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#1 Davyvfr
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Does anyone see a price drop happening for the 980 extreme possibly in the next 2 years to around $500? I am willing to pay that much for a CPU. Or will they pull it from Newegg and then it will be $2,000 like the rest of the CPU's such as the i7 920 which is $320 (its a rip-off for that price). I found a used one for $849 but I've never brought a used PC part so I don't know how reliable it is.

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#2 C_Rule
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It may drop, when socket 2011 comes out. But there's really no point in getting 980X.
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#3 fishing666
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it won't drop..all the top of the line intel items are priced at 1k. even the old top of the line intel cpu are still selling at 1k
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#4 Davyvfr
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I know, and I'm probably an idiot for getting one since new i7 2600k is out. However, I'm not sure if a price drop will happen. I notice that when Newegg takes a CPU off their site, you can find it on Amazon but its like $400 more than what Newegg had it for. Example) The Intel Core 2 Extreme @ 3GHZ is $999.99 new and $849.95 used. Ok, so the older CPU is the exact same price as the newer i7 980 Extreme. So if you wait to long, then you will end up paying more. I don't know if buying used is a good idea. Since someone could have overclocked it which shortens the lifespan or one of the pins on the back of the CPU could be bent....Because Intel stops making it, the price skyrockets way up.

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#5 Davyvfr
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it won't drop..all the top of the line intel items are priced at 1k. even the old top of the line intel cpu are still selling at 1kfishing666
That sucks. I was really hoping to get one when the price drops but it looks like they don't. Unless i get used, then I can get it for around $849. The seller states its never been overclocked and in new condition.

Just wondering, if you overclock a 980 Extreme, does it reduces the lifespan? I was looking into overclocking it but at $1,000 its not just like I can go simply buy another one.

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#6 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="Davyvfr"][QUOTE="fishing666"]it won't drop..all the top of the line intel items are priced at 1k. even the old top of the line intel cpu are still selling at 1k

That sucks. I was really hoping to get one when the price drops but it looks like they don't. Unless i get used, then I can get it for around $849. The seller states its never been overclocked and in new condition.

Why do you want the 980X so much?
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#7 Davyvfr
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I guess i've just been persuaded by Youtube videos. I haven't seen any run Flight Simulator X on a i7 2600k CPU. Well, only 2 and they lagged.

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Flight Sim X? I'm on Intels first gen core 2 duo, and I can play that no problem....Intel's Extreme lineup is a massive waste of money

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#9 Davyvfr
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Flight Sim X? I'm on Intels first gen core 2 duo, and I can play that no problem....Intel's Extreme lineup is a massive waste of money

wis3boi
Can you run it maxed out with add-ons at 40+ Frames? Only the i7 980x can do that with maxed out traffic.
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#10 Neo_revolution7
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Flight Sim X? I'm on Intels first gen core 2 duo, and I can play that no problem....Intel's Extreme lineup is a massive waste of money

Davyvfr

Can you run it maxed out with add-ons at 40+ Frames? Only the i7 980x can do that with maxed out traffic.

honestly if your only geting it for Flight X then i say wait till socket 2011 comes out.

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#11 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Flight Sim X? I'm on Intels first gen core 2 duo, and I can play that no problem....Intel's Extreme lineup is a massive waste of money

Davyvfr
Can you run it maxed out with add-ons at 40+ Frames? Only the i7 980x can do that with maxed out traffic.

So you're wanting to spend 1k for 1 game? Spend 300$ for the 2600k and spend the rest on nice controllers!
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#12 Davyvfr
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[\QUOTE]So you're wanting to spend 1k for 1 game? Spend 300$ for the 2600k and spend the rest on nice controllers!

Yep, if it means good performance. I'm fed-up with my i5 750 @ 2.66GHZ. It can run it maxed with NO addons at 50 frames, but once you add a lot of extra add-ons, then it really gets slow.

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#13 Davyvfr
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I know I might be wasting money on the Asus Rampage Motherboard, the i7 980X and the Case but if its good quality, then I am willing to buy.

These are the parts I am thinking of getting:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131642

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001

And minus while throw in this. I'm a first time computer builder so I don't know if all these tools are necessary:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899261004

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#14 C_Rule
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Yep, if it means good performance. I'm fed-up with my i5 750 @ 2.66GHZ. It can run it maxed with NO addons at 50 frames, but once you add a lot of extra add-ons, then it really gets slow.

Davyvfr

Overclock it?

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#15 ionusX
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or get a core i7 970 and voerclock it,.. same dealio and SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper.. and still a 6 core

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115066&cm_re=core_i7-_-19-115-066-_-Product

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#16 blaznwiipspman1
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what is your video card? Maybe it can't handle the extra add ons you're talking about.

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#17 Neo_revolution7
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or get a core i7 970 and voerclock it,.. same dealio and SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper.. and still a 6 core

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115066&cm_re=core_i7-_-19-115-066-_-Product

ionusX

ok now....if your going to spend 900 on that proc he will minus well get the 980x xD

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If your building a new system you should just get a 2500k. If this is for gaming then it will give better performance, use less power, overclock further and be cheaper.

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#19 hofuldig
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OK well if it runs good on a stock game but when you add a bunch of add ons it slows down?

That sounds to me like either a RAM Problem or a Video card problem. Heck it could even be that your hard drive is loading so slowly that it just seems like your getting lagg.

May i ask how you "think" your CPU is the bottleneck? When your playing do you minitor usage of your CPU/GPU/Memory?

It seems like you are willing to waist ALOT of money before even checking what the real problem is.

What are your system specs? Mem/GPU/PSU

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#20 abuabed
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If your building a new system you should just get a 2500k. If this is for gaming then it will give better performance, use less power, overclock further and be cheaper.

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Daytona tells the truth.
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#21 C_Rule
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I know I might be wasting money on the Asus Rampage Motherboard, the i7 980X and the Case but if its good quality, then I am willing to buy.

These are the parts I am thinking of getting:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131642

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001

And minus while throw in this. I'm a first time computer builder so I don't know if all these tools are necessary:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899261004

Davyvfr

I dunno about that case, doesn't look to have great air flow.

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I don't even see a price drop for that sucker plus I would rather go amd cause their prices are lower.
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#23 Davyvfr
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OK well if it runs good on a stock game but when you add a bunch of add ons it slows down?

That sounds to me like either a RAM Problem or a Video card problem. Heck it could even be that your hard drive is loading so slowly that it just seems like your getting lagg.

May i ask how you "think" your CPU is the bottleneck? When your playing do you minitor usage of your CPU/GPU/Memory?

It seems like you are willing to waist ALOT of money before even checking what the real problem is.

What are your system specs? Mem/GPU/PSU

hofuldig

I have a 400W PSU, in which I am not sure of the brand name because I really never got around to seeing what kind it is. I remember someone saying to me on Gamespot that it must be an OK quality since it can power my rig. Essentially, this is not really my rig, my parents own it. I will be building a rig and buying it myself as it will serve as only one purpose, gaming and overclocking. The rig I have now cannot be overclocked even though it is one of the best overclocking CPU's. Since its not my rig, I don't want to take chances messing it up. And if I screw up my i7 980X, I will save up and buy another one. I have already tried overclocking and it didn't work. Even with overclocking programs ( I have an Intel Motherboard)

As far as performance wise in FSX, it preforms well with no add-ons. But when running with add-ons, its a different story. It could possibly be the hard drive since its not a solid state (its only a Hitachi 7,200RPM cheap HDD). I was told by Flight Simulator X users that a solid state will NOT increase performance but it will make game textures load quicker. Most FSX users stated I am becoming out-dated with my PC. I'm not sure if its true or not. That is why I am building a PC, to get more knowledgeableabout computers and it will be a lot easier to upgrade. I never really monitored my CPU. Is there a program that can do it? Task manager closes out when the program is opened. I also have 6gb @ 1,333MHZ (again, I'm not sure of the brand). The problem is that FSX likes to attack the first core (or Core 0 in FSX terms), and uses the other cores to run add-ons. Unfortunelty, FSX is very badly coded, and no one can really seem to figure out why it uses 100% of the first core, but only uses about 20% of the rest of the cores. I do know that my RAM is not all being used when running FSX. Only about 4GB is being used. Thanks for all who replied though. I didn't think this topic would really get so many views.

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#24 blaznwiipspman1
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ok these are the requirements you must meet to purchase a i7 980x

1) must make at least 100K in an year (not family income just yourself)

2)have no life

3)willing to pay money for performance equal to a much cheaper cpu (aka i7 2600K)

Thats about it, if you meet those requirements then go on ahead and get the i7 980x

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#25 Davyvfr
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ok these are the requirements you must meet to purchase a i7 980x

1) must make at least 100K in an year (not family income just yourself)

2)have no life

3)willing to pay money for performance equal to a much cheaper cpu (aka i7 2600K)

Thats about it, if you meet those requirements then go on ahead and get the i7 980x

blaznwiipspman1
Lol, good requirements. I have not seen any benchmarks with the i7 980X and the i7 2600K. I do not have a job, since I'm only 17 and grades are more important than working. Until I see a i7 980X and a i7 2600K go side by side, then I will make my decision. The thing is that the i7 980X supports up to 12 cores. The i7 2600K is only 8. Thats 4 extra cores that could make all the difference.
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#26 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

ok these are the requirements you must meet to purchase a i7 980x

1) must make at least 100K in an year (not family income just yourself)

2)have no life

3)willing to pay money for performance equal to a much cheaper cpu (aka i7 2600K)

Thats about it, if you meet those requirements then go on ahead and get the i7 980x

Davyvfr
Lol, good requirements. I have not seen any benchmarks with the i7 980X and the i7 2600K. I do not have a job, since I'm only 17 and grades are more important than working. Until I see a i7 980X and a i7 2600K go side by side, then I will make my decision. The thing is that the i7 980X supports up to 12 cores. The i7 2600K is only 8. Thats 4 extra cores that could make all the difference.

They are not cores, they are threads. Video games cant use threads, only cores.
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#27 Davyvfr
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[QUOTE="Davyvfr"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

ok these are the requirements you must meet to purchase a i7 980x

1) must make at least 100K in an year (not family income just yourself)

2)have no life

3)willing to pay money for performance equal to a much cheaper cpu (aka i7 2600K)

Thats about it, if you meet those requirements then go on ahead and get the i7 980x

Daytona_178
Lol, good requirements. I have not seen any benchmarks with the i7 980X and the i7 2600K. I do not have a job, since I'm only 17 and grades are more important than working. Until I see a i7 980X and a i7 2600K go side by side, then I will make my decision. The thing is that the i7 980X supports up to 12 cores. The i7 2600K is only 8. Thats 4 extra cores that could make all the difference.

They are not cores, they are threads. Video games cant use threads, only cores.

Oh, thats interesting. So, then an i7 980X would preform equal to an i7 2600k? Then what does take advantage of Hyper threading? Say, like Photoshop? Come to think of it, I remember a user from another forum stating that FSX does not take advantage of HT in any way.
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Mate get the 980x.. don't worry about the "wait till X comes out" you will get that every year : ) Knock yourself out, great chip, all the pros are buying them!
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#29 topgunmv
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Does anyone see a price drop happening for the 980 extreme possibly in the next 2 years to around $500? I am willing to pay that much for a CPU. Or will they pull it from Newegg and then it will be $2,000 like the rest of the CPU's such as the i7 920 which is $320 (its a rip-off for that price). I found a used one for $849 but I've never brought a used PC part so I don't know how reliable it is.

Davyvfr

They're charging 320$ for a 920? Geeze, I got my 950 for 299$.

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#30 Davyvfr
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[QUOTE="Davyvfr"]

Does anyone see a price drop happening for the 980 extreme possibly in the next 2 years to around $500? I am willing to pay that much for a CPU. Or will they pull it from Newegg and then it will be $2,000 like the rest of the CPU's such as the i7 920 which is $320 (its a rip-off for that price). I found a used one for $849 but I've never brought a used PC part so I don't know how reliable it is.

topgunmv

They're charging 320$ for a 920? Geeze, I got my 950 for 299$.

Yep, it is one the best overclocking CPU's of its day's. Anyone could overclock a 920.

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#31 deathxxshark
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Why buy a 980x now? If you can wait half a year, I say wait till Intel's new Ivy Bridge processors come out. These are the processors that will replace the current 900 series processors, and will undoubtedly be much much faster, much more energy efficient and cooler. (I heard they will be running on 28nm chips!!!!! If true, they'll be WAYYY more cool and energy efficient!! :O) But if you can't wait, then go ahead with the 980x; but I assure you when the Ivy Bridge processors come out, you will feel like you just wasted $1000 on old technology. Intel's 900 series processors are already almost 3 years old. Wait until Ivy Bridge, buy the new Intel Extreme Edition processor on the Ivy Bridge platform, and you will have the best for the next ~3 years.
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Mate get the 980x.. don't worry about the "wait till X comes out" you will get that every year : ) Knock yourself out, great chip, all the pros are buying them! Phantsy16
Must be the only guy voted for the 980x. :P
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#33 Davyvfr
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Well, I made my decision and I am going with the i7 2600k when it is released again. ( My decision is final) I've seen the benchmarks and confirmed that it out-beats an i7 980X in games. And it's more overclocker friendly. That way, if it doesn't last atleast 2 years being overclocked, I can buy another one. It will also save me money for a laptop that I will have to buy later on.

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#34 SgtSilock
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Well, I made my decision and I am going with the i7 2600k when it is released again. ( My decision is final) I've seen the benchmarks and confirmed that it out-beats an i7 980X in games. And it's more overclocker friendly. That way, if it doesn't last atleast 2 years being overclocked, I can buy another one. It will also save me money for a laptop that I will have to buy later on.

Davyvfr

Have fun using 4 cores when Crysis 2 and BF3 comes out, I know I will be with my 6 core 12mb cache beast, oh and then of course all the other 6 core optimized games come out this year and next year. Bad decision I say, future proof FTW : ) And 2600k beats games by a few FPS and it can't touch the 980x in any other benchmark but games (and ONLY just beats games)! Fact: 980x IS the better chip.

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[QUOTE="Davyvfr"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="Davyvfr"] Lol, good requirements. I have not seen any benchmarks with the i7 980X and the i7 2600K. I do not have a job, since I'm only 17 and grades are more important than working. Until I see a i7 980X and a i7 2600K go side by side, then I will make my decision. The thing is that the i7 980X supports up to 12 cores. The i7 2600K is only 8. Thats 4 extra cores that could make all the difference.

They are not cores, they are threads. Video games cant use threads, only cores.

Oh, thats interesting. So, then an i7 980X would preform equal to an i7 2600k? Then what does take advantage of Hyper threading? Say, like Photoshop? Come to think of it, I remember a user from another forum stating that FSX does not take advantage of HT in any way.

The 980x has 6 physical cores and the 2600k has 4 physical cores. The 2600k still does out perform the 980x in games. Threads can be used by programs like Windows, photoshop, movie and photo editiing programs.
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[QUOTE="Davyvfr"]

Well, I made my decision and I am going with the i7 2600k when it is released again. ( My decision is final) I've seen the benchmarks and confirmed that it out-beats an i7 980X in games. And it's more overclocker friendly. That way, if it doesn't last atleast 2 years being overclocked, I can buy another one. It will also save me money for a laptop that I will have to buy later on.

Phantsy16

Have fun using 4 cores when Crysis 2 and BF3 comes out, I know I will be with my 6 core 12mb cache beast, oh and then of course all the other 6 core optimized games come out this year and next year. Bad decision I say, future proof FTW : ) And 2600k beats games by a few FPS and it can't touch the 980x in any other benchmark but games (and ONLY just beats games)! Fact: 980x IS the better chip.

I couldnt agree more, watching benchmark scores go sky high beats gaming anyday. Nothing beats watching 3dmark bench, since playing Crysis is rather boring compare to the former.

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#37 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="Davyvfr"]

Well, I made my decision and I am going with the i7 2600k when it is released again. ( My decision is final) I've seen the benchmarks and confirmed that it out-beats an i7 980X in games. And it's more overclocker friendly. That way, if it doesn't last atleast 2 years being overclocked, I can buy another one. It will also save me money for a laptop that I will have to buy later on.

Phantsy16

Have fun using 4 cores when Crysis 2 and BF3 comes out, I know I will be with my 6 core 12mb cache beast, oh and then of course all the other 6 core optimized games come out this year and next year. Bad decision I say, future proof FTW : ) And 2600k beats games by a few FPS and it can't touch the 980x in any other benchmark but games (and ONLY just beats games)! Fact: 980x IS the better chip.

Wow, someone's butthurt cause his fail advice wasn't taken.

You know who's going to be having fun? OP, with his quad core that can potentially hit 5GHz+ with some good air cooling, and how much will this CPU cost? Quarter the price of your "beast".


I think we all know who made the poor decision.

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#38 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Davyvfr"]

Well, I made my decision and I am going with the i7 2600k when it is released again. ( My decision is final) I've seen the benchmarks and confirmed that it out-beats an i7 980X in games. And it's more overclocker friendly. That way, if it doesn't last atleast 2 years being overclocked, I can buy another one. It will also save me money for a laptop that I will have to buy later on.

Phantsy16

Have fun using 4 cores when Crysis 2 and BF3 comes out, I know I will be with my 6 core 12mb cache beast, oh and then of course all the other 6 core optimized games come out this year and next year. Bad decision I say, future proof FTW : ) And 2600k beats games by a few FPS and it can't touch the 980x in any other benchmark but games (and ONLY just beats games)! Fact: 980x IS the better chip.

Wow, feeling bitter much?
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#39 sammysalsa
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OK well if it runs good on a stock game but when you add a bunch of add ons it slows down?

That sounds to me like either a RAM Problem or a Video card problem. Heck it could even be that your hard drive is loading so slowly that it just seems like your getting lagg.

May i ask how you "think" your CPU is the bottleneck? When your playing do you minitor usage of your CPU/GPU/Memory?

It seems like you are willing to waist ALOT of money before even checking what the real problem is.

What are your system specs? Mem/GPU/PSU

Davyvfr

I have a 400W PSU, in which I am not sure of the brand name because I really never got around to seeing what kind it is. I remember someone saying to me on Gamespot that it must be an OK quality since it can power my rig. Essentially, this is not really my rig, my parents own it. I will be building a rig and buying it myself as it will serve as only one purpose, gaming and overclocking. The rig I have now cannot be overclocked even though it is one of the best overclocking CPU's. Since its not my rig, I don't want to take chances messing it up. And if I screw up my i7 980X, I will save up and buy another one. I have already tried overclocking and it didn't work. Even with overclocking programs ( I have an Intel Motherboard)

As far as performance wise in FSX, it preforms well with no add-ons. But when running with add-ons, its a different story. It could possibly be the hard drive since its not a solid state (its only a Hitachi 7,200RPM cheap HDD). I was told by Flight Simulator X users that a solid state will NOT increase performance but it will make game textures load quicker. Most FSX users stated I am becoming out-dated with my PC. I'm not sure if its true or not. That is why I am building a PC, to get more knowledgeableabout computers and it will be a lot easier to upgrade. I never really monitored my CPU. Is there a program that can do it? Task manager closes out when the program is opened. I also have 6gb @ 1,333MHZ (again, I'm not sure of the brand). The problem is that FSX likes to attack the first core (or Core 0 in FSX terms), and uses the other cores to run add-ons. Unfortunelty, FSX is very badly coded, and no one can really seem to figure out why it uses 100% of the first core, but only uses about 20% of the rest of the cores. I do know that my RAM is not all being used when running FSX. Only about 4GB is being used. Thanks for all who replied though. I didn't think this topic would really get so many views.


And what is your GPU? Just get a $40 cpu cooler for the i5 and the 1155 like everyone else suggest, such waste.

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#40 markop2003
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It will drop a bit but it will disappear way before it gets down to resonable prices.