I hate NeverWinter Nights, am I alone...?

Sorry for talking about such an old game. But I am massively disappointed in it compared to the Infinity Engine games like Baldur's Gate etc.

Wtf happened?

Going to 3D means it has uglier graphics than the lovely 2D games, and the camera controls really bugged me too. I can either have a chase cam that swings about like a psycho, making me feel ill, or I can manually adjust it which is a constant annoyance imo.

I can only control one character instead of a whole party, so less tactical gameplay, less party interactions, less interesting backstories, less classes/spells/equipment/items to customise... And the gameplay basically boils down to watching one dude smacking at other dudes...

I found the "wheel" system kinda lame to use also, not too bad but not as simple as the icons of Baldur's Gate.

And this one is definatly personal preference but I hate that I'm trapped in a city, forced to try and find a cure to a disaease. I created a filthy dwarf mercenary, I wanted to wander the world making money and finding treasure, not hemmed into some city being a hero! Plus the city is mainly places to fight, few enough people and shops and whatnot, compared to Athkatla in BG2.

To be fair I only played the game for ~3 hours so it probably does get much better. But to go from the sheer genius that is Baldur's Gate to this... mess... is shockingly disappointing :(

Yes you are alone, it's Bioware, it's quality.

Yes you are alone, it's Bioware, it's quality.

Gimpy2k7

Na your not alone, NWN is a terrible game on its own honestly. The reason to play NWN is for the multiplayer and mod tools.

NWN2 is much beter on its own.

I seriously could never get into NVN. What I did not like was that you could only use one character, and the story is a bit slow. I really want to finish it though, since I am in act 2.

"hate" is too intense of an emotion for me to have toward such bland game as NWN (SP).

DnD hack n' slash I'll go for Icewind Dales.

however, the strength of NWN is gamers' mods and mp, and it's appreciated by gamers who're into those.

btw, NWN2, on the other hand, is excellent, especially you playthrough the OC and MotB.

Yes you are alone, it's Bioware, it's quality.

Gimpy2k7

Im fairly sure that most people will agree with you. NWN was only good for mulitplayer and modding. The single player campaign was bland but hate might not be the right word. The campaign was bland and un-memorable but the game mechanics were still great and its class system was more refined.

NWN2 was/is horrible and its multiplayer aspects remain broken to this day. I did like Baldurs Gate. You should try Planescape if you havent already.

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Yes you are alone, it's Bioware, it's quality.

Vfanek

I never managed to play even 3 hours of NWN, it was awkward, NWN 2 on the other hand had a slow start but at least it gave you the impression that it will be even better and it was, way better.

If you judge solely on the first campaign then yes it's not really great, that game shines in the modules made from fans.

It does look like garbage compared to infinity engine tho, can't argue with that.

In any case, you absolutely have to play mods to enjoy NWN, it's where it shines and there is many mods who stand up take to commercial rpgs and knock them out. There is literally thousands of them out by now.

I really liked NWN. Played it for many wonderful hours both sp and mp. I couldn't get past all the crashing that NWN2 put me through to give it a fair assessment. Seems like maybe I need to give it another shot if I ever find the time.

jade empire was mediocre and shallow.

I loved Neverwinter Nights. I think I've put more time into that than any other game ever.

Also: what's with all the Jade Empire hate? I loved that game to bits. It's brilliant in my opinion.

Na your not alone, NWN is a terrible game on its own honestly. The reason to play NWN is for the multiplayer and mod tools.

NWN2 is much beter on its own.

NWN's power is in it's toolset and multiplayer as others have said, to this day I'm still building my persistent module with my friend, the possiblities for inifinite adventures is really there unlike other games. Our website is http://sites.google.com/site/valikorlia1/ although the server is down and we're not currently hosting sessions, we're going to wait till we're back in the building and dming mood before putting it back up.

Join a persistent role-play world and you are almost guaranteed to have loads of fun.

Sorry for talking about such an old game. But I am massively disappointed in it compared to the Infinity Engine games like Baldur's Gate etc.

Wtf happened?

Going to 3D means it has uglier graphics than the lovely 2D games, and the camera controls really bugged me too. I can either have a chase cam that swings about like a psycho, making me feel ill, or I can manually adjust it which is a constant annoyance imo.

I can only control one character instead of a whole party, so less tactical gameplay, less party interactions, less interesting backstories, less classes/spells/equipment/items to customise... And the gameplay basically boils down to watching one dude smacking at other dudes...

I found the "wheel" system kinda lame to use also, not too bad but not as simple as the icons of Baldur's Gate.

And this one is definatly personal preference but I hate that I'm trapped in a city, forced to try and find a cure to a disaease. I created a filthy dwarf mercenary, I wanted to wander the world making money and finding treasure, not hemmed into some city being a hero! Plus the city is mainly places to fight, few enough people and shops and whatnot, compared to Athkatla in BG2.

To be fair I only played the game for ~3 hours so it probably does get much better. But to go from the sheer genius that is Baldur's Gate to this... mess... is shockingly disappointing :(

locopatho

The SP campaign of NWN is only 1/3 of the game or moreso like a tech demo. NWN was catered towards a toolkit, DM and Multiplayer.

I think NWN2 is a more suitable game, the expansion, MotB is probably the closest glimpse of the infinity engine games that you'll get.

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Yes you are alone, it's Bioware, it's quality.

locopatho

Na your not alone, NWN is a terrible game on its own honestly. The reason to play NWN is for the multiplayer and mod tools.

NWN2 is much beter on its own.

JangoWuzHere

Na your not alone, NWN is a terrible game on its own honestly. The reason to play NWN is for the multiplayer and mod tools.JangoWuzHere

^This.

The official campaign is garbage.

I don't like Neverwinter Nights (Bioware) at all

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I love Neverwinter Nights 2 (Obsidian) - awesome game

You only played 3 hours...... Neverwinter NIghts, like many other rpgs take a little bit to really get going imo.

GO back and give it a bit more time, its a great series, though not for everyone.

I didn't like it all, but for very different reasons. The game was based on the D&D 3.0 ruleset. At the time I started playing, I was playing D&D 3.5. So going back to 3.0 I missed a lot of great things that appeared in 3.5. It was a regression and hampered my enjoyment of the game as a whole. I also didn't like NWN 2 for similar reasons. I liked that it was based on 3.5 ruleset but I have many books that were released and I kept thinking to myself "I wish I had this feat/clas/spell/skill use/magic item" etc. It just didn't satsify me in the way a traditional D&D game does.

Plus, the story didn't help as it never held my attention. I also hated not controlling more than 2 guys. D&D is a party based game, not a game of your main guy and a hireling liek Diablo II.

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DanielDust

I never managed to play even 3 hours of NWN, it was awkward, NWN 2 on the other hand had a slow start but at least it gave you the impression that it will be even better and it was, way better.