I Need Recommendations/Advice on Building my First Rig

Oh, and I forget to mention that I was going to use one of the computers at my house to build and replace its parts w/better ones, but my parents somehow fear that I will damage the PC in the process. Should I be worried and try to find another old (but not too old) computer to practice my building skills with instead?

What's your budget. Generally it's better to build from the ground up. The only thing you can really recycle from and older prebuild computer would be the dvd drive and maybe harddrive but I can be mistaken :P

indeed i play my games all on high - very high i spent maybe 750 total a year ago..

Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolSerial-No_3404

and need for speed: the run

system requirements will make you squel like piggy (gpu and ram wise)

to basiclaly sum it up.. you are hairs better than the recommended in terms of gpu O.o

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolionusX

and need for speed: the run

system requirements will make you squel like piggy (gpu and ram wise)

to basiclaly sum it up.. you are hairs better than the recommended in terms of gpu O.o

Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolSerial-No_3404

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolmitu123

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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolSerial-No_3404

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="mitu123"] The BF3 beta uses nearly all my VRAM on both gpus...

Mawy_Golomb

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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolSerial-No_3404

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"][QUOTE="mitu123"] The BF3 beta uses nearly all my VRAM on both gpus...

mitu123

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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"] Do you have 1GB videocards? If you SLI it doesn't add the VRAM together. So having 2 cards with 1GB of VRAM still gives you 1GB of VRAM instead of 2.Serial-No_3404

More than 1/1.2GB VRAM is only really necessary if you're gaming on larger than 1080P resolutions. The reason BF3 is eating VRAM like it's going out of style is because it's currently got serious memory leak problems.

More than 1/1.2GB VRAM is only really necessary if you're gaming on larger than 1080P resolutions. The reason BF3 is eating VRAM like it's going out of style is because it's currently got serious memory leak problems.

will952

New question regarding getting a gaming rig: If I get the parts that were recommended on the last page, plus Window 7, will I still be able to run games like Crysis 1, GTA IV, Oblivion, or other older titles pretty well? Or is Vista the only way to play them? Also, is Vista able to play most (if not all) of the games that will be coming out in late 2011 and 2012?Mawy_Golomb

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolmitu123

yep and this is where my 6950 will begin to shine bwahaha

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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]Yea my only real regret is not getting a 2GB 560ti. I can SLI the 560ti that I have for a performance boost but the 1GB for VRAM will still limit me...hopefully not all games rack up the VRAM like BF3 does lolblaznwiipspman1

yep and this is where my 6950 will begin to shine bwahaha

Oh well, I'll give my bros the 460s and get new gpus for SLI/Crossfire.:D

New question regarding getting a gaming rig: If I get the parts that were recommended on the last page, plus Window 7, will I still be able to run games like Crysis 1, GTA IV, Oblivion, or other older titles pretty well? Or is Vista the only way to play them? Also, is Vista able to play most (if not all) of the games that will be coming out in late 2011 and 2012?Mawy_Golomb

Definitly buy windows 7, vista is god awful. Also, Newegg is a good place to buy parts online.

@sanny18 Please educate yourself more on computers before building one.

[QUOTE="will952"]

More than 1/1.2GB VRAM is only really necessary if you're gaming on larger than 1080P resolutions. The reason BF3 is eating VRAM like it's going out of style is because it's currently got serious memory leak problems.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="will952"]

More than 1/1.2GB VRAM is only really necessary if you're gaming on larger than 1080P resolutions. The reason BF3 is eating VRAM like it's going out of style is because it's currently got serious memory leak problems.

muscleserge

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Even medium used more than 1GB, lol.mitu123

Tried going over to the Tom's Hardware forums, but I haven't had much luck. If you simply take a look at the links below and calculate the total cost, it goes way above the $500-$800 budget that I'm shooting for.

MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (costs $109.99)

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (costs $64.99)

Antec EA750 EarthWatts 750 Watt EPS12V ATX Modular Power Supply (costs $98.99)

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM (costs $19.99)

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K (costs $219.99)

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K63 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (costs $119.99)

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 (costs $47.99)

Asus ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 Graphics Card - GeForce GTX 560 Ti 900 MHz Core 1 GB GDDR5 SDRAM PCI Express 2.0 4200 MHz Memory Clock 2560 x 1600 SLI HDMI DVI (costs $273.99)

If I did my calculations correctly, the total comes to (without taxes and shipping costs included) to $955.92. I guess that I'll have to stick with a gaming rig that's can run at medium settings for the time being, unless you guys have a better idea.

Also, the thread that I posted about my expectations for building a gaming rig can be found below:

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you know .. you could drop the cost on the case by pick something like CM 690 II in sales or HAF 912 : pick the same psu or another sales and if you would like to sli / crossfire pay for an Asrock Extreme 3 or Extreme 4 according PCmark score it Beat MSI G43 Series it also overclock better from what i heard without doubt

1 Friend of mine with a P67 B3 Asrock Extreme4 reach core i5 2500K at 4.7Ghz you could also spend a little more for ram with MIR for 2x4GB at 1600mhz for 54.99$ or 49.99$USD : 1600mhz is the sweet spot in memory scale for P67 / Z68 as far a test did but it up to you it still good

Also You should Really Try to Find a GTX 570 in sales you can get them at around 290$USD would be a better deal don't you think so ? even if you was to heavily overclock GTX 560 TI it would still fall far behind a GTX 570 from anybrand just saying

here one with the price range i mentioned not a Overclocker model but better then the card you getting
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127552

and you should max pretty much all game if you oc core i5 2500k + GTX 570 the only game that you couldn't then you buy a second card by next year problem solved :P

so far overclocking core i5 2500k REVEAL optimal in the newest title you could do that with a 30-50$ cooler that you can buy later when you feel ur ready to perform the overclockr

e-edit : get this power supply Corsair TX750 Version 2.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
Same price but it can endure Hotbox test and max load of exactly 900W = Good Quality it could be rated as a 900W but not 80+ Bronze Ready so it could handle SLI GTX 570 OC Without worry at all

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-TX750-V2-Power-Supply-Review/1227/8

Looks like someone finally posted in that thread, with his/her own recommendations to fit within an $800 budget. If any one of you could give me a second opinion, I'd appreciate it even more.

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Tried going over to the Tom's Hardware forums, but I haven't had much luck. If you simply take a look at the links below and calculate the total cost, it goes way above the $500-$800 budget that I'm shooting for.

MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (costs $109.99)

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (costs $64.99)

Antec EA750 EarthWatts 750 Watt EPS12V ATX Modular Power Supply (costs $98.99)

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM (costs $19.99)

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K (costs $219.99)

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K63 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (costs $119.99)

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 (costs $47.99)

4977780-item-ASUS-ENGTX560_Ti_DCII_TOP_2DI_1GD5--610839366705-+Asus+ENGTX560+TI.aspx?sgd=330d316d308d315d315" title="http://www.antarespro.com/4977780-item-ASUS-ENGTX560_Ti_DCII_TOP_2DI_1GD5--610839366705-+Asus+ENGTX560+TI.aspx?sgd=330d316d308d315d315">Asus ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 Graphics Card - GeForce GTX 560 Ti 900 MHz Core 1 GB GDDR5 SDRAM PCI Express 2.0 4200 MHz Memory Clock 2560 x 1600 SLI HDMI DVI (costs $273.99)

If I did my calculations correctly, the total comes to (without taxes and shipping costs included) to $955.92. I guess that I'll have to stick with a gaming rig that's can run at medium settings for the time being, unless you guys have a better idea.

Also, the thread that I posted about my expectations for building a gaming rig can be found below:

324391-31-need-advice-gaming-budget" title="http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/324391-31-need-advice-gaming-budget"> Link

Mawy_Golomb

[QUOTE="Mawy_Golomb"]

Tried going over to the Tom's Hardware forums, but I haven't had much luck. If you simply take a look at the links below and calculate the total cost, it goes way above the $500-$800 budget that I'm shooting for.

MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (costs $109.99)

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (costs $64.99)

Antec EA750 EarthWatts 750 Watt EPS12V ATX Modular Power Supply (costs $98.99)

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM (costs $19.99)

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K (costs $219.99)

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K63 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (costs $119.99)

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 (costs $47.99)

4977780-item-ASUS-ENGTX560_Ti_DCII_TOP_2DI_1GD5--610839366705-+Asus+ENGTX560+TI.aspx?sgd=330d316d308d315d315" title="http://www.antarespro.com/4977780-item-ASUS-ENGTX560_Ti_DCII_TOP_2DI_1GD5--610839366705-+Asus+ENGTX560+TI.aspx?sgd=330d316d308d315d315">Asus ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 Graphics Card - GeForce GTX 560 Ti 900 MHz Core 1 GB GDDR5 SDRAM PCI Express 2.0 4200 MHz Memory Clock 2560 x 1600 SLI HDMI DVI (costs $273.99)

If I did my calculations correctly, the total comes to (without taxes and shipping costs included) to $955.92. I guess that I'll have to stick with a gaming rig that's can run at medium settings for the time being, unless you guys have a better idea.

Also, the thread that I posted about my expectations for building a gaming rig can be found below:

324391-31-need-advice-gaming-budget" title="http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/324391-31-need-advice-gaming-budget"> Link

Serial-No_3404

Just as I have already stated, the parts above would cost me close to $1k, so I guess there aren't any rebates available as readily as before. Therefore, I'll probably be better off with either build from one of the links below (unless you can find me a better deal that is nearly the same price).

$800 gaming rig

Battlefield 3 Ultra Settings Rig (roughly $100 more than the $800 build) (though I don't want to go over my budget, so this one might be out of the question for me)

Do you also plan on SLI-ing your set up in the future?Serial-No_3404

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]Do you also plan on SLI-ing your set up in the future?Mawy_Golomb

mobo $109.99 after rebate

haf 922 $89.99

ram $39.99 after rebate

i5 2500k $219.99

750w PSU $69.99 after rebate

HDD $64.99

dvd drive $19.99

560ti DCUII $229.99 after rebate

total: $844.92

In my opinion you don't need an aftermarket cooler immediately. You can get that when you start overclocking. You can drop the price by getting 4GB of RAM instead of 8 and/or going with the AMD Phenom II x4 black edition with a respective motherboard. I personally would add the 50 bucks to the budget as it's worth it. Feel free to critique this build to lower the price and get better parts. I just threw it together.

it seem the GD43 Can actually support sli tough if ir emember a benchmark it can't do it well but i think ur alright on the setup : i just don't remember any 100$ mobo doing sli in the past i guess they finally dropped price :)