I fail to see the uses of mid range non gaming computer

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#1 RubiksCubeReven
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From what I know, office use computers are meant to do easy tasks like web surfing and word documents. Why don't everybody use netbooks then, or for that matter, cheap widescreen laptops with basic packages?

If you really need power get a real decent "high end" computer with the power to do what you need, whether it's video processing and such.

What's the purpose of using a mid end laptop or computer when you don't need the power?

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#2 CellAnimation
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Most computers are actually used in businesses not homes. Why would a business buy a high end computer, when they can get a decent mid-range system with all of the support buying a pre-made tier 1 business machine gets you? Also most businesses actually lease computer hardware, so every 3 years or so they just get the latest model, rinse repeat.
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#3 RubiksCubeReven
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get laptop if not heavy duty, and i mean really cheap laptop, perhaps a single core non dedicated graphix that costs 229 $ with 15 inch screen

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#4 C_Rule
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Lolol, what a dumb topic... Some industries/workplaces require powerful machines, but that does not mean they need gaming computers. Also, laptops cost more than desktops, herp derp.
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#5 gmaster456
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Maybe because for some people a netbook is too weak and a highend computer is overkill hence the use of "midrange" computers.
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#6 bostonfan05
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I think I know what the OP is getting at. I used to work at my college computer store and the computers purchased by departments were often WAY overkill for their intended use. For instance spending an extra $1000 on a Macbook Pro to upgrade from 4GB to 16GB of RAM is just rediculous. Of course it is possible these people ran software that required it but idk...

Having said that there is of course reason to purchase a mid range computer, provided you are going to run more than Office and websurf. Just because you are not going to play games does not mean you should buy the bottom of the barrel.

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#7 bostonfan05
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Oh I was also going to add the computers we typically have at school are somewhat expensive Dells (around $800). These are of course not meant for gaming and are somewhat overkill for their intended use.

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It keeps them a little futureproof. Would you rather pay $300 for a new computer every few years or $500 for something that will last you considerably longer?
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#9 Urworstnhtmare
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For instance spending an extra $1000 on a Macbook Pro to upgrade from 4GB to 16GB of RAM is just rediculous.

bostonfan05

Well that particular scenario is ridiculous because the latest Macbook Pros only take up to 8GB of RAM....

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It keeps them a little futureproof. Would you rather pay $300 for a new computer every few years or $500 for something that will last you considerably longer?Xeros606

$200 won't keep a computer relevant considerably longer.

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#12 RubiksCubeReven
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Lolol, what a dumb topic... Some industries/workplaces require powerful machines, but that does not mean they need gaming computers. gaming laptops do, but laptops have have portability and lower power usage, and at a price of 200 $, anything cheap for a desktop is not worth it UNLESS you can build a 100 $rig[QUOTE="gmaster456"]Maybe because for some people a netbook is too weak and a highend computer is overkill hence the use of "midrange" computers.C_Rule
It keeps them a little futureproof. Would you rather pay $300 for a new computer every few years or $500 for something that will last you considerably longer?Xeros606
future proof? we're not talking about decade old machines, we're talking about 7 -8 year old single core processor technology, futureproof for more extensive word typing?

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you don't need a 500 $ machine to watch videos, 200$ or 300 $ does the job excluding gaming too

We already on pc hardware forum tell people, no dedicated graphics card, at most flash games, so i do not get what "weak" is, you need more power to do what? then at most you say, everything is slower, like slower loadup times, slower web browsing, loadup times are nothing serious, but if you think web browsing is slow, you still don't need a high end dual core or quad to do the job

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Easier to fix on the spot, since their in huge numbers theres going to bigger numbers in breakdowns. Also I think that they dont want their employees taking their computers (laptops) home like ever, because thats asking for trouble.

My cousin runs a small office that actually uses laptops.

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buy a mid range computer thats cheaper than a high end gaming rig. Use it for more than it is needed. See how long it lasts. Buy a netbook. Terrible from the start. Laptoip you can't put upgrades in later if the computer is moved to a more pc heavy department. Most business's (that aren't huge) use dual cores or p4's still. no need for anything else.
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#15 flyingsnail
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Not all offices just run word documents. Take sage accounts for example, it has recommended requirements of 2GHz processor and 1GB ram. Not too bad until you find yourself working with a couple of thousand clients/purchasers ect in you accounts and your ram soon fills up. This is really noticeable if you ask it to do something like sort by people who owe money. In the business world time is money and companies prefer to use programs to their full potential rather than just about cutting it. Much like games, business software is always changing/evolving and again much like games this change usually evolves an increase in system requirements. There is a place for everything in the market, those that don't need much power should buy low end, those that need a bit more power should buy mid range.
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#16 bostonfan05
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[QUOTE="bostonfan05"]

For instance spending an extra $1000 on a Macbook Pro to upgrade from 4GB to 16GB of RAM is just rediculous.

Urworstnhtmare

Well that particular scenario is ridiculous because the latest Macbook Pros only take up to 8GB of RAM....

Ah, well I have seen $1000 upgrades, perhaps on a different make of laptop. Thanks for the corrections.

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Most offices run programs that would likely make a laptop choke and die.

Apart from that Desktops are far cheaper (this being a key factor, nomatter the laptop you can always get a stationady for less, that can the same or more).

Overheating and short lifeexpectency are also reasons most Offices and firms stay away from laptops most of the time, if you have a laptop run 24/7 t WILL get awefully warm, it does not stress well, it WILL die with time, a stationary is far less prone to that, altho it still happens over time (you know air circulation, more space = longer life).

I think those are the main reasons, In fact, unless you are mobile, ther eis a grand total of 0 reason to have a laptop, if you ARE mobile then there are alot of reason.

If you need the same PC to work at home, and at work, I can assure you that they will be laptops, if you study, or travel alot laptops are needed, heck where I live you are given a laptop when you get into collage, due to the need to have a PC you can work on both at home and at school, the same with a majority of the universitys.

Baseline is that, alot of people seem to WANT laptops to replace desktops, but those people are usually unaware of the limitations a laptop automatically will pose.

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Because a gaming computer doesn't have all the essential programs that a business owner might need. I know for a fact that if you were to use my gaming PC to start a small business, you wouldn't even have Microsoft Word, or Power Point. :P
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Because most businesses have a team of techs who can when the times comes just install more RAM or better CPUs or repair and fix broken down ones, try getting a motherboard for a netbook within the funds of the business, plus most of these costs get ticked off by someone who knows nothing about computers and will look at "Netbook motherboard - £200" and just say "WHAT?!?". Its not all just about having the most effective and efficient computer at that time, businesses want the biggest return possible and this usually happens with desktops.

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A $300 computer vs. $300 laptop:

- Easier to fix and replace parts

- Doesn't overheat

- Faster

- More accessible, doesn't have a cramped keyboard / keypad

- More jacks and ports for whatever

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#21 Liam00148
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people at buisnesses maybe...

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Who ate all the donuts?

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From what I know, office use computers are meant to do easy tasks like web surfing and word documents. Why don't everybody use netbooks then, or for that matter, cheap widescreen laptops with basic packages?

If you really need power get a real decent "high end" computer with the power to do what you need, whether it's video processing and such.

What's the purpose of using a mid end laptop or computer when you don't need the power?

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First off, like others already stated, most mid-range computers are used in a working environment. Companies they don't send someone to the store around the corner to get a few computers on the double. Companies get in touch with other companies like Dell, HP or whatever, and a deal is made according the wishes of the client.

Then, according to the client's wishes, computers --usually desktops for the lower echelons-- are being prepped and assembled with regard to the different areas of the client's company and then delivered. For the higher echelons, laptops might be involved.

When it consists companies like Industrial Light And Magic or Pixar, then some of those computers might be very high end, so high end that the likes of us are unlikely to see such computers on the common market. Other are mid-range, again in accordance with the needs of the different divisions of a company.

Secondly, not every individual has the cash to get a high end gaming machine. I myself for instance had to settle for years with lower performing parts because I couldn't afford the high end stuff. So, I was very happy that mid range parts existed, to still be able to reach a certain level of satisfaction when gaming...

That you fail to see the necessity of mid-range non-gaming computers could have to do with a certain short-sightedness on your part, I'm afraid...

There you go ;)

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#25 RubiksCubeReven
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[QUOTE="RubiksCubeReven"]

From what I know, office use computers are meant to do easy tasks like web surfing and word documents. Why don't everybody use netbooks then, or for that matter, cheap widescreen laptops with basic packages?

If you really need power get a real decent "high end" computer with the power to do what you need, whether it's video processing and such.

What's the purpose of using a mid end laptop or computer when you don't need the power?

JimmyJumpy

First off, like others already stated, most mid-range computers are used in a working environment. Companies they don't send someone to the store around the corner to get a few computers on the double. Companies get in touch with other companies like Dell, HP or whatever, and a deal is made according the wishes of the client.

Then, according to the client's wishes, computers --usually desktops for the lower echelons-- are being prepped and assembled with regard to the different areas of the client's company and then delivered. For the higher echelons, laptops might be involved.

When it consists companies like Industrial Light And Magic or Pixar, then some of those computers might be very high end, so high end that the likes of us are unlikely to see such computers on the common market. Other are mid-range, again in accordance with the needs of the different divisions of a company.

Secondly, not every individual has the cash to get a high end gaming machine. I myself for instance had to settle for years with lower performing parts because I couldn't afford the high end stuff. So, I was very happy that mid range parts existed, to still be able to reach a certain level of satisfaction when gaming...

That you fail to see the necessity of mid-range non-gaming computers could have to do with a certain short-sightedness on your part, I'm afraid...

There you go ;)

I think we need to redefine high end and low end.

we already can have 500$ desktops that are mid range gaming uses, so when i ask why people get mid range, I mean something like a high end dual core and quad core

What do you mean settle with lower performing parts, can they not do the job? if they can, your argument is invalid, If they can't , do you need 800$ high end rigs? if no, your argument is invalid.


When offices don't need that much power, why do they buy expensive desktops then? If you actually need the power, THEN buy the desktop right for you

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#26 Bedizen
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From what I know, office use computers are meant to do easy tasks like web surfing and word documents.

RubiksCubeReven

Do you understand that offices produce a variety of services, including those which are graphically intensive or running queries from thousands of line of data?

Which business primarily use computers for word.docs and a bit of websurfing?

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#27 fishing666
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i wish all businesses used high end computers..then we could all afford a high end computer because of the mass production
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[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

[QUOTE="RubiksCubeReven"]

From what I know, office use computers are meant to do easy tasks like web surfing and word documents. Why don't everybody use netbooks then, or for that matter, cheap widescreen laptops with basic packages?

If you really need power get a real decent "high end" computer with the power to do what you need, whether it's video processing and such.

What's the purpose of using a mid end laptop or computer when you don't need the power?

RubiksCubeReven

First off, like others already stated, most mid-range computers are used in a working environment. Companies they don't send someone to the store around the corner to get a few computers on the double. Companies get in touch with other companies like Dell, HP or whatever, and a deal is made according the wishes of the client.

Then, according to the client's wishes, computers --usually desktops for the lower echelons-- are being prepped and assembled with regard to the different areas of the client's company and then delivered. For the higher echelons, laptops might be involved.

When it consists companies like Industrial Light And Magic or Pixar, then some of those computers might be very high end, so high end that the likes of us are unlikely to see such computers on the common market. Other are mid-range, again in accordance with the needs of the different divisions of a company.

Secondly, not every individual has the cash to get a high end gaming machine. I myself for instance had to settle for years with lower performing parts because I couldn't afford the high end stuff. So, I was very happy that mid range parts existed, to still be able to reach a certain level of satisfaction when gaming...

That you fail to see the necessity of mid-range non-gaming computers could have to do with a certain short-sightedness on your part, I'm afraid...

There you go ;)

I think we need to redefine high end and low end.

we already can have 500$ desktops that are mid range gaming uses, so when i ask why people get mid range, I mean something like a high end dual core and quad core

What do you mean settle with lower performing parts, can they not do the job? if they can, your argument is invalid, If they can't , do you need 800$ high end rigs? if no, your argument is invalid.


When offices don't need that much power, why do they buy expensive desktops then? If you actually need the power, THEN buy the desktop right for you

What:question:

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When a business invests in new computers they will usually go into a contract and either lease them or buy them in bulk from Dell, Apple, HP and such. 9/10 an office environment will need a good dual core PC with plenty or ram and no need for graphics. The most important thing in the office is ergonomics hence why you wouldn't use a laptop all day. Most business that require high end PC will use Apple and will usually be needed for heavy graphic work which will need completely different hardware to your 'gaming PC'.

Then your looking at servers and workstations which will be as basic as a netbook just with a keyboard, mouse and desent screen, its all about keeping within health and safty while keeping costs down and productivity up.

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Laptops such for home use as when something breaks its going to cost you an arm and a leg to get it repaired.

If you just want a office PC, then a core2duo @2.5Ghz & 2GB's of RAM is PLENTY!