i want to hook up my 5.1 avr to my asus motherboard with an optical cable?

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#1 gregdpw
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my question is what do i need to play my games in 5.1 through my avr and motherboard through the optical connection? also will this sound better than my anolog 5.1 through my xfi card? i guess using an optical connection will give me dolby digital. thanks guys!

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#2 ATLReppa770
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my question is what do i need to play my games in 5.1 through my avr and motherboard through the optical connection? also will this sound better than my anolog 5.1 through my xfi card? i guess using an optical connection will give me dolby digital. thanks guys!

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I never noticed any sound difference between using my onboard audio vs. a sound card (I tried out a top of the line one, back in the day). Maybe they've improved now? Anyway, what type of motherboard do you have?
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What if I get the z-5500 system and use the optical with that? I currently have the z-5300.
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The first thing to check is whether or not your sound card and/or motherboard will output 5.1 from the optical connection. I learned that the hard way. I had my PC connected to my receiver via optical but nothing I did would give me 5.1. After some googling it turned out my Creative sound card (extreme gamer) does not output 5.1 over optical.
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#5 C_Rule
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What if I get the z-5500 system and use the optical with that? I currently have the z-5300. gregdpw
I have those speakers, connected to my mobo via an optical cable, and they.... Kick. Ass. If you love a bit of bass heavy music, the sub will not disappoint.
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#6 gregdpw
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Will I get Dolby digital when I play my games with the z5500?
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Will I get Dolby digital when I play my games with the z5500?gregdpw
Yes. Even Logitech's latest set (z506) outputs 5.1. They're only $100.
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#8 gregdpw
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does anyone play their pc games in DD with the 5500?
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#9 C_Rule
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I'll see if it works alter. Never really paid any attention to whether or not games worked in DD. Movies do though, I know that much.
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#10 gregdpw
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Should I get a new creative sound card with an optical in? Or should I just stay with my current creative extremegamer card with anolog audio. Or if I get the z5500, should I just plug the optical right into my asus p6t motherboard? Thanks guys
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#11 C_Rule
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Just plug it into your mobo via optical.
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#12 gregdpw
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I shouldn't loose any sound quality right going into the mobo?
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#13 C_Rule
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I shouldn't loose any sound quality right going into the mobo?gregdpw
I dunno, plug it in and see what you think. No point in using a sound card just because the box says it will be better, if you can't hear the difference.
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[QUOTE="gregdpw"]I shouldn't loose any sound quality right going into the mobo?C_Rule
I dunno, plug it in and see what you think. No point in using a sound card just because the box says it will be better, if you can't hear the difference.

He won't 'loose any sound quality', if he plugs it directly into his mobo.
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If your motherboard did not come with Dolby Digital Live! or DTS Connect, you will not get any surround sound via optical/digital connection. Optical cannot pass through loseless 5.1, only compressed 5.1. DDL and DTS-C mix all audio into a DD/DTS signal and send it to the receiver. Creative sells licenses for DDL and DTS-C but I believe those work only for their sound cards with digital outputs.

That said, I prefer 3 or 4 RCA cables from the sound card to the receiver. With digital you lose all the bells and whistles the sound card has. Digital bypasses all of the good stuff and goes straight to the receiver for it to decode the signal instead of the sound card. If you have an optical connection and either of the encoding softwares, then it won't make the slightest difference if its onboard DD or sound card DD. Same for DTS. A

I will take a dedicated sound card over onboard anyday. The SQ is a huge difference when the analog jacks are used. Onboard has weak DACs and just very low quality in general compared to sound cards. Plus, analog with 3-4 RCA cables to the receiver provides uncompressed surround sound, which is better than the compressed signals imo.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

If your motherboard did not come with Dolby Digital Live! or DTS Connect, you will not get any surround sound via optical/digital connection. Optical cannot pass through loseless 5.1, only compressed 5.1. DDL and DTS-C mix all audio into a DD/DTS signal and send it to the receiver. Creative sells licenses for DDL and DTS-C but I believe those work only for their sound cards with digital outputs.

That said, I prefer 3 or 4 RCA cables from the sound card to the receiver. With digital you lose all the bells and whistles the sound card has. Digital bypasses all of the good stuff and goes straight to the receiver for it to decode the signal instead of the sound card. If you have an optical connection and either of the encoding softwares, then it won't make the slightest difference if its onboard DD or sound card DD. Same for DTS. A

I will take a dedicated sound card over onboard anyday. The SQ is a huge difference when the analog jacks are used. Onboard has weak DACs and just very low quality in general compared to sound cards. Plus, analog with 3-4 RCA cables to the receiver provides uncompressed surround sound, which is better than the compressed signals imo.

ChubbyGuy is right in regards to both the LPCM and the fact it's the receiver that will handle all the decoding. If your receiver has hdmi in and either hdmi out or dvi out I suggest using your sound card for your audio. If you have a somewhat new sound card you can use the sound card to process the audio and then output it through a dvi to hdmi adapter or straight hdmi if your GPU has a hdmi on it. All you would need to do is hook up the s/pdif on your motherboard to your gpu. Ideally, like Chubby mentioned is to use the sound card with RCA so you can take advantage of both the sound cards unique equalization features and lossless audio.
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#17 gregdpw
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I just got a sound blaster xfi titianium card. It has an optical. So when I get the z5500 speaker system I can plug into the card. And that why I don't have to buy a new avr and have it take up a lot of room in my computer room.
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#18 C_Rule
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I just got a sound blaster xfi titianium card. It has an optical. So when I get the z5500 speaker system I can plug into the card. And that why I don't have to buy a new avr and have it take up a lot of room in my computer room. gregdpw
I seriously think you should have just waited till you got your speakers and tried them out using the motherboard...
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#19 gregdpw
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Yeah I know. But I have been wanting the z5500 speakers for a while now. Right now I have the z5300 and my sub is about one inch away from my pc. It's been like that for three years now. Can I still place the z5500 subwoofer an inch away from my pc?
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#20 C_Rule
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Yeah I know. But I have been wanting the z5500 speakers for a while now. Right now I have the z5300 and my sub is about one inch away from my pc. It's been like that for three years now. Can I still place the z5500 subwoofer an inch away from my pc?gregdpw
I don't really think that would be safe.
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#21 ATLReppa770
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[QUOTE="gregdpw"]Yeah I know. But I have been wanting the z5500 speakers for a while now. Right now I have the z5300 and my sub is about one inch away from my pc. It's been like that for three years now. Can I still place the z5500 subwoofer an inch away from my pc?C_Rule
I don't really think that would be safe.

lmao .. I gave up on the guy already.

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#22 C_Rule
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Ye, I know. Just thought I should offer some advice given my experience with the speakers and using them via optical to a motherboard.
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#23 ChubbyGuy40
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I just got a sound blaster xfi titianium card. It has an optical. So when I get the z5500 speaker system I can plug into the card. And that why I don't have to buy a new avr and have it take up a lot of room in my computer room. gregdpw

I would've gotten an Auzentech X-Fi Forte or Bravura over a Creative card. I despise Creative's drivers. I find the Auzentech ones provide much less of a headache. But the difference would've only been noticeable if you used some quality headphones, in which case the Auzentech wipes the floor with Creative. Should've spent a little extra and got the new Titanium HD over the regular titanium/titanium fatal1ty.

As for the speakers, I would really suggest getting this Onkyo HTIB over the Logitech. It's a better deal by far.