i need help deciding supcom or cnc 3

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#1 GranTurismo123
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i really need help on which game to buy, i have the demo for supcom and it seems to run pretty good but the skirmish map is prety small and doesnt really give u a taste of a really large scale battle my specs are a geforce 7900gs,intel e6400 dual processor, and 2 gb of ram. I think i couild run cnc3 on full graphics with a decent playing speed. But im not sure what to buy, any help?

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do you have COH....personally I like COH better then supcom or C&C3....but between supcom and C&C3...I like supcom better.
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#3 Colonel_Cool
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Since you have a good computer with a dual-core proc, I would say Supcom. It's sp is ok but not anything special, but skirmish and mp are awesome. (By the way, the demo level is 5x5 km, while other maps are 10x10, 20x20, 40x40, and 81x81.) It also has much more strategic depth than cnc3. But, if you are more of a sp person, then cnc3 would probably be the better choice.
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If I had a choice I would go with CoH but since you dont' have that then I will go with Supreme Commander
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#5 GranTurismo123
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hmmmmmmmm thats 2 people, for COH but its not really my type of game, im more scifi i used to play all the CNC games but i really like supcom, but i just dont want to buy it and then on the large scale maps, be unplayable.
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hmmmmmmmm thats 2 people, for COH but its not really my type of game, im more scifi i used to play all the CNC games but i really like supcom, but i just dont want to buy it and then on the large scale maps, be unplayable.GranTurismo123

 

at least try the COH demo...I promised myself that I would never play another World War 2 game again....and then well yeah COH came out. 

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#7 BounceDK
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Meh, I like SupCom better than CoH and especially C&C 3.
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#8 Colonel_Cool
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Supcom is unplayable on even a quad core if you do 8 players on an 81x81 km map, but you really should be fine with your specs in a normal game.
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Supcom is unplayable on even a quad core if you do 8 players on an 81x81 km map, but you really should be fine with your specs.Colonel_Cool

 

That's only if it's 8 AI players and who's really going to do that?

 

Anyway supcom destroys CNC3 in every way possible. Plus once the SDK releases I guarantee you will begin to see a slew of qulaity mods.  

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hmmmmmmmm thats 2 people, for COH but its not really my type of game, im more scifi i used to play all the CNC games but i really like supcom, but i just dont want to buy it and then on the large scale maps, be unplayable.GranTurismo123

 If you have played all the previous C&C games, you should get the C&C 3; this coming from a C&C and sci-fi fan.

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#11 Bjun41
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They are very close. I tried to write some difference but I'm afraid I ended up continuously erasing them.

I think it comes down to how you want to play the strategy game. Do you want to play as if you have the control of your ENTIRE army (SupCom) or do you want to play with the feeling of "hey there are other wars going around but I'm kind of focused on this one right now"?? BIG SCALE or little consecutive style??

 

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#12 General_Gustaf
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I like SupCom, great MP. Campaign is a bit long winded, takes me ages :)

And yeah, me and my friend tried 8+us players on an 81k map. Wasn't too bad at the start, but what you really need for it is RAM. It guzzles it like a pig, so that's where i've gone wrong. 2 more gig please....

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CnC3 is good but Supreme Commander is trash.CnC3

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#14 kris2456
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In my opinion you should get supcom.

I tried C&C:3 and was not impressed by the total lack of strategy involved. If you are worried about your specs, i really wouldnt.

I run supcom on medium settings on this:

Athlon64 3200 (single core)
2GB Ram
7800GT

and it runs fine (bar really late game 2v2's where there is loads of units). With that dual core you will be dandy trust me.

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i really need help on which game to buy, i have the demo for supcom and it seems to run pretty good but the skirmish map is prety small and doesnt really give u a taste of a really large scale battle my specs are a geforce 7900gs,intel e6400 dual processor, and 2 gb of ram. I think i couild run cnc3 on full graphics with a decent playing speed. But im not sure what to buy, any help?

GranTurismo123

SupComs' gameplay is lame - i don't recommend on it at all - get yourself C&C 3 - much better gameplay, story and everything

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SupCom is good if you like long tactical battles and have a high end PC. TW is good if you want faster more action oriented battles and have a decent mid range PC.
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#17 Georgemen
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Both are equally good. It's just that Cnc 3 can be considered kinda old-style, a bit of more of the same. Supreme Commander on the other hand is more innovative with the "why add a redundant minimap to the bottom left of the screen when with a simple roll of your mouse you can turn the main map into a minimap?" addition. Conclusion? If you have played the other Cnc games to death and you STILL want more, then go for Cnc3. If, on the other hand, you want something at the very least different try Supreme Commander. Be warned however that you need to get used to the whole "lots and lots of units" idea. Just for example,  the final part  of JUST the first mission  can demand from you to create about 100 units! Not to mention the automatic unit-building button.
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[QUOTE="GranTurismo123"]

i really need help on which game to buy, i have the demo for supcom and it seems to run pretty good but the skirmish map is prety small and doesnt really give u a taste of a really large scale battle my specs are a geforce 7900gs,intel e6400 dual processor, and 2 gb of ram. I think i couild run cnc3 on full graphics with a decent playing speed. But im not sure what to buy, any help?

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SupComs' gameplay is lame - i don't recommend on it at all - get yourself C&C 3 - much better gameplay, story and everything

 

Maybe it's because you didn't know how to play? I agree CNC3 has a better story, but other than that supcom is better hands down. Unlike CNC3 in supcom you can't simply tank spam your way to victory, which is what CNC3's MP almost always boils down to.  

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[QUOTE="PredatorRules"][QUOTE="GranTurismo123"]

i really need help on which game to buy, i have the demo for supcom and it seems to run pretty good but the skirmish map is prety small and doesnt really give u a taste of a really large scale battle my specs are a geforce 7900gs,intel e6400 dual processor, and 2 gb of ram. I think i couild run cnc3 on full graphics with a decent playing speed. But im not sure what to buy, any help?

onemic

SupComs' gameplay is lame - i don't recommend on it at all - get yourself C&C 3 - much better gameplay, story and everything

 

Maybe it's because you didn't know how to play? I agree CNC3 has a better story, but other than that supcom is better hands down. Unlike CNC3 in supcom you can't simply tank spam your way to victory, which is what CNC3's MP almost always boils down to.  

sure.....genius gameplay......hmm let me think if i could spend 1 whole day to create a gameplay for a RTS game, how would it be? hmm....I know!!! it will be SupComs' gameplay!!!!!

seriously a 9 year old could imagine same gameplay - you almost don't even think of a tactic - you just send the units that are good against other units- brilliant!

yes in C&C you can win the whole level with few units - at least you need to think on how to do that

SupComs' gameplay sucks - nothing to add - it's just a lame game with shinny graphics

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#20 General_Gustaf
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I agree with the comment above. C&C is more of a spam, when in SupCom you can't really do that, as weak units get owned quickly by upgraded tech, and powerful units are long to build.

 And Iranian_guy, please, post something more constructive next time, rather than "Omgz SupCom is trash". 

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#21 mimic-Denmark
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if you want entertainment then cnc 3 is the right choice.
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#22 mentrial
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Well, C&C and SC are vastly different games.

The value on C&C is in its frenetic and fun gameplay and in the action and pretty graphics and some powerful reminiscence.

The value on SC is in its almost chess-like gameplay (though not slow really), in the strategy, the big scale and the innovation.

 

I would say, If you are a halo player, go for C&C. If you are a Civ player, go for Supcom.

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In my opinion I would get Supcom because the battles themselves are just massive.  Plus CnC3 is just like any other RTS out there.  Just different units and better graphics then the older ones.  Once you get going in SupCom it just sucks you in and you really get into it.
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#24 onemic
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[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="PredatorRules"][QUOTE="GranTurismo123"]

i really need help on which game to buy, i have the demo for supcom and it seems to run pretty good but the skirmish map is prety small and doesnt really give u a taste of a really large scale battle my specs are a geforce 7900gs,intel e6400 dual processor, and 2 gb of ram. I think i couild run cnc3 on full graphics with a decent playing speed. But im not sure what to buy, any help?

PredatorRules

SupComs' gameplay is lame - i don't recommend on it at all - get yourself C&C 3 - much better gameplay, story and everything

 

Maybe it's because you didn't know how to play? I agree CNC3 has a better story, but other than that supcom is better hands down. Unlike CNC3 in supcom you can't simply tank spam your way to victory, which is what CNC3's MP almost always boils down to.

sure.....genius gameplay......hmm let me think if i could spend 1 whole day to create a gameplay for a RTS game, how would it be? hmm....I know!!! it will be SupComs' gameplay!!!!!

seriously a 9 year old could imagine same gameplay - you almost don't even think of a tactic - you just send the units that are good against other units- brilliant!

yes in C&C you can win the whole level with few units - at least you need to think on how to do that

SupComs' gameplay sucks - nothing to add - it's just a lame game with shinny graphics

 

Clearly you've never played supcom or just pretty much sucked at it. I dare you to go do what you just stated in an MP match, hell just try doing it with the AI and you'll get owned every time. Placing structures in the right locations as well as thinking about what unit combinations are right to defeat your enemy is what supcom is.  To even be able to defeat an enemies forward base you'll need to decide on exactly where you should place your units to attack. Going in face forward will see your units decimated within a few good seconds. 

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[QUOTE="PredatorRules"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="PredatorRules"][QUOTE="GranTurismo123"]

i really need help on which game to buy, i have the demo for supcom and it seems to run pretty good but the skirmish map is prety small and doesnt really give u a taste of a really large scale battle my specs are a geforce 7900gs,intel e6400 dual processor, and 2 gb of ram. I think i couild run cnc3 on full graphics with a decent playing speed. But im not sure what to buy, any help?

onemic

SupComs' gameplay is lame - i don't recommend on it at all - get yourself C&C 3 - much better gameplay, story and everything

 

Maybe it's because you didn't know how to play? I agree CNC3 has a better story, but other than that supcom is better hands down. Unlike CNC3 in supcom you can't simply tank spam your way to victory, which is what CNC3's MP almost always boils down to.

sure.....genius gameplay......hmm let me think if i could spend 1 whole day to create a gameplay for a RTS game, how would it be? hmm....I know!!! it will be SupComs' gameplay!!!!!

seriously a 9 year old could imagine same gameplay - you almost don't even think of a tactic - you just send the units that are good against other units- brilliant!

yes in C&C you can win the whole level with few units - at least you need to think on how to do that

SupComs' gameplay sucks - nothing to add - it's just a lame game with shinny graphics

 

Clearly you've never played supcom or just pretty much sucked at it. I dare you to go do what you just stated in an MP match, hell just try doing it with the AI and you'll get owned every time. Placing structures in the right locations as well as thinking about what unit combinations are right to defeat your enemy is what supcom is.  To even be able to defeat an enemies forward base you'll need to decide on exactly where you should place your units to attack. Going in face forward will see your units decimated within a few good seconds. 

A) i've played the demo and thank god i did that before getting the full game

B) if you call "combinating" units and where to place structures tactic - it's not much of tactic to thing about - c'mon

C) the game isn't fun and cool as C&C 3 - units in SupCom are just boring, in matter fact the whole gameplay as i said is just boring

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#26 onemic
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You clearly don't get my post. I bet you couldn't even beat the demo since you keep saying all you do is combine units and attack. Like I said before you will get mauled if you do that. I'm guessing supcom was too hard for you so you went to CNC3 where any gamer can play since all you do is literally upgrade your structures as much as possible in order to tank spam.
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You clearly don't get my post. I bet you couldn't even beat the demo since you keep saying all you do is combine units and attack. Like I said before you will get mauled if you do that. I'm guessing supcom was too hard for you so you went to CNC3 where any gamer can play since all you do is literally upgrade your structures as much as possible in order to tank spam. onemic

hmm i've beated the demo - only 1 but only 1 thing was cool i have to admit that - upgrading the hero and send him to battle with his new features - that's the coolest and the most fun thing that i've seen in SupCom

by the way i saw same game without the story and without the shinny graphics few years ago - it was a project of a 1 gamer or couple of gamers - i swear i saw same gameplay in RTS before and it had ugly graphics - maybe the company stole the same game added shinny graphics and a story and waulla - new game all rights preserved for the company

lol i'm just kidding about last part (or it maybe true, who knows......)

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If you're a beginner C+C3 if not Super Command.
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#29 onemic
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you're talking about total annihilation. One of the best RTS games of all time. supcom is the spiritual sequel, since its made by the same devs who made total annihilation.

 

Seeing how you even dared to diss that game, it's pretty clear that you must not play many RTS games that actually have depth to them. 

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Get C&C3
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you're talking about total annihilation. One of the best RTS games of all time. supcom is the spiritual sequel, since its made by the same devs who made total annihilation.

 

Seeing how you even dared to diss that game, it's pretty clear that you must not play many RTS games that actually have depth to them. 

onemic

i don't give a sh*t - SupCom has lame gameplay and it's boring

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By the way, the demo sucks compared to the full game, and the campaign on SupCom can be tedious. However, Skirmish and MP are what make the game amazing.

Predator, please. We know you must be some sort of dumb, hunk of meat who loves huge mash'em'ups without any plot, just gore and fighting. Most mature people are deeper than that, so please, try posting thins that don't involve swearing and the word 'beated'. It makes my brain Haemorrage (Bleed to you)

 Onemic, i agree, TA was one of the best RTS's, truly the father of a lot of modern ones. 

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By the way, the demo sucks compared to the full game, and the campaign on SupCom can be tedious. However, Skirmish and MP are what make the game amazing.

Predator, please. We know you must be some sort of dumb, hunk of meat who loves huge mash'em'ups without any plot, just gore and fighting. Most mature people are deeper than that, so please, try posting thins that don't involve swearing and the word 'beated'. It makes my brain Haemorrage (Bleed to you)

Onemic, i agree, TA was one of the best RTS's, truly the father of a lot of modern ones.

General_Gustaf

 

Well now I think it's clear that predator loves shallow RTS games. Saying total annihilation sucks has already proven that. The funny thing is, is that predator can't even explain why supcom sucks. All he says is that it's boring. Meaning he probably just flat out sucked at playing the game. 

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#34 General_Gustaf
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[QUOTE="General_Gustaf"]

By the way, the demo sucks compared to the full game, and the campaign on SupCom can be tedious. However, Skirmish and MP are what make the game amazing.

Predator, please. We know you must be some sort of dumb, hunk of meat who loves huge mash'em'ups without any plot, just gore and fighting. Most mature people are deeper than that, so please, try posting thins that don't involve swearing and the word 'beated'. It makes my brain Haemorrage (Bleed to you)

Onemic, i agree, TA was one of the best RTS's, truly the father of a lot of modern ones.

onemic

 

Well now I think it's clear that predator loves shallow RTS games. Saying total annihilation sucks has already proven that. The funny thing is, is that predator can't even explain why supcom sucks. All he says is that it's boring. Meaning he probably just flat out sucked at playing the game.

Heh, true. I see plenty of that around here, All 'oh, it sucks, its rubbish, its trash' then no backing up the facts. Meh, who cares.

I'm not particularly good at SupCom, but you can't beat the feeling of taking your PC round a friends, and playing 3 of us vs 3 AI. Such fun, and so funny when you get spammed by experimental units :D

I need to sort out my tactics :) I'm more of a techher than a spammer. My friend seems to have the right idea. He half techs, then spams, then eventually techs fully.

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#35 SirWrinkles
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Isn't it funny how the supcom fans can speak in an intelligent manner when discussing this, but the CnC fans need to resort to saying, "THAT GAME BLOWS THE SUXORZ RETARDED!"  I really think that syas something about the CnC community, I sold my copy of CnC 3 a while ago because the games online problems are ridiculous, but while I had it I noticed the vast majority of the online community for the game as a whole seemed to be rather unintelligent and immature, obviously not everyone, but that was the general vibe the CnC community gave me.

 As for my answer Supcom by far :) and supcom has a HUGE patch coming out next week that is said to have perfectly balanced the game and optimized it a great deal.

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[QUOTE="Colonel_Cool"]Supcom is unplayable on even a quad core if you do 8 players on an 81x81 km map, but you really should be fine with your specs.onemic

ur @SS cnc 3 destroyz supcom supcomz singleplayer sux my @SS cnc3 is much better

That's only if it's 8 AI players and who's really going to do that?

 

Anyway supcom destroys CNC3 in every way possible. Plus once the SDK releases I guarantee you will begin to see a slew of qulaity mods.  

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ok maybe i've exaggerated about saying SupCom is boring - well after i'm reathought about it it's gameplay is ok (IMO) but C&C 3 has better gameplay which is great gameplay (again IMO)

i've gave SupCom score of 8 - it's the max i could and i gave it the max

i've gave C&C 3 score of 10 simply coz there isn't anything bad about it & it has everything good in it

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#38 Iranian_Guy
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supcom doesn't worth it  it is so unrealistic and looks like those japanese old cartoons.its first problem is that you can barely see the map with its big and useless interface and second problem is it's poorly detailed world.the terrain is more similar to those flight simulators of 10 years ago not a 2007 RTS.third have you ever watched that main robot building a base?how can you people say it has good graphics?But I agree that this is one of the few games that gives you enough time to build your army.But CnC3 is kind of perfect and you will enjoy watching it's battles.

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EA or not EA? Not a hard choice really. Supreme Commander is exellent.
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supcom doesn't worth it it is so unrealistic and looks like those japanese old cartoons.its first problem is that you can barely see the map with its big and useless interface and second problem is it's poorly detailed world.the terrain is more similar to those flight simulators of 10 years ago not a 2007 RTS.third have you ever watched that main robot building a base?how can you people say it has good graphics?But I agree that this is one of the few games that gives you enough time to build your army.But CnC3 is kind of perfect and you will enjoy watching it's battles.

sorry about typing mistakes

Iranian_Guy

 

lmao. Get yourself a new pc or learn how to tweak graphics. 

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#41 Iranian_Guy
Member since 2006 • 278 Posts

Look If someone is criticizing graphics of a game he is talking about it's maximum setting.

What do you mean by 'this is sparta"?are you trying to annoy ME?

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#42 Jinroh_basic
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mate, take it easy....300 is pretty popular among gamespotters. it's just a sig.....

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#43 Iranian_Guy
Member since 2006 • 278 Posts
Ok but if I wrote something like that racist gamespot would suspend my account.some savage people who claim that they are civilized will never learn to respect others.
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#44 Jinroh_basic
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ok ok....just take it easy there. trust me, lighten up and things would be better around here.

as for the topic.....both games provide downloadable demo. if you can't decide even after playing those, then i doubt you would get a definite answer here. as you can see, both games have their loyal fans and would more than likely misguide you with their heated debate.

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#45 PikaPichu
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I'm coming from Warcraft III and Starcraft and have been wondering the same thing. CnC games are alright, but I don't like how EA seems to drop support for their games so early. I liked Total Annihilation so I guess my money would be on SupCom. What I don't like about it are it's insane system requirements. It sucks knowing that I can't really max things out on my e6600/2GB RAM/7800GT rig. :(
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#46 DaRockWilder
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Get Supreme Commander. :D
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#47 Lonelynight
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Supcom for tactics CnC for rushing.