aliens were supposed to be super advanced all powerful, right?bangell99

WTF ARE YOU NUTS? EVERY TIME A KOREAN SHOOT YOU 1 HIT THE SHIELD IS GETTING DISABLED HOW THE CRYSIS GRAPHICAL SHAKE IS THE NANOSUIT TOUGHER THAN ALIEN EXOSKELETON?

Am I the only one that doesn't understand anything this guy posts?

No, you're not alone.

I don't understand it either

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#32 nevereathim
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WTF? some things cannot explain, jeez whats next a complete explanation of silent hill endings?thenewau25

I wouldn't mind an explanation to what you're saying with proper grammar and spelling