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#1 19James89
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I have never built my own pc before, but I would like to get into pc gaming, but I am stuck as to what parts I should select for my gaming PC.

Is 16gb of RAM enough? Is the AMD FX 8350 a good CPU and is the Nvidia Geforce GTX 770 good enough? I basically want a system that will last me for a few years and will enable me to play modern day games and future games over the next few years in max settings.

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What is your budget? that will determine what you can get.

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#3  Edited By 19James89
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@04dcarraher: £900/$1476 is my overall budget.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

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@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

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#6  Edited By 04dcarraher
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James do you need a monitor , keyboard,mouse, speakers and OS? Are you basically starting from scratch?

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@04dcarraher said:

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

The powersupply is actually pretty nice.

The 750W version of the CX series is the only one that's based on the TX series (The CX750w is basically a TX 750W re-badge)

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@560ti said:

@04dcarraher said:

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

The powersupply is actually pretty nice.

The 750W version of the CX series is the only one that's based on the TX series (The CX750w is basically a TX 750W re-badge)

false, the quality of the The CX series has capacitors of lower quality and other items inside, so the longevity of the PSUs may not be great, especially under heavy load and/or in hot conditions. The TX models are made with higher-quality capacitors and are tested at higher temperatures. The CX are fine for basic systems, but they are below the level of GS, TX, HX and AX.

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As mentioned we need to know if you need all the peripherals with that budget before we recommend anything.

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@04dcarraher said:

false, the quality of the The CX series has capacitors of lower quality and other items inside, so the longevity of the PSUs may not be great, especially under heavy load and/or in hot conditions. The TX models are made with higher-quality capacitors and are tested at higher temperatures. The CX are fine for basic systems, but they are below the level of GS, TX, HX and AX.

I never said the CX series was as a whole was of equal value.

I said that the 750w model of the CX series is the exception which is true

It is a CWT design built on the PUQ platform, it is a solid PSU, and is the same desgin as the TX series units.

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@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

Since when picking up Corsair is just Ok? what's wrong with 1TB Western Digital? bad price/performance? a 7990 compared to the 780ti for it's 1k $ is a bad price/performance.

I just wonder what are your terms of good PSU and HDD

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IS the R9 290 not an overinflated price in your country? Thats easily the best GPU price/performance on the market right now, it should be $399 US dollars. Mantle looks great, just announced it could be a up too a 45% improvement in BF4.

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IS the R9 290 not an overinflated price in your country? Thats easily the best GPU price/performance on the market right now, it should be $399 US dollars. Mantle looks great, just announced it could be a up too a 45% improvement in BF4.

BF4 is working like crap on any GPU basically so that game isn't a title to compare.

Right now getting the noisy and no so good fan is not an option, at least for me - you aim to play as quiet as possible and not turning jet fighter while gaming.

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@560ti said:

@04dcarraher said:

false, the quality of the The CX series has capacitors of lower quality and other items inside, so the longevity of the PSUs may not be great, especially under heavy load and/or in hot conditions. The TX models are made with higher-quality capacitors and are tested at higher temperatures. The CX are fine for basic systems, but they are below the level of GS, TX, HX and AX.

I never said the CX series was as a whole was of equal value.

I said that the 750w model of the CX series is the exception which is true

It is a CWT design built on the PUQ platform, it is a solid PSU, and is the same desgin as the TX series units.

You said "its a is basically a TX 750W re-badge" same design does mean same quality or ability using poorer quality parts, and only comes with a 3 year warranty vs TX which uses better quality parts and comes with 5 year warranty.

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@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

Since when picking up Corsair is just Ok? what's wrong with 1TB Western Digital? bad price/performance? a 7990 compared to the 780ti for it's 1k $ is a bad price/performance.

I just wonder what are your terms of good PSU and HDD

Corsair do not make their own psu's and their CX models are basic quality for average systems their not bad but their not great their in the middle of the pack for psu quality and design which is why I said "ok" series. As for the gpu the 780Ti has a poor performance to price ratio, for $700 you get a whole 15% average more performance then a GTX 780 for $500. $200 more for less then 20% difference = meh. WD blue are ok, their not the fastest nor the slowest and there are better options.

For psu just change the series to a GS or TX(preferred) , corsair quality from best to worst: AX - HX - TX - GS - CX - VS.

as for a HDD Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1tb has a higher read/write speeds then WD blues by as much as 50mb/s.

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@04dcarraher said:

@560ti said:

You said "its a is basically a TX 750W re-badge" same design does mean same quality or ability using poorer quality parts, and only comes with a 3 year warranty vs TX which uses better quality parts and comes with 5 year warranty.

Yeah re-badge was an example of reaching but a CWT design on a PUQ platform while using average to slightly above components is pretty good (I would of course get a TX or HX if money isn't tight but a CW 750w is still a good powersupply).

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@PredatorRules said:

@AdamPA1006 said:

IS the R9 290 not an overinflated price in your country? Thats easily the best GPU price/performance on the market right now, it should be $399 US dollars. Mantle looks great, just announced it could be a up too a 45% improvement in BF4.

BF4 is working like crap on any GPU basically so that game isn't a title to compare.

Right now getting the noisy and no so good fan is not an option, at least for me - you aim to play as quiet as possible and not turning jet fighter while gaming.

Except that it doesn't turn into a jet fighter in a game...

You choose the max fanspeed, it turns into a jet when fan speed goes to 75% (or around there, depending on your case and such). Stock the max fan speed is set to 55% and the max temp 95 Celsius (my case is about 3 feet away from my head and 55% does not stand out at all).

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#18  Edited By 19James89
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@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

It looks pretty sweet, thanks.

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@04dcarraher said:
@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

Since when picking up Corsair is just Ok? what's wrong with 1TB Western Digital? bad price/performance? a 7990 compared to the 780ti for it's 1k $ is a bad price/performance.

I just wonder what are your terms of good PSU and HDD

Corsair do not make their own psu's and their CX models are basic quality for average systems their not bad but their not great their in the middle of the pack for psu quality and design which is why I said "ok" series. As for the gpu the 780Ti has a poor performance to price ratio, for $700 you get a whole 15% average more performance then a GTX 780 for $500. $200 more for less then 20% difference = meh. WD blue are ok, their not the fastest nor the slowest and there are better options.

For psu just change the series to a GS or TX(preferred) , corsair quality from best to worst: AX - HX - TX - GS - CX - VS.

as for a HDD Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1tb has a higher read/write speeds then WD blues by as much as 50mb/s.

The only thing faster than the 1TB Blue Caviar which runs at 150Mb/s is the Veloci Raptor 10k.

A jump from single core GPU 780ti to dual core GPU 7990 which gives you the same boost of 20% for 300$ extra is a bad price/performance since you can always upgrade into two 780ti.

I've been using non certified Thermaltake 430Watt for over 3 years and it's still kicking so +80 bronze certified by Corsair is fine by me, I don't need no Silver/Gold/Platinium to pay double the amount for the same Watt capacity.

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#20  Edited By 19James89
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@04dcarraher said:

James do you need a monitor , keyboard,mouse, speakers and OS? Are you basically starting from scratch?

I have a separate budget for all of that. The £900/$1476 is just purely for the PC itself.

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

It looks pretty sweet, thanks.

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@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:
@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

Since when picking up Corsair is just Ok? what's wrong with 1TB Western Digital? bad price/performance? a 7990 compared to the 780ti for it's 1k $ is a bad price/performance.

I just wonder what are your terms of good PSU and HDD

Corsair do not make their own psu's and their CX models are basic quality for average systems their not bad but their not great their in the middle of the pack for psu quality and design which is why I said "ok" series. As for the gpu the 780Ti has a poor performance to price ratio, for $700 you get a whole 15% average more performance then a GTX 780 for $500. $200 more for less then 20% difference = meh. WD blue are ok, their not the fastest nor the slowest and there are better options.

For psu just change the series to a GS or TX(preferred) , corsair quality from best to worst: AX - HX - TX - GS - CX - VS.

as for a HDD Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1tb has a higher read/write speeds then WD blues by as much as 50mb/s.

The only thing faster than the 1TB Blue Caviar which runs at 150Mb/s is the Veloci Raptor 10k.

A jump from single core GPU 780ti to dual core GPU 7990 which gives you the same boost of 20% for 300$ extra is a bad price/performance since you can always upgrade into two 780ti.

I've been using non certified Thermaltake 430Watt for over 3 years and it's still kicking so +80 bronze certified by Corsair is fine by me, I don't need no Silver/Gold/Platinium to pay double the amount for the same Watt capacity.

False , you clearly have only a basic understanding. ever heard of WD Black series? Both the black series and the Seagate drive I linked can do upto 210 mb/s.

You still dont understand about the gpu eh? $200 more for less then 20% difference ie 780ti vs 780, why are you comparing a 7990 vs gtx 780ti? the dual gpu card use two slower gpu's to give crossfire performance on a single pci-e slot.

Yeah so? and you clearly have no regard to the fact that you get what you pay for and there is no need for silver or gold rated psu's. You can pick up better quality psu for roughly the same price as the psu you suggest.

Just with these changes you basically lose nothing but gain hundreds back

Seagate 1tb

GTX 780

650w gold rated psu fully modular

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@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:
@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

Since when picking up Corsair is just Ok? what's wrong with 1TB Western Digital? bad price/performance? a 7990 compared to the 780ti for it's 1k $ is a bad price/performance.

I just wonder what are your terms of good PSU and HDD

Corsair do not make their own psu's and their CX models are basic quality for average systems their not bad but their not great their in the middle of the pack for psu quality and design which is why I said "ok" series. As for the gpu the 780Ti has a poor performance to price ratio, for $700 you get a whole 15% average more performance then a GTX 780 for $500. $200 more for less then 20% difference = meh. WD blue are ok, their not the fastest nor the slowest and there are better options.

For psu just change the series to a GS or TX(preferred) , corsair quality from best to worst: AX - HX - TX - GS - CX - VS.

as for a HDD Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1tb has a higher read/write speeds then WD blues by as much as 50mb/s.

The only thing faster than the 1TB Blue Caviar which runs at 150Mb/s is the Veloci Raptor 10k.

A jump from single core GPU 780ti to dual core GPU 7990 which gives you the same boost of 20% for 300$ extra is a bad price/performance since you can always upgrade into two 780ti.

I've been using non certified Thermaltake 430Watt for over 3 years and it's still kicking so +80 bronze certified by Corsair is fine by me, I don't need no Silver/Gold/Platinium to pay double the amount for the same Watt capacity.

False , you clearly have only a basic understanding. ever heard of WD Black series? Both the black series and the Seagate drive I linked can do upto 210 mb/s.

You still dont understand about the gpu eh? $200 more for less then 20% difference ie 780ti vs 780, why are you comparing a 7990 vs gtx 780ti? the dual gpu card use two slower gpu's to give crossfire performance on a single pci-e slot.

Yeah so? and you clearly have no regard to the fact that you get what you pay for and there is no need for silver or gold rated psu's. You can pick up better quality psu for roughly the same price as the psu you suggest.

Show me one Black Caviar that runs at 210Mb/s.

http://www.wd.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1346&language=1 this?

or maybe http://www.wd.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=792&language=1 this?

God I hate when people talk like they know everything without any source of proof, all I see is 125 and 150 rates,

The one thing that you get out of Black vs. Blue is the extra years of warranty

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@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:
@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

Since when picking up Corsair is just Ok? what's wrong with 1TB Western Digital? bad price/performance? a 7990 compared to the 780ti for it's 1k $ is a bad price/performance.

I just wonder what are your terms of good PSU and HDD

Corsair do not make their own psu's and their CX models are basic quality for average systems their not bad but their not great their in the middle of the pack for psu quality and design which is why I said "ok" series. As for the gpu the 780Ti has a poor performance to price ratio, for $700 you get a whole 15% average more performance then a GTX 780 for $500. $200 more for less then 20% difference = meh. WD blue are ok, their not the fastest nor the slowest and there are better options.

For psu just change the series to a GS or TX(preferred) , corsair quality from best to worst: AX - HX - TX - GS - CX - VS.

as for a HDD Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1tb has a higher read/write speeds then WD blues by as much as 50mb/s.

The only thing faster than the 1TB Blue Caviar which runs at 150Mb/s is the Veloci Raptor 10k.

A jump from single core GPU 780ti to dual core GPU 7990 which gives you the same boost of 20% for 300$ extra is a bad price/performance since you can always upgrade into two 780ti.

I've been using non certified Thermaltake 430Watt for over 3 years and it's still kicking so +80 bronze certified by Corsair is fine by me, I don't need no Silver/Gold/Platinium to pay double the amount for the same Watt capacity.

False , you clearly have only a basic understanding. ever heard of WD Black series? Both the black series and the Seagate drive I linked can do upto 210 mb/s.

You still dont understand about the gpu eh? $200 more for less then 20% difference ie 780ti vs 780, why are you comparing a 7990 vs gtx 780ti? the dual gpu card use two slower gpu's to give crossfire performance on a single pci-e slot.

Yeah so? and you clearly have no regard to the fact that you get what you pay for and there is no need for silver or gold rated psu's. You can pick up better quality psu for roughly the same price as the psu you suggest.

Show me one Black Caviar that runs at 210Mb/s.

http://www.wd.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1346&language=1 this?

or maybe http://www.wd.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=792&language=1 this?

God I hate when people talk like they know everything without any source of proof, all I see is 125 and 150 rates,

The one thing that you get out of Black vs. Blue is the extra years of warranty

up to 210 is key word, burst speeds can get as high as 213mb/s on blacks and 209 mb/s with seagate's. while VR 10k 250mb/s max burst on blue 156mb/s. The other drives are abit quicker then the blues.

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@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:
@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xqZI

I've maxed out your budget limit, I hope you like it =)

Few problems, " ok" psu series, picked a bad price to performance gpu , no OS , "ok" hdd.

Since when picking up Corsair is just Ok? what's wrong with 1TB Western Digital? bad price/performance? a 7990 compared to the 780ti for it's 1k $ is a bad price/performance.

I just wonder what are your terms of good PSU and HDD

Corsair do not make their own psu's and their CX models are basic quality for average systems their not bad but their not great their in the middle of the pack for psu quality and design which is why I said "ok" series. As for the gpu the 780Ti has a poor performance to price ratio, for $700 you get a whole 15% average more performance then a GTX 780 for $500. $200 more for less then 20% difference = meh. WD blue are ok, their not the fastest nor the slowest and there are better options.

For psu just change the series to a GS or TX(preferred) , corsair quality from best to worst: AX - HX - TX - GS - CX - VS.

as for a HDD Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1tb has a higher read/write speeds then WD blues by as much as 50mb/s.

The only thing faster than the 1TB Blue Caviar which runs at 150Mb/s is the Veloci Raptor 10k.

A jump from single core GPU 780ti to dual core GPU 7990 which gives you the same boost of 20% for 300$ extra is a bad price/performance since you can always upgrade into two 780ti.

I've been using non certified Thermaltake 430Watt for over 3 years and it's still kicking so +80 bronze certified by Corsair is fine by me, I don't need no Silver/Gold/Platinium to pay double the amount for the same Watt capacity.

False , you clearly have only a basic understanding. ever heard of WD Black series? Both the black series and the Seagate drive I linked can do upto 210 mb/s.

You still dont understand about the gpu eh? $200 more for less then 20% difference ie 780ti vs 780, why are you comparing a 7990 vs gtx 780ti? the dual gpu card use two slower gpu's to give crossfire performance on a single pci-e slot.

Yeah so? and you clearly have no regard to the fact that you get what you pay for and there is no need for silver or gold rated psu's. You can pick up better quality psu for roughly the same price as the psu you suggest.

Show me one Black Caviar that runs at 210Mb/s.

http://www.wd.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1346&language=1 this?

or maybe http://www.wd.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=792&language=1 this?

God I hate when people talk like they know everything without any source of proof, all I see is 125 and 150 rates,

The one thing that you get out of Black vs. Blue is the extra years of warranty

up to 210 is key word, burst speeds can get as high as 213mb/s on blacks and 209 mb/s with seagate's. while VR 10k 250mb/s max burst on blue 156mb/s. The other drives are abit quicker then the blues.

In any how it's not worth the price since you only feel the difference when comparing to 500Mb/s SSDs

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Not worth the price? the Seagate drive I linked is cheaper in most places then the WD blue that you linked......

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Not worth the price? the Seagate drive I linked is cheaper in most places then the WD blue that you linked......

Actually the WD is cheaper by 1$ than the SG you've linked. (pcpartpicker.com)

There's nothing wrong with Seagate, my old HDD is one and still alive after 3 years, there's nothing special about them either.

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@04dcarraher said:

Not worth the price? the Seagate drive I linked is cheaper in most places then the WD blue that you linked......

Actually the WD is cheaper by 1$ than the SG you've linked. (pcpartpicker.com)

There's nothing wrong with Seagate, my old HDD is one and still alive after 3 years, there's nothing special about them either.

why save $1 when you can grab a faster drive. pointless.

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#28 GeryGo  Moderator
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@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

Not worth the price? the Seagate drive I linked is cheaper in most places then the WD blue that you linked......

Actually the WD is cheaper by 1$ than the SG you've linked. (pcpartpicker.com)

There's nothing wrong with Seagate, my old HDD is one and still alive after 3 years, there's nothing special about them either.

why save $1 when you can grab a faster drive. pointless.

IT'S NOT FASTER stop BS here without any facts.

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I have a 290X. I also have a nice pair of speakers, and headphones. I have never heard the fan on the card once while gaming.

Oh yeah, the aftermarket coolers are even better, if your still concerned. With the price point and performance of the 290, with the Mantle technology in games like Star Citizen, BF4, and Dragon age 3, I seriously dont see a reason to consider anything else.