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I would never buy a prebuilt. Usually they're around $700 and they don't even have a graphics card or decent PSU. I'd build your own if I were you.

I would never buy a prebuilt. Usually they're around $700 and they don't even have a graphics card or decent PSU. I'd build your own if I were you.

Steameffekt

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I would never buy a prebuilt. Usually they're around $700 and they don't even have a graphics card or decent PSU. I'd build your own if I were you.

Wolfetan

There's no point to that build if you're getting the default items. The GPU is a waste of space and money if plan on doing any kind of gaming on your computer.

You need to upgrade the GPU to something halfway decent like the GTX 560Ti or HD 6950. At bare minimum for a GPU, the HD 6850 or GTX 460 1GB.

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]

I would never buy a prebuilt. Usually they're around $700 and they don't even have a graphics card or decent PSU. I'd build your own if I were you.

Wolfetan

You can get a decent prebuilt computer from some manufacturers, others such as Gateway, HP, Acer etc I'd stay away from because they really do use the lowest quality motherboards and power supplies and rarely give you a quality graphics card which is essential if you want to play games at anything but the lowest resolutions and lowest settings. They also fill your computer with a bunch of unwanted software that will bog down your system. Everyone here but me is going to tell you to build your own although if you do have some knowledge building your own is usually (not always) the best and cheapest way. I personally bought a prebuilt from a computer store around my home (in Toronto) that I have had no issues at all with and it didn't come loaded with a bunch of crap software and junk parts. I also got a 1 year warranty on everything.

After paying for shipping and an operating system there is no way I could have built the system for cheaper than what I paid. I got a decent cooler master mid tower, Windows 7 64 bit OS, an AMD PhenomX4 840 at 3.2ghz CPU, Saphire 1GB ddr5 6670 GPU (included a free copy of Dirt3), 4GB (2x2) of kingston DDR3 ram, 1 terabyte Seagate 7200rpm hard drive, a Biostar mother board with 6gb sata and USB 3 ports (i know Biostar is not a top end board maker but on newegg this board is actually rated quite high with over 70 user ratings. The power supply is the only thing that is sorta low end, it's a 420 watt budget brand so if I ever wanted to get a better video card or do any type of real overclocking I'd have to swap it out for a better brand with better specs but for my system it has been rock solid so far even with a mild overclock on my video card. It also came with a card reader, a set of nice Atec Lansing speakers and a decent Microsoft keyboard and mouse. With taxes it ran me $675 which I could not have done for the same price from any site or store on my own.

If you do go prebuilt just make sure you get a good GPU, the card I got in my machine (amd 1GB 6670 with ddr5) is about as low as you can go and still expect to be able to play most games at decent settings unless you game at lower resolutions. I'd personally say don't get anything less than an AMD 5770/6770 or an nVidia GTX460 as I notice on some games I really wish I had a GPU with a little more power but overall I'm pleased.

Check the parts you pick against their rating and comments on Newegg, that should give you a good idea if you are getting crap or value for your money.

Then what would be the best PC i could build for like 650 - 700$?

I'm not going to link all the parts because I'm lazy but assuming you already have a monitor, speakers, mouse and keyboard I'll do my best.

Case- Cooler Master/Antec/NZXT/Rosewill mid tower-$50-60

AMD Motherboard- Asus/Asrock/Gigabyte/Biostar $80-90 (Intel CPU's are better but the gains are not as big as some will pretend)

CPU- AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2 GHZ $125 (easily overclocks to about 80-85% of high end intels which is more than enough)

Hard Drive- 500 GB Kingston/Samsung/Seagate 7200rpm $80-90 (prices have went up drastically lately)

RAM- 8GB (4GBX2) DDR3 1367/1600 MHZ Kingston/Crucial/G Skill/Mushkin/Patriot $40-50 (4GB is usually plenty but RAM is cheap now)

GPU- AMD 6850 1GB $140 (best value vs performance and they don't require that much power or amperage)

PSU- 450-500 Watt Antec/Corsair/Cooler Master/Rosewill with 20+ amps on the 12+ volt rail 60$-70 (low amps are dangerous with better GPU's)

Operating System- Windows 7 64bit $90-100 (you gotta get 64 bit because 32 bit has limits on how much RAM is actually recognized)

Assuming you pay the max price I listed you are looking at $725 (before shipping and taxes) for a system that can play the majority of games with mid to high setting at 1080p at 40-75 FPS (depending on the game). If you could come up with another $200-300 dollars you can build a system that will basically max every game out there (with a couple exceptions) at 1080p and solid frame rates that rarely will drop below 30 FPS (generally considered the minimum you want to game at on a PC)

Then what would be the best PC i could build for like 650 - 700$?

Wolfetan

For around $600 you could get a 6870/560 & PH2 build (which is what I have). Definitely a 560ti with $700.

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Then what would be the best PC i could build for like 650 - 700$?

Socijalisticka

For around $600 you could get a 6870/560 & PH2 build (which is what I have). Definitely a 560ti with $700.

Not unless he already has an opertaing system a case and a few other things which by only going on his original post he does not have already. He could maybe pull of a 6870 if he found some amazing deals all at once but there is now way he is building a system with a 560 as the center piece of it without surrounding it with pure crap parts, it can't be done. A 560 is at the absolute minimum a $210 card and that's for one that has universal poor ratings or almost no ratings at all. If you want a trusted quality 560 you are looikng at around $240, add in all the other components he will need to be around $700 give or take a few bucks and it can't be done considering he now has to spend at least another 20-30 bucks on a reliable PSU for that card. A 560 needs a PSU with higher amperage and at least another 40-50 watts when compared to a 6850. Thats not to say it wouldn't be money well spent, the 560 is atleast a 20-25% more powerful card in most games compared to the 6850 but when you factor in the price over a 6850 and the better PSU needed I can't see anyway he can get that build for what you have suggested without totally skimping in other areas.

i have a monitor, m+kb, and speakers. So all I need is a case and a operating system.

Not unless he already has an opertaing system a case and a few other things which by only going on his original post he does not have already. He could maybe pull of a 6870 if he found some amazing deals all at once but there is now way he is building a system with a 560 as the center piece of it without surrounding it with pure crap parts, it can't be done. A 560 is at the absolute minimum a $210 card and that's for one that has universal poor ratings or almost no ratings at all. If you want a trusted quality 560 you are looikng at around $240, add in all the other components he will need to be around $700 give or take a few bucks and it can't be done considering he now has to spend at least another 20-30 bucks on a reliable PSU for that card. A 560 needs a PSU with higher amperage and at least another 40-50 watts when compared to a 6850. Thats not to say it wouldn't be money well spent, the 560 is atleast a 20-25% more powerful card in most games compared to the 6850 but when you factor in the price over a 6850 and the better PSU needed I can't see anyway he can get that build for what you have suggested without totally skimping in other areas.

TellDaddy

Well there is a very obvious solution with the W7, what that is I won't say. And do you speak of the 560 or 560ti? A 560 is between 170-190, within the price range of a 6870. Both are feasible options. You really exaggerate on the PSU, a 550w Antec is just $10 more. But no doubt if OP chooses to buy W7, then the 6850 is the best option, in order not to skimp out on anything that is.

So can somebody like put together a build with like links and stuff, with the best stuff. lol thanks!

Something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953

I bought my current computer from Ibuypower. If you are not going to build your own, than places like Ibuypower are your best bet. Ive been satisfied after two years.

Something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953

Socijalisticka

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Something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953

Wolfetan

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[QUOTE="Socijalisticka"]

Something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953

MonsieurX

Windows 7MonsieurX

If I get thishttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313 would that work? Or will the mobo not be able to hold 3 rams? And i was reading on Newegg and it says they cant gurantee that the combo thing works. So do you know if the parts will work together? the combo thing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953

If I get thishttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313 would that work? Or will the mobo not be able to hold 3 rams? And i was reading on Newegg and it says they cant gurantee that the combo thing works. So do you know if the parts will work together? the combo thing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953

Wolfetan

The MB in that combo can support up to 32GB of RAM should it ever be needed. However, you don't want to stick a singal stick in with a dual stick setup, it will cause all your RAM to run as single sticks. Dual channel RAM operates better then a single stick of RAM.

You'd want to find the same RAM and buy it if you wish to run 8GB of RAM on your computer. This way there is no difference in the RAM and less likely to cause any possible problems.

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If I get thishttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313 would that work? Or will the mobo not be able to hold 3 rams? And i was reading on Newegg and it says they cant gurantee that the combo thing works. So do you know if the parts will work together? the combo thing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953

neatfeatguy

The MB in that combo can support up to 32GB of RAM should it ever be needed. However, you don't want to stick a singal stick in with a dual stick setup, it will cause all your RAM to run as single sticks. Dual channel RAM operates better then a single stick of RAM.

You'd want to find the same RAM and buy it if you wish to run 8GB of RAM on your computer. This way there is no difference in the RAM and less likely to cause any possible problems.

I need a disc drive. I looked on newegg for them but none of them got very good reviews. Anybody recommend any? And is there anything else i need other than this http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.770953 and a disc drive?

www.tinyurl.com/falconguide use this

So what disc drive should I get?

So what disc drive should I get?

Wolfetan

If you're not worried about noise, just get the cheapest one that has a SATA interface and has the features you want.

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So what disc drive should I get?

GS550L

If you're not worried about noise, just get the cheapest one that has a SATA interface and has the features you want.