I absolutely HATE clans

The worst trend ever in online multiplayer gaming. Especially in a game like Battlefield 2142.

Whenever you log on to a clan server, you know you're going to see about eight clan members on the same team completely murdering the other team made of completely random players. Why the hell can't half of them go to the other team? When a professional basketball team practices, they play against each other, not against a group of kids at a middle-school playground. It's incredibly lame. And then there's the admin privileges that most clan members have and horribly abuse. Just today I was kicked for telling a whining clan member to "just play."

Post your clan hate here. :p

I never had that problem. I only play TF2 online, but I rarely see disastrously unbalanced teams, and when I do, it's not because of clan members (that I can tell, anyway - a lot don't wear tags).

I've never been a member of a FPS clan, but I have nothing against them.

Just join another server if the clan members behave like pricks. People that have a lot of power usually don't know how to use it properly, so you'll see quite a lot of admin power abuse in games. Just join another server if you see it happening. There are many other servers so I'm sure you'll find one with mature clan members that know how to behave as an admin.

There are many clan members that don't know or simply don't get it that you should treat people with respect. Such people need to be taught how to behave as an admin. And they need to be disciplined if they still behave improperly towards other people. This is VERY important for admins but all members should show some decency and respect when playing in public AND private. The problem is that there are many immature people on the internet that do not agree with me.

As for the unbalanced teams, there are many reasons why they would do it. Usually it's because they want to play with people that use the clan's tactics and strategies. Random people don't know their tactics or strategies, so it's less fun to play with random people. Sometimes they just want to get easy kills. Don't forget, they usually play in public for FUN, not to train. And playing together with other clan members is hell of a lot more fun then playing together with random people. But like I said before, all members should show some respect towards other people. If the clan members are totally annihilating the opposite team, then they should switch teams to balance the teams. But again, many people are too immature to do that.

Just don't forget that there are many clans out there that do not consist out of pricks. There are many clans with mature and friendly people. I guess it all depends on the community. If you play something like Battlefield or Counter Strike there will be a much higher chance that you will find people that need to grow up. I only play in clans that play realistic/sim games so I don't meet too many of those... Hardly any, actually.

But I guess you just have to get used to it, because you're going to see immature people quite a lot: Welcome to the internet!

The worst trend ever in online multiplayer gaming. Especially in a game like Battlefield 2142.

Whenever you log on to a clan server, you know you're going to see about eight clan members on the same team completely murdering the other team made of completely random players. Why the hell can't half of them go to the other team? When a professional basketball team practices, they play against each other, not against a group of kids at a middle-school playground. It's incredibly lame. And then there's the admin privileges that most clan members have and horribly abuse. Just today I was kicked for telling a whining clan member to "just play."

Post your clan hate here. :p

dos4gw82

That's not what clans are about.

Clans are for scrims and competing against other clans... the clans you speak of who dominate their own servers arent even real clans.

[QUOTE="dos4gw82"]

The worst trend ever in online multiplayer gaming. Especially in a game like Battlefield 2142.

Whenever you log on to a clan server, you know you're going to see about eight clan members on the same team completely murdering the other team made of completely random players. Why the hell can't half of them go to the other team? When a professional basketball team practices, they play against each other, not against a group of kids at a middle-school playground. It's incredibly lame. And then there's the admin privileges that most clan members have and horribly abuse. Just today I was kicked for telling a whining clan member to "just play."

Post your clan hate here. :p

ElectricNZ

That's not what clans are about.

Clans are for scrims and competing against other clans... the clans you speak of who dominate their own servers arent even real clans.

ditto.

lol what are you complaining for?

clans are basically teams made up of friends or similiary skilled players set out to dominate. if they are kicking your arse, get better at the game or go join another server.

how do you think the raghead terrorists of the middle east feel when they war countries like the US and Australia? its not like they log onto forums to complain about it. lol.

clans are a great idea for multiplayer. adds much more depth into the gameplay, gives the essence of pure teamwork and quad tactics. everything you want out of a multiplayer session. obviously you have never been a part of one, if its not your cup of tea thats fine, but theres no need to complain about it, just move on.

1. Don't play in clan servers.

2. Join a clan

3. By playing people better than you, it will improve your skill.

4. What do you expect them to do? Its their way of practising and using their tactics against unknown opponents.

[QUOTE="dos4gw82"]

The worst trend ever in online multiplayer gaming. Especially in a game like Battlefield 2142.

Whenever you log on to a clan server, you know you're going to see about eight clan members on the same team completely murdering the other team made of completely random players. Why the hell can't half of them go to the other team? When a professional basketball team practices, they play against each other, not against a group of kids at a middle-school playground. It's incredibly lame. And then there's the admin privileges that most clan members have and horribly abuse. Just today I was kicked for telling a whining clan member to "just play."

Post your clan hate here. :p

ElectricNZ

That's not what clans are about.

Clans are for scrims and competing against other clans... the clans you speak of who dominate their own servers arent even real clans.

Correct -

Clan : Team of people upon which they perform competitively, or with competition in Mind.

Community: Group of people in which they operate a server, or wish to share an Affiliation with each other. Primarily Non Competitive.

Correct -

Clan : Team of people upon which they perform competitively, or with competition in Mind.

Community: Group of people in which they operate a server, or wish to share an Affiliation with each other. Primarily Non Competitive.

VRN-KingS-

Umm... No. A clan is not always about competition. A clan could consist out of people that do not care about competition and just play purely for fun and never competitively.

A clan is simply a group of people that play together and share the same interest. Different clans have different rules, ideas and goals. There are many different clans. Saying that all clans are the same is like saying that all people are the same. Everyone is different and everyone has a different way of doing things.

I've been together with my Battlefield 1942 clan for three years now. We've never been competitive and none of us even play the game anymore. We are still together for the fun of being together.RK-Mara

So if you don't play games together what do you do? Or just chat on the clan forum etc? Im assuming its like most clans are spread worldwide or nationwide.. not all local mates that know each other in real life.

[QUOTE="RK-Mara"]I've been together with my Battlefield 1942 clan for three years now. We've never been competitive and none of us even play the game anymore. We are still together for the fun of being together.Rattlesnake_8

So if you don't play games together what do you do? Or just chat on the clan forum etc? Im assuming its like most clans are spread worldwide or nationwide.. not all local mates that know each other in real life.

We do play games together, just not BF42 and we are a clan for a BF42 mod. It's mainly chatting and playing everything possible (except BF1942) together.

[QUOTE="VRN-KingS-"]

Correct -

Clan : Team of people upon which they perform competitively, or with competition in Mind.

Community: Group of people in which they operate a server, or wish to share an Affiliation with each other. Primarily Non Competitive.

BlackAlpha666

Umm... No. A clan is not always about competition. A clan could consist out of people that do not care about competition and just play purely for fun and never competitively.

A clan is simply a group of people that play together and share the same interest. Different clans have different rules, ideas and goals. There are many different clans. Saying that all clans are the same is like saying that all people are the same. Everyone is different and everyone has a different way of doing things.

Ummm no.

Your idea of people that play together and share the same interest sounds like the idea of a guild in a MMO.

Clans in fps games are primarily founded for the sole purpose of competing against other clans.

I totally sympathasise with what you're experiencing dos4gw82.
I too dislike being pitted against a group of clan members in a game where they have the advantages of teamspeak. It is true that they're not doing themselves any good because their opposition are just random players who, without the advantages of teamspeak, are disoriented in comparison. This makes their method of play ridiculous because they're not doing their skills any good as when it's time to use what they've learnt against another clan who also uses teamspeak, they won't have the experience.
I do believe it is unfair and a form of abuse by clan members when they play in this manner but because there's no real way to stop these unfair advantages, they're able to keep doing it.

Admins of gaming servers can be anyone. There's usually no long list of prerequisites that would require them to be highly educated and experienced. For example, they'd usually only have to be a friend of someone's or perhaps they were chosen because they have an allegiance with satan (which im sure is the case with many an admin). Because of this, they come in all shapes, sizes, ages, races and genders.
With that in mind, if an admin bosses you around and abuses their priveleges, you will always know it was because of that poor process through which they are elected that has, with this particular individual, obviously allowed a total moron to be made an admin.
This being a common occurence online, it's unfortunate but there's usually lots of servers to play on so finding one provided by decent people shouldn't be too hard.

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"][QUOTE="VRN-KingS-"]

Correct -

Clan : Team of people upon which they perform competitively, or with competition in Mind.

Community: Group of people in which they operate a server, or wish to share an Affiliation with each other. Primarily Non Competitive.

ElectricNZ

Umm... No. A clan is not always about competition. A clan could consist out of people that do not care about competition and just play purely for fun and never competitively.

A clan is simply a group of people that play together and share the same interest. Different clans have different rules, ideas and goals. There are many different clans. Saying that all clans are the same is like saying that all people are the same. Everyone is different and everyone has a different way of doing things.

Ummm no.

Your idea of people that play together and share the same interest sounds like the idea of a guild in a MMO.

Clans in fps games are primarily founded for the sole purpose of competing against other clans.

So people that play together and share the same interest, that's a MMO guild. Then what do you call a group of people that play together and share the same interest and play FPS games but don't play competetive against other clans? What about clans that play RPG games? Flight sims? RTS? Racing? And what's the difference between all of those?

No matter how you call it, it all has the same meaning. The only reason why you would use different names is to roleplay, even if just a tiny bit. Yes, this roleplaying even happends in FPS games. In which clans are often called uniforms.

By the way, I've been in atleast 2 clans that played FPS games not competitively against other clans but just for fun. Sometimes together with random people, sometimes against them and sometimes alone with other clan members. So that pretty much destroys your whole "FPS-clans-only-play-competitively theory".

[QUOTE="ElectricNZ"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"][QUOTE="VRN-KingS-"]

Correct -

Clan : Team of people upon which they perform competitively, or with competition in Mind.

Community: Group of people in which they operate a server, or wish to share an Affiliation with each other. Primarily Non Competitive.

BlackAlpha666

Umm... No. A clan is not always about competition. A clan could consist out of people that do not care about competition and just play purely for fun and never competitively.

A clan is simply a group of people that play together and share the same interest. Different clans have different rules, ideas and goals. There are many different clans. Saying that all clans are the same is like saying that all people are the same. Everyone is different and everyone has a different way of doing things.

Ummm no.

Your idea of people that play together and share the same interest sounds like the idea of a guild in a MMO.

Clans in fps games are primarily founded for the sole purpose of competing against other clans.

So people that play together and share the same interest, that's a MMO guild. Then what do you call a group of people that play together and share the same interest and play FPS games but don't play competetive against other clans? What about clans that play RPG games? Flight sims? RTS? Racing? And what's the difference between all of those?

No matter how you call it, it all has the same meaning. The only reason why you would use different names is to roleplay, even if just a tiny bit. Yes, this roleplaying even happends in FPS games. In which clans are often called uniforms.

By the way, I've been in atleast 2 clans that played FPS games not competitively against other clans but just for fun. Sometimes together with random people, sometimes against them and sometimes alone with other clan members. So that pretty much destroys your whole "FPS-clans-only-play-competitively theory".

No, then it means your clans weren't real clans.

With the right group of people,

being in a clan/team can be 100 times better than playing lonewolf. :D

Alot of fun good times on teamspeak / ventrilo while playing games. *sniff* lol

I agree. Clans are just so lame!
Who came up with the idea?
" i have no real friends but at least i know these people like to play the same game, YOURE MY FRIEND! lets gang up on these people and become terrible admins."

And you cant say to " respect admins . they paid for it" because if theyre abusing their Admin, they just title the server to say so. so you know youll be kicked when you tel someone to shut up.
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