I dont know a thing about processors(help plz)

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#1 Kitad
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so im kind of a noob when it comes to this hardware talk but for a while ive been reading and digging about making a good gaming computer but the talk about processors always confuses the hell out of me

I mean with all this dual core, multiple cores, overclocking(what the hell is that) talk,

So basicly i am running right now on a 2.26 GHz intel 4 processor but later on I wanted to upgrade my computer

My plan is to get like 1gig or 2 of ram, get vista and a directx 10 card

but I need a processor too and I seriously dont know which one would i require, the prices and how to install, i mean, i can install a gpu and ram on my own but is it hard to instal your own processor?

so yeah, could someone answer to me that questions(how processors work, what the hell is overclocking, and what processor i should get, and if it is hard to install)


oh and is there anything else im not taking into account when thinking about upgrading, i mean, is there anything else relevant to change besides the gpu, the cpu and the RAM?


thank you

PD: when is vista being released?
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so im kind of a noob when it comes to this hardware talk but for a while ive been reading and digging about making a good gaming computer but the talk about processors always confuses the hell out of me I mean with all this dual core, multiple cores, overclocking(what the hell is that) talk.
So basicly i am running right now on a 2.26 GHz intel 4 processor but later on I wanted to upgrade my computer
My plan is to get like 1gig or 2 of ram, get vista and a directx 10 card but I need a processor too and I seriously dont know which one would i require, the prices and how to install, i mean, i can install a gpu and ram on my own but is it hard to instal your own processor?

so yeah, could someone answer to me that questions(how processors work, what the hell is overclocking, and what processor i should get, and if it is hard to install)
oh and is there anything else im not taking into account when thinking about upgrading, i mean, is there anything else relevant to change besides the gpu, the cpu and the RAM?

thank you
PD: when is vista being released?
Kitad


Well he is a good balanced dx10 overclocking system right now:
$90 Windows XP Home with a Vista Coupon
$318 E6600
$50 Tuniq120
$150 Asus 650i
$204 Patriot 2x1gb DDR2 667
$400 evga 8800gts
$90 WesternDigital 320gb 7200rpm 16mb 
$30 NEC DVD-Burner 18x
$106 OCZ GameXstream 700w
$50 CoolerMaster Centurion 5

Total:
$1488

Processors- basically the brain of a computer, tells everything else what to do, everything is there to support the processor in doing what you want. A few years ago, the only thing you really needed to know about processor is the clock speed, mhz/ghz, the higher the better i.e. faster. But recently with the AMD64 architecture K8, speed didn't mean too much if the processor can do more work at once. AMD held the price/performance advantage for a few years. Summer 06, Intel released it's Core architecture, retaking the price/performance lead from AMD. A $320 E6600 is faster then AMD's $800 FX-60, now $440.

Core2Duo is on 65nm production process, the smaller the better, consuming less power and creating less heat. The efficient architecture and small production process leads to large overclocks.

Overclocking is raising your processor front side bus usually with increasing the volts, making your processor run faster then it came from the factory.

The lower priced Core2Duo's have had a price/performance lead over it's equal AM2 x2 counterpart(not sure if they still are cheaper) but also are able to reach 50% overclocks pretty easily, into or close to 3ghz.

Basically Core2Duo is the way to go atm.

Edit- whoops forgot the Vista release, it is at the end of Jan.

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#3 Kitad
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thanks for ur response *so, i should buy core 2 duo, right? whats its price? and is it hard to install on my own? *oh and... the mother board... how does that enter in the equation? i need to get a new motherboard(since mine is really really old) *and if i dont install a higher a new processor i wont be able to run my gpu and ram correctly right? *u think that geforce 8800 is the directx10 gpu which i should buy? that thing is huge *and btw when is vista coming out?
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#4 LordEC911
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[QUOTE="Kitad"]thanks for ur response *so, i should buy core 2 duo, right? whats its price? and is it hard to install on my own? *oh and... the mother board... how does that enter in the equation? i need to get a new motherboard(since mine is really really old) *and if i dont install a higher a new processor i wont be able to run my gpu and ram correctly right? *u think that geforce 8800 is the directx10 gpu which i should buy? that thing is huge *and btw when is vista coming out?



Yes you should buy Core2Duo.
I built that system of what I think you should buy, if you have about a $1500 budget.

~$180 E6300
~$220 E6400
~$320 E6600
You shouldn't buy the other Core 2's unless you have a super high budget.

It isn't that hard, you basically plop the chip onto your motherboard, there are guides you can google or read in the stickies.  Take some thermal paste, unless the stock heatsink already has some on, place some about the size of a grain of rice right in the middle of the processor and install the heatsink without lifting it back off the processor.

You should probably get a 650i if you are thinking about SLI in the future and want to overclock well.
680i if you have a higher budget or Gigabyte DS3 or S3 if you have a smaller budget.

BTW- with the Core2Duo you will need DDR2 ram, which is listed in the build.

With a GTS your will need at least an E6400 to get the majority of the performance out of the 8800GTS.
The 8800GTS is pretty large for a GPU, but not the largest, that would be the 8800GTX.
If you want a dx10 card and don't have a huge budget, the GTS is the card for you, unless you want to wait a couple months.

Vista is the end of Jan.

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what's the price range of a good motherboard?
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#6 littlehelp
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what's the price range of a good motherboard?HeadHunter123
Wow, way to go back in time. $150 - $250