i7 920 vs phenom II 955

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#1 basketcase14240
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The phenom runs at 3.2 Ghz while the i7 runs at 2.66 Ghz...so shouldnt the phenom technically be faster...and how does intels hyper threading technology compare to Phenoms HyperTransport mode?

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#2 joshuahaveron
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The i7's architecture makes it a lot more efficient than the phenom, meaning that even at the higher clock speed the i7 can outperform the phenom. The i7 offers more performance in applications than the phenom, because of the 8 threads, but in games where only two cores are used the performance is similar.

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#3 urdead18
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What he said^^

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#4 basketcase14240
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i dont understand how it has better "architecture" but is it worth the extra money then?

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#5 joshuahaveron
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What do you want it for? Do you want it for games or applications and does cost matter to you?

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#6 jevery57
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i dont understand how it has better "architecture" but is it worth the extra money then?

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You have to decide if it's worth it for your needs. Here's some articles that might help

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-versus-i7,2360.html

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3551&p=1

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i dont understand how it has better "architecture" but is it worth the extra money then?

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Basically, it's more efficient. It does it's job more effectively which results in better performance. The i7 and phenom offer similar performance in games, but the i7 offers better performance in applications. If you only mind about your gaming performance and don't want to spend more money, the phenom would be best. But if you care about your performance in applications and don't mind spending more money you should get the i7. I personally chose the 940, as I don't feel that the price is justified by the performance gain of the i7. Also the i9 is being release soon, so you could wait for that and it will probably reduce the i7 and phenom prices.

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#8 basketcase14240
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i9? when is that coming out..wait so if you were me you would choose the 955?

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#9 basketcase14240
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im trying to keep a budget of 1200 and i would like something thats both good in applications and for gaming

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Well, if I was you I would go for the 955, but you have a big budget so you could get the i7. However that money could be spent on a better graphics card or an upgrade for a graphics card in the future. TBH, the 955 is good enough in applications unless you do things like encoding videos, edit images, videos or models.

Basically, the money could be better spent in other areas, which would improve performance more such as the geaphics card.s

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#11 joshuahaveron
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Also, 1200 what? Which currency? :D

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#12 basketcase14240
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$ american mula

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as for the graphics card i am already getting a good enough gpu..the radeon hd 1890...i heard the i7 might be better for futureproofing

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047&Tpk=NZXT%20Tempest - CASE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.216527 - CPU/Motherboard/RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127429 - Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 - Power Supply

With taxes it's $1133.52. I picked the 850W PSU because it's enough to power 2 GTX 275's if he wants SLI in the future.

If you want ATI instead, you can get the 4890 for $194.99. The GTX 275 and 4890 are nearly identical in terms of performance, just the 275 has PhysX and CUDA.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047&Tpk=NZXT%20Tempest - CASE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.216527 - CPU/Motherboard/RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127429 - Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 - Power Supply

With taxes it's $1133.52. I picked the 850W PSU because it's enough to power 2 GTX 275's if he wants SLI in the future.

If you want ATI instead, you can get the 4890 for $194.99. The GTX 275 and 4890 are nearly identical in terms of performance, just the 275 has PhysX and CUDA.

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wow thanks, i didnt know about that combo thing..that will deff save me some money..and whats the physx and CUDA? anything worth getting over the ATI
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[QUOTE="urdead18"]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047&Tpk=NZXT%20Tempest - CASE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.216527 - CPU/Motherboard/RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127429 - Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 - Power Supply

With taxes it's $1133.52. I picked the 850W PSU because it's enough to power 2 GTX 275's if he wants SLI in the future.

If you want ATI instead, you can get the 4890 for $194.99. The GTX 275 and 4890 are nearly identical in terms of performance, just the 275 has PhysX and CUDA.

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wow thanks, i didnt know about that combo thing..that will deff save me some money..and whats the physx and CUDA? anything worth getting over the ATI

PhysX and CUDA are relatively minor and shouldn't be the deciding factor between the 2 cards but they are bonuses. PhysX is for games and helps with physics calculations by moving them from the CPU to the GPU, and CUDA I think is for Folding@home. Both the 4890 and 275 are great cards, but please don't get the HD 1890 or whatever, it's extremely bad.

The rig I put together is almost top of the line, especially if you were to add another GTX 275/4890 for SLI or Xfire.

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[QUOTE="basketcase14240"][QUOTE="urdead18"]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047&Tpk=NZXT%20Tempest - CASE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.216527 - CPU/Motherboard/RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127429 - Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 - Power Supply

With taxes it's $1133.52. I picked the 850W PSU because it's enough to power 2 GTX 275's if he wants SLI in the future.

If you want ATI instead, you can get the 4890 for $194.99. The GTX 275 and 4890 are nearly identical in terms of performance, just the 275 has PhysX and CUDA.

urdead18

wow thanks, i didnt know about that combo thing..that will deff save me some money..and whats the physx and CUDA? anything worth getting over the ATI

PhysX and CUDA are relatively minor and shouldn't be the deciding factor between the 2 cards but they are bonuses. PhysX is for games and helps with physics calculations by moving them from the CPU to the GPU, and CUDA I think is for Folding@home. Both the 4890 and 275 are great cards, but please don't get the HD 1890 or whatever, it's extremely bad.

The rig I put together is almost top of the line, especially if you were to add another GTX 275/4890 for SLI or Xfire.

I think he meant 4890. lol :D

Also physx and cuda don't really matter. Physx is used in hardly any games. Nvidia cards can also go 3D, if you liek that kind of thing. But you have to buy special glasses and monitor.

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#18 basketcase14240
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oh nvm then il just go with the ati..and haha yeah i meant 4890 also if im getting the i7 and not overclocking it..the stock fan will be fine right? haha this is my last question i swear

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#19 joshuahaveron
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oh nvm then il just go with the ati..and haha yeah i meant 4890 also if im getting the i7 and not overclocking it..the stock fan will be fine right? haha this is my last question i swear

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Yes, the stock fan will be fine.

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i7 is the fastest processor for games that uses 4 threads and beyond. Nothing can match it, except the 99.9% of games that uses up to 2 cores (which makes dualcore the perfect spot for gamers).
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#21 basketcase14240
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alright thanks