i give you 1200 dollars.....

What kind of fool wouldn't wait just THREE days to be able to upgrade to next-gen video cards?

well if its 3 days fine, lets say in a month. I thought it wasnt till Q1 for most of the new stuff.Cyproz420

I'm surprised you haven't heard. ATI is releasing their DX11 cards on September 22 and 23, in US and Europe respectively.

Get it in 3 days and get:

i7 920

6GB DDR3 1600MHz Triple Channel

Asus or Gigabyte X58 Mobo (Choose your price range, look for 16x/16x Xfire if possible.)

NZXT Tempest

HD 5870

1TB WD HDD

750W Corsair

Should be under $1200.

+ ATI 5800 SERIES CARD = $1300-$1400. Amazing build.....

+ ATI 5800 SERIES CARD = $1300-$1400. Amazing build.....

CStheGreat

will i be able to buy one of the HD 5 series off newegg in 3 days or will it be like a week before they get some in?Cyproz420

It will hit stores on the 22nd, and last time I checked, Newegg is an online vendor / store.

sweet, are these the ones with that eyefinity thing they are talking about?Cyproz420

It's only the 5870, and you have to get the Eyefinity Edition, since not everybody is going to need SIX display ports.

ok well what new features are on these amazing cards? or if u dont wanna type where can i read about these new HD5 series coming outCyproz420

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/1.html

dont get i5. i7 920 or amd 965 only

core i7 too much money do you want waste 300 dollar on X58 ? think not go with core i5 best for the price.

AMD 965 is better then i5... if amd 965 and i7 trade blows in benchmarks, how can i5 be better

AMD 965 is better then i5...

arya24

I'll start this conclusion with what AMD must do in response to Lynnfield. The Core i5 750 is a great processor at $196, in fact, it's the best quad-core CPU you can buy at that price today. In nearly every case it's faster than AMD's Phenom II X4 965 BE, despite the AMD processor costing almost another $50. Granted you can probably save some money on an integrated 785G motherboard, but if you're comparing ~$120 motherboards the AMD CPU is simply overpriced.AnandTech Review

Source

dont get i5. i7 920 or amd 965 only

arya24

And to people who say LGA 1156 is cheaper than AM3...AM3=$245+55; LGA 1156=$200+$100. They're equally priced. The 955 will give you best price/performance at least for gaming. If you wanna do some advanced tasks, get an Intel processor and even then you should choose the i7-920.

Not to mention the i5 isn't good for multiple-GPU setups.

[QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

+ ATI 5800 SERIES CARD = $1300-$1400. Amazing build.....

Cyproz420

Any DVD burner would do. And as others stated, you can put that money towards the Core i7 860 which has higher clock speeds and has HT if you plan on doing any kind of video/photo editing....

[QUOTE="Cyproz420"][QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

+ ATI 5800 SERIES CARD = $1300-$1400. Amazing build.....

CStheGreat

Any DVD burner would do. And as others stated, you can put that money towards the Core i7 860 which has higher clock speeds and has HT if you plan on doing any kind of video/photo editing....

I say its nice when people get a processor that they want; but when it interferes with your budget, that's when I object.

I suggest an AMD Phenom II X4 955.

[QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Cyproz420"] hey man i like that setup, but whats a different option for that blu ray player, something cheaper, cause i have a blu ray player alrdy, unless discs will soon be blu ray instead of dvd.smc91352

Any DVD burner would do. And as others stated, you can put that money towards the Core i7 860 which has higher clock speeds and has HT if you plan on doing any kind of video/photo editing....

I say its nice when people get a processor that they want; but when it interferes with your budget, that's when I object.

I suggest an AMD Phenom II X4 955.

[QUOTE="smc91352"]

[QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

Any DVD burner would do. And as others stated, you can put that money towards the Core i7 860 which has higher clock speeds and has HT if you plan on doing any kind of video/photo editing....

CStheGreat

I say its nice when people get a processor that they want; but when it interferes with your budget, that's when I object.

I suggest an AMD Phenom II X4 955.

Well its really not correct to say that the i7-860 is better than AMD; but I guess you were initially right about the budget.

smc91352

The Core i5/i7s have absolutely no contest. They simply are the best CPUs there are.

[QUOTE="smc91352"]

Well its really not correct to say that the i7-860 is better than AMD; but I guess you were initially right about the budget.

kaitanuvax

The Core i5/i7s have absolutely no contest. They simply are the best CPUs there are.

[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]

[QUOTE="smc91352"]

Well its really not correct to say that the i7-860 is better than AMD; but I guess you were initially right about the budget.

smc91352

The Core i5/i7s have absolutely no contest. They simply are the best CPUs there are.

Best for gaming? AMD's best Phenom II x965 doesn't even come close to the stock clocked i7 920, let alone the i5 750.

[QUOTE="smc91352"]

[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]

The Core i5/i7s have absolutely no contest. They simply are the best CPUs there are.

kaitanuvax

Best for gaming? AMD's best Phenom II x965 doesn't even come close to the stock clocked i7 920, let alone the i5 750.

Not this again; lets just agree to disagree...And agree that the AMD are better value. I did say that I support people getting their favorite CPU, so....

smc91352

I wasn't referring to value, but the Core i5 takes the enthusiast price/performance segment this round, so that's false there. The lower segments, however, you are correct, AMD does has better value.

Don't get the i5. Even if it may be better then the i7 in some cases. If you get the i7 you would be future-proof for the i9. That way you don't have to buy a new motherboard. Where in the i5's case you will need too. So, do yourself and buy the i7.RedxSniper

Don't get the i5. Even if it may be better then the i7 in some cases. If you get the i7 you would be future-proof for the i9. That way you don't have to buy a new motherboard. Where in the i5's case you will need too. So, do yourself and buy the i7.RedxSniper

To be honest, if you get a i5 or i7 now, you would be set until 8 cores start rolling around. The majority of games havent even caught up with quad cores yet.

[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]

[QUOTE="smc91352"]

Well its really not correct to say that the i7-860 is better than AMD; but I guess you were initially right about the budget.

smc91352

The Core i5/i7s have absolutely no contest. They simply are the best CPUs there are.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3641&p=7

The Core i7 860 wiped the floor with the competition, including the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, in just about every test.

Price wise, the AMDs were a better choice, until Intel released the Core i5 570 and Core i7 860. Numbers don't lie.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3641&p=7

The Core i7 860 wiped the floor with the competition, including the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, in just about every test.

CStheGreat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjF4YjvJLe4#t=1m21s

[QUOTE="CStheGreat"]Price wise, the AMDs were a better choice, until Intel released the Core i5 570 and Core i7 860. Numbers don't lie.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3641&p=7

The Core i7 860 wiped the floor with the competition, including the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, in just about every test.

smc91352

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjF4YjvJLe4#t=1m21s

[QUOTE="RedxSniper"]Don't get the i5. Even if it may be better then the i7 in some cases. If you get the i7 you would be future-proof for the i9. That way you don't have to buy a new motherboard. Where in the i5's case you will need too. So, do yourself and buy the i7.smc91352

Does this $1000 CPU argument really make sense? Even if i9 CPU's cost $1000 when they come out, how long do you think that will last? i9 CPU's will quickly fall to a price where the mass market can afford them and it may suck for some people to not be able to buy one without upgrading their mobo at the same time. If I were buying a rig now I would spend a tad more to go with the 1366 boards in the knowledge that I would be better prepared for the future. If that isn't in your budget then fine, but if you can manage to do that I would say that you should.

AMD 965 is better then i5... if amd 965 and i7 trade blows in benchmarks, how can i5 be better

arya24

That is the same question I'm asking myself... Months ago, PII and I7 were trading blows in gaming, x264 encoding and encryption, while now I5 is better than both with inferior architecture. Hm...

[QUOTE="smc91352"]

Well its really not correct to say that the i7-860 is better than AMD; but I guess you were initially right about the budget.

kaitanuvax

The Core i5/i7s have absolutely no contest. They simply are the best CPUs there are.

I5 is a marketing gimmick for people like you, while I7 has a contender: Phenom II 965. I7 870 is abnormally overpriced and so is 860, but a bit less.

Dude! You are putting benchmarks at over 100fps! You pay 50 more dollars for 2 more fps at an already enormously high framerate. And saying I5 is an enthusiast part is retarded. Please...................

Slig0

So what if they're over 100 fps? It still disproves smc's bold claim that the AMD 965 is better at gaming than the Core iXs. Also, last time I checked the i5 is $199 and the 965 $245. Motherboard and memory accounted for, they will end up around the same price, so I don't know what you're talking about by paying $50 more.

Retarded? Did you overlook the fact that the i5 is nearly on par with the i7? Or that AMD's BEST doesn't even match it in gaming performance? Let's not even talk about CPU-application performances...

Funny how AMD's highest offering, the Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, gets stomped in almost every benchmark by a "marketing gimmick." Intel is offering a superior product for $50 cheaper. That's actually kind of sad when you think about it. Again, people lie and complain, numbers don't.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3641&p=1

Funny how AMD's highest offering, the Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, gets stomped in almost every benchmark by a "marketing gimmick." Intel is offering a superior product for $50 cheaper. That's actually kind of sad when you think about it. Again, people lie and complain, numbers don't.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3641&p=1

CStheGreat

Well how do you explain I7 gets obliterated in many gaming benchmarks on CF configurations? Hm, how is i5 faster then when it is inferior? BRIBE

http://www.modreactor.com/english/Reviews/Test-ATI-HD-4890-1GB-CrossFire-AMD-Phenom-II-955-BE-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920.html

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/pii_965/10.html

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3533&p=8

In our previous testing with the 8.12 drivers, the Intel systems would generate minimum frame rates in the 23~24fps range on a couple of runs and then jump to their current results or higher on the others. Guess what, we still noticed that problem with the 9.3 drivers. However, the hitch and pausing we encountered previously was mitigated somewhat in our new tests. It was only in intensive ground scenes with numerous units that we really noticed the problem and it was primarily with the Q9550 platform. Both Phenom II systems had extremely stable frame rates along with very fluid game play during the heavy action sequences.

What about the game play experience? As we mentioned earlier, the Intel Q9550 platform had some problems with minimum frame rates throughout testing - not just in the benchmarks, but also during game play in various levels and online. The i7 platform would behave in the same manner at times, but the game play experience with it has certainly improved with the 9.3 driver set and BIOS upgrades. The problem is very likely driver related in some manner (as the man who helped to start DirectX once put it, "the drivers are always broken"), but nevertheless this continues to be a problem on the two Intel platforms.

I fail to see how the I5 can be better than those two then. Oh, but I do: B R I B E

[QUOTE="Slig0"]

Dude! You are putting benchmarks at over 100fps! You pay 50 more dollars for 2 more fps at an already enormously high framerate. And saying I5 is an enthusiast part is retarded. Please...................

kaitanuvax

So what if they're over 100 fps? It still disproves smc's bold claim that the AMD 965 is better at gaming than the Core iXs. Also, last time I checked the i5 is $199 and the 965 $245. Motherboard and memory accounted for, they will end up around the same price, so I don't know what you're talking about by paying $50 more.

Retarded? Did you overlook the fact that the i5 is nearly on par with the i7? Or that AMD's BEST doesn't even match it in gaming performance? Let's not even talk about CPU-application performances...

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/09/08/intel-core-i5-and-i7-lynnfield-cpu-review/7
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-870_9.html#sect0

Unless you OC Phenom II X4 955 at 3.94Ghz I doubt to see core i7 870 / Core i5 750 being lower then Phenom II X4 In any game