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#1 LHOO
Member since 2006 • 170 Posts
Blizzard is on fire, lol read this news IGE sued by Blizzard

A little background: IGE is consider as the biggest RMT company around the world.

Quote: Blizzard show the power against the in-game gold farming again, just after they sued Peon4hire couple days ago, they put IGE in the court this week. It seems they begin to take very serious action towards the gold farming. I might be a bit disappoint about this move, though personally hate the in-game spam but purchse gold from farmer will save me a load of time.
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#2 thanatose
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LOL, that's too funny, it was just a matter of time. I'd like to see what the outcome of this case is.
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#3 LHOO
Member since 2006 • 170 Posts

..oops sorry guys I just misread the article, IGE was sued by a individual ppl.

 

It's a personal behavior.

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#4 thanatose
Member since 2003 • 2465 Posts
Oh, bummer, too bad Blizzard isn't doing something about it themselves.
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#5 zero9167
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yeah would be very cool if blizzard started sueing them :)
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#6 BenTheJamin
Member since 2005 • 927 Posts
finally someone is doing something, im so sick and tired of getting spammed over and over again about pwr lvling and crap. Now if only blizzard would take action against some of these guys.
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#7 thanatose
Member since 2003 • 2465 Posts
I agree, that's part of the reason I don't play WoW much anymore. I've heard about a plugin for WoW that automaticaly blocks those messages but I can't remember what it's called.
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#8 QuattroRS6
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It's not as bad now but you can get a mod from www.curse-gaming.com called Spammenot works great.

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#9 capthavic
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Those groups ruin the whole point of the game and just annoy the crap out of everyone.
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#10 BounceDK
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They can't win. No company has the right to consider virtual gold & silver their property. No sir.
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#11 Sleepyz
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All Blizzard as to do is instant bans for mentioning power leveling or selling gold in general chat or email. Eventually they'd give up because they wouldn't make a profit from creating so many new accounts.

For me it was alot more satisfying buying that 5000gold flying mount myself. I set a goal and i reached it.

 

 

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#12 LHOO
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All Blizzard as to do is instant bans for mentioning power leveling or selling gold in general chat or email. Eventually they'd give up because they wouldn't make a profit from creating so many new accounts.

For me it was alot more satisfying buying that 5000gold flying mount myself. I set a goal and i reached it.

 

 

Sleepyz

Completely agree with you dude, they might work a solution to "cooperate" with virtual seller not just instant ban. It will kill the industry, I mean the casual player, 1~2hours/day, will leave the game forever.

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#13 sircyrus
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All Blizzard as to do is instant bans for mentioning power leveling or selling gold in general chat or email. Eventually they'd give up because they wouldn't make a profit from creating so many new accounts.Sleepyz
They don't need to ban the accounts. They need to ban the credit cards used by the accounts. That's how they would effectively stop this problem, but they don't want to do that because they make cash everytime someone makes a new account.

They also need to either permanently ban users who use these services, or reset their account to it's creation (all level 1 toons but retain the character names). As it stands right now, someone can purchase the use of a powerleveling service and if Blizzard finds out they'll get suspended for a week. That's not a deterance.

Until Blizzard gets serious about dealing with this problem it will continue to remain.

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#14 ElronofDarktide
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No matter what the problem will continue to remain. The more you crack down on gold selling the higher you will drive the price. If you limit the supply it just becomes more profitable to provide the service.

 

Look at drug dealers. Don't you think people are serious about trying to stop them?

 

It's just an asinine endeavour anyway. You can't FORCE people to spend hours farming gold when someone else has the gold , they want it, they have money and it would be mutually beneficial to exchange. TECHNICALLY Blizzard might "own" the gold and 'have the right" yadda yadda yadda, but on an individual basis I just sold my WoW account. WTF are they going to do about it? Why would they want to do anything about it? 

 

MMO accounts should be things that people play while they want to play it and then sell when they are finished if they want.  It's really nice to make some cash back for having spent all that time accomplishing tasks in the game. I don't see why Blizzard would want to limit this behavior, since the players wind up making cash off the game that seems like a pretty good bonus incentive for playing. 

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#15 BewilderedRonin
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They can't win. No company has the right to consider virtual gold & silver their property. No sir.BounceDK

Yes, they do. It is transfer of in-game materials provided by their coding, on their servers, in their game. That "gold"doesn't even exist unless it uses Blizzard's code, servers, and game client to exist. Ergo, that gold is Blizzard's property.

 

Still, Blizzard isn't suing Peons4Hire over selling gold, they're suing them over spamming.

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#16 eds2004
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IGE may no longer be the biggest or the baddest, check out this MMO virtual goods vendor comparison and review site - http://www.spymmo.com - there are SOO many vendors and many of them are more highly regarded than IGE, and there are a ton of games too!

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[QUOTE="Sleepyz"]All Blizzard as to do is instant bans for mentioning power leveling or selling gold in general chat or email. Eventually they'd give up because they wouldn't make a profit from creating so many new accounts.sircyrus

They don't need to ban the accounts. They need to ban the credit cards used by the accounts. That's how they would effectively stop this problem, but they don't want to do that because they make cash everytime someone makes a new account.

They also need to either permanently ban users who use these services, or reset their account to it's creation (all level 1 toons but retain the character names). As it stands right now, someone can purchase the use of a powerleveling service and if Blizzard finds out they'll get suspended for a week. That's not a deterance.

Until Blizzard gets serious about dealing with this problem it will continue to remain.

  One of the reasons they most likely do not do that is because your credit card number is completely confidential..  Its possible they could be violating some privacy acts/laws if they were doing this.  Because they would infact be using your credit card information more then just the services you agreed upon.

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#18 sircyrus
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One of the reasons they most likely do not do that is because your credit card number is completely confidential..  Its possible they could be violating some privacy acts/laws if they were doing this.  Because they would infact be using your credit card information more then just the services you agreed upon.

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Right in the User Agreement for the services you've agreed upon it covers the sale of accounts, transfer of game items, etc. If someone has broken the agreement I'd think it would be legal to use their personal information to bar them from being able to use those services again.

According to Raph Koster (veteran MMO designer)...

"Customers are identified by credit card numbers, which cannot be legally shared with other companies".

So when someone is banned and tries to make a new account the company could have their card information blacklisted. That would prevent the MMO powerleveling/goldfarming services from being able to get back ingame right away by purchasing a cheap gamebox and resigning up.

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#19 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]One of the reasons they most likely do not do that is because your credit card number is completely confidential..  Its possible they could be violating some privacy acts/laws if they were doing this.  Because they would infact be using your credit card information more then just the services you agreed upon.

sircyrus

Right in the User Agreement for the services you've agreed upon it covers the sale of accounts, transfer of game items, etc. If someone has broken the agreement I'd think it would be legal to use their personal information to bar them from being able to use those services again.

According to Raph Koster (veteran MMO designer)...

"Customers are identified by credit card numbers, which cannot be legally shared with other companies".

So when someone is banned and tries to make a new account the company could have their card information blacklisted. That would prevent the MMO powerleveling/goldfarming services from being able to get back ingame right away by purchasing a cheap gamebox and resigning up.

  My point is there is some underlined rule or law against it most likely, I have never seen a single company do it for any type of service..  And Blizzard as well as other companies full well show that they are willing to ban accounts.. If they were as money whoring as people said they were, there would be many slap on the wrists and very few bans sense most average people will not rebuy the game and they lose out on the subscription money..  And top of that it is a fine line between that and a law suit, because who is to say that some one might take that up on banning from their services due to descrimination, the United States is a sue happy culture, as well as a great deal many other countries.  

  lets not forget this logic makes no sense to begin with because subscription cards can not be traced to begin with..  So I highly doubt they track customers with credit card numbers when not eveyr customer has a credit card number in....

  And these money farmers most assuredly do not use credit cards so its completely untraceable.. You can't even ban IP's because most of the time they are dynamic meaning they change every time you reboot your modem...

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#20 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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I thought it would be interesting to see if Blizzard actually ended up suing the gold farmer companies. It would have probably run them into the ground :P
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#21 nailfoot
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The laws in the countries these Gold Farmers operate out of protect them from certain lawsuits. I suspect this suit will fail as well due to those laws. Since the Gold Farmers are in said country, they are only bound by that country's laws. Of course, Blizzard can limit or remove access to their game, but actually taking legal action against them is probably frivolous.
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#22 dunamistheou
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WoW is a game, a game you waste $15/month.