I hate Windows vista

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#1 zekere
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First, my Supreme Commander failed to work properly . There wasn't any sound at all . After a hundred possible sollutions, i just quit playing because nothing helped me at all . Then, my heroes of Might and magic 5 game started making my computer shut down, giving blue screens when rebooting . Now, yesterday, i bought Starcraft and Brood War on Greatest Hits and guess what . It crashes . I'm sick of it . I am not playing games again on Windows Vista . My computer runs stable with every program without issues, but when I dare play a game, something goes horribly wrong every single time .

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First, my Supreme Commander failed to work properly . There wasn't any sound at all . After a hundred possible sollutions, i just quit playing because nothing helped me at all . Then, my heroes of Might and magic 5 game started making my computer shut down, giving blue screens when rebooting . Now, yesterday, i bought Starcraft and Brood War on Greatest Hits and guess what . It crashes . I'm sick of it . I am not playing games again on Windows Vista . My computer runs stable with every program without issues, but when I dare play a game, something goes horribly wrong every single time .

zekere
If you're having problems only running games, then to me it seems you're having issues with your GPU....but that's just my guess.
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#3 Neo_revolution7
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[QUOTE="zekere"]

First, my Supreme Commander failed to work properly . There wasn't any sound at all . After a hundred possible sollutions, i just quit playing because nothing helped me at all . Then, my heroes of Might and magic 5 game started making my computer shut down, giving blue screens when rebooting . Now, yesterday, i bought Starcraft and Brood War on Greatest Hits and guess what . It crashes . I'm sick of it . I am not playing games again on Windows Vista . My computer runs stable with every program without issues, but when I dare play a game, something goes horribly wrong every single time .

neatfeatguy

If you're having problems only running games, then to me it seems you're having issues with your GPU....but that's just my guess.

i had the same probs with vista but i think it might have been one of the updates i thought it was my gpu or mobo for a while but after i got win 7 everything was fine...but thats just my take on it.

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#4 zekere
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Interesting . I play on a notebook computer using a Gforce 9600M GT . My drivers are all updated . I found the issues I have on forums but never a suitable solution . I have problems with all my games .

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#5 zekere
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Okay, it seems like it is time to buy a new computer then ... I hate you Microsoft . You make PC gaming a living hell to make your profits .

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#6 Neo_revolution7
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Okay, it seems like it is time to buy a new computer then ... I hate you Microsoft . You make PC gaming a living hell to make your profits .

zekere

vista wasn't all that bad just had some bugs, windows 7 is phenominal tho :)

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#7 Captain__Tripps
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Okay, it seems like it is time to buy a new computer then ... I hate you Microsoft . You make PC gaming a living hell to make your profits .

zekere
How is it MS fault that you probably have faulty hardware? Bluescreens and crashes are usually hardware related. Games stress your computer more than apps. Maybe you are over heating. Have you checked that?
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#8 kungfool69
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we had Supcom working on two vista machines fine, but u might need the Core Maximizer if u want the best performance. win7 didnt seen to need the core maximizer however. also tmake sure ur running in Admin mode to. otherwise ur one of the few people who seems to know HOW to use a PC and is STILL having issues with vista. worked great for me.

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#9 BluRayHiDef
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If Vista really is the source of your problem, then I recommend that you get Windows 7. It runs much more efficiently than Vista.

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#10 zekere
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we had Supcom working on two vista machines fine, but u might need the Core Maximizer if u want the best performance. win7 didnt seen to need the core maximizer however. also tmake sure ur running in Admin mode to. otherwise ur one of the few people who seems to know HOW to use a PC and is STILL having issues with vista. worked great for me.

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I tried with core maximizer and without . didn't solve my issues .

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#11 Daytona_178
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I never had any problems with Vista...I actually quite liked it.

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#12 Captain__Tripps
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[QUOTE="kungfool69"]

we had Supcom working on two vista machines fine, but u might need the Core Maximizer if u want the best performance. win7 didnt seen to need the core maximizer however. also tmake sure ur running in Admin mode to. otherwise ur one of the few people who seems to know HOW to use a PC and is STILL having issues with vista. worked great for me.

zekere

I tried with core maximizer and without . didn't solve my issues .

I wouldn't expect it to, from what you have posted most likely you have a hardware problem. Probably some part of your laptop is overheating during games...
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#13 KLONE360
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[QUOTE="zekere"]

Okay, it seems like it is time to buy a new computer then ... I hate you Microsoft . You make PC gaming a living hell to make your profits .

Captain__Tripps
How is it MS fault that you probably have faulty hardware? Bluescreens and crashes are usually hardware related. Games stress your computer more than apps. Maybe you are over heating. Have you checked that?

Have you used vista or are you a fanboy. That OS is just garbage. Even XP was better. And even ME.
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#14 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="zekere"]

Okay, it seems like it is time to buy a new computer then ... I hate you Microsoft . You make PC gaming a living hell to make your profits .

KLONE360
How is it MS fault that you probably have faulty hardware? Bluescreens and crashes are usually hardware related. Games stress your computer more than apps. Maybe you are over heating. Have you checked that?

Have you used vista or are you a fanboy. That OS is just garbage. Even XP was better. And even ME.

Correction, Vista WAS garbage,,,with all of the patches and fixes its pretty much as good as Windows 7, just uses a bit more RAM.
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#15 Captain__Tripps
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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="zekere"]

Okay, it seems like it is time to buy a new computer then ... I hate you Microsoft . You make PC gaming a living hell to make your profits .

KLONE360
How is it MS fault that you probably have faulty hardware? Bluescreens and crashes are usually hardware related. Games stress your computer more than apps. Maybe you are over heating. Have you checked that?

Have you used vista or are you a fanboy. That OS is just garbage. Even XP was better. And even ME.

Yes i've used Vista, used it from about 2 months after it launched... Its not that much different than Windows 7. I'm only on Windows 7 because I got a free copy. (legit)
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#16 abuabed
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Who doesn't?
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#17 jun_aka_pekto
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We have Vista Home Premium on my Toshiba laptop and Vista Home Basic which was on my wife's older PC. Both tended to be just slightly on the sluggish side. I had to resort to turning off some of the graphics effects to make both versions of Vista run at an acceptable speed. Beyond that, we had no serious issues with Vista. Personally, I liked the taskbar of Vista better.

The only way I'd pick XP over Vista is if I'm stuck with old or slow hardware. With modern fast hardware, I prefer Vista over XP anytime.

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#18 Daytona_178
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Who doesn't?abuabed
People who are willing to give it a fair chance, that's who!
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#19 Sparticus247
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[QUOTE="abuabed"]Who doesn't?Daytona_178
People who are willing to give it a fair chance, that's who!

Sriously....I mean Vista 32 really wasn't even bad at all. Vista 64 is the one that had pretty much all the issues, and that was because it was

1) A new OS, always problem for the first 6 months there

2) It used a 64bit environment. This was not anywhere near supported as well as people wanted it to be, but that was not MSs fault, it was the software and hardware developers not supporting the rising 64bit architecture. Did you ever try XP64? It was a nightmare :o. And people thought Vista had issues.

Windows 7 is pretty much the current patched Vista that uses less RAM, I mean heck, it even uses the same driver base!

Hoestly MS pulled the biggest fast one is history on consumers. Windows 7 is Vista repackaged with a few new goodies, as well as using a bit less ram. Now people love it.....

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#20 abuabed
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^ That's the problem, M$ rips people off with a piece of crap OS and then releases another one with different name and charges people for it, I have used x64 long before Win7 and I had no issues (Mac OS X & Ubuntu). M$ is just a huge pile of garbage when it comes to quality products, I mean, could M$ have spent some time on Win 7 and not release Win Vista? They could have done that but they didn't why? because they can rip people off easily with a new buggy OS and get on with it. A little look at the back could give you a hint: Win 2000: Failure. Win XP: Success. (Both use same Kernel) Win Vista: Failure. Win 7: Success. (Both use same Kernel) A huge company like M$ could afford to develop a quality product but they just don't want to get less profit, by releasing two releases which both use the same Kernel they gain almost double the profit and the people don't complain or in fact some don't even know.
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#21 KLONE360
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Win200 was hardly a failure. That was ME. Win2000 is the stablest windows yet! Windows fisher price aint the holy grail you may think it is.
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#22 zekere
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You know, I actually believe that my GPU could be causing the problem, but however, I have troubles playing Starcraft, and that game ISN'T that demanding graphically . Also I find my problems regarding no sound in sup com or crashing of HOMM5 around forums . the solutions are always regarding drivers, patches and more . however, none of those helpful hints actually works (everyone does his best of course, and all help is always welcome and thanked for) . My notebook costed me $1200 . It is a very good machine !

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You know, I actually believe that my GPU could be causing the problem, but however, I have troubles playing Starcraft, and that game ISN'T that demanding graphically . Also I find my problems regarding no sound in sup com or crashing of HOMM5 around forums . the solutions are always regarding drivers, patches and more . however, none of those helpful hints actually works (everyone does his best of course, and all help is always welcome and thanked for) . My notebook costed me $1200 . It is a very good machine !

zekere

Since you bought a notebook, have you checked to see if there's an app or applet running in the background that may be affecting those games? Notebooks tend to be bundled with a lot of shovelware and they usually have a lot of memory-resident applets not normally found on a desktop PC. When I bought my Toshiba laptop (back in 2007) the first thing I did was uninstall all unnecessary apps and pruned down the number of memory resident applets/services running. Well, those and the update drivers/patches thing.

The video chip of my Toshiba was a Radeon X1200 which was just short of total crap (performance-wise) when it came to recent 3D-accelerated games. But, 2D games like Red Alert 2 and Starcraft and older 3D games like IL2 Forgotten Battles ran great. And that was on Vista.

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#24 Roggirek
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I never had any problems with Vista...I actually quite liked it.

Daytona_178

I agree, except for the UAC in certain situations.

EDIT: But 7 has that too yes? And yeah, I know you can disable it.

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#25 Elann2008
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Vista was fine for me. I'm actually having more problems with Win 7.
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#26 Sparticus247
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You know, I actually believe that my GPU could be causing the problem, but however, I have troubles playing Starcraft, and that game ISN'T that demanding graphically . Also I find my problems regarding no sound in sup com or crashing of HOMM5 around forums . the solutions are always regarding drivers, patches and more . however, none of those helpful hints actually works (everyone does his best of course, and all help is always welcome and thanked for) . My notebook costed me $1200 . It is a very good machine !

zekere

Everyone has issues with that game on Vista and 7. Well most people anyway. IS it a graphical bug that makes things look really off color? If so then this worked for me. Make a batch file with these lines.

taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
C:\"Program Files (x86)StarCraft"\"StarCraft.exe"
start explorer.exe

There has been issues with Windows Explorer and Star Craft running at the same time. This will shut it down as the game runs and start it back up when you quit the game. If you installed it into a different location then just fix the path. DOn't worry it won't harm your pc either. Been doing this work around since I got vVista back when it launched.

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#27 DigitalExile
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Tbh sounds like hardware. The only issue I had with games and Vista was Bioshock which I can't play with sound (although that was pre-updates and I didn't like it enough to try it again after updates). Starcraft and every other game work as good as they're going to.

You mentioned you play on a laptop? That pretty much right there sounds like the problem. They have no airflow, they heat up very easily - hell they heat up with normal use - so it's possible you damaged some hardware and it's now unstable.

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#28 Captain__Tripps
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You can get sound by running it in compatibility mode, windows 7 has the same problem, or enable the recording stereo mix fixed it too...
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#29 babarooni
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check and see if you have a bios update available for your system. that may help. i remember on my old desktop i had the same kind of problem (back then i was running xp). it would blue screen or crash or radomly restart on a lot of the games i played or half way through a game. it pissed me the hell off. one day i decided to switch out the RAM for faster and better RAM that was a different brand and voila the problem was gone.

now here's the kicker...i randomly checked for a bios update and it turns out the bios version i had was a version or two below the most recent one. i checked the revision history on what all it fixes, and it fixed a problem with a specific memory module, and guess what? i just so happened to have that very same brand and type of RAM (right down to the model number/serial number or whatever). i was shocked! i did the bios update, stuck the old RAM in for the hell of it and again no more issues.

having said all that, if you don't have a bios update available or are running the most recent version, it's definitely got to do with video card drivers. try upgrading to a more recent version, or possibly even downgrading to a previous version. newer isn't always better when it comes to video drivers.

hope this helps you out man. i know how frustrating it is when all you want to do is play a game in peace and enjoy it but you have bs like vista or something or the other messing up your thing. i guess this is why people like 'us' end up getting a console and play games on them. weird how the world works sometimes.

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#30 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="zekere"]

Okay, it seems like it is time to buy a new computer then ... I hate you Microsoft . You make PC gaming a living hell to make your profits .

Neo_revolution7

vista wasn't all that bad just had some bugs, windows 7 is phenominal tho :)

strangly enough vista runs better on my comp lol

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#31 brownwhale
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Win200 was hardly a failure. That was ME. Win2000 is the stablest windows yet! Windows fisher price aint the holy grail you may think it is.KLONE360
exactly, but I think he meant in the eyes of the uninformed public.