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#1 Trinitarian
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  I have anywhere from 1000 to 2000 bucks to spend on a gaming PC. I really want a good one that i don't have to build myself since i have no idea how to do it. I would rather find a trusted website with some links from you guys on specific towers that you think will last me the entire next gen and be better than next gen systems. Thx. 

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I'm going through amazon and checking out some gaming rigs. So i'll keep posting links. If i'm getting warm or cold i would like someone out there to say ya or nay thx. http://www.amazon.com/Microtel-Computer%C2%AE-Liquid-Processor-Microsoft/dp/B004GW7PJM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1362131178&sr=8-6&keywords=gaming+computer
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heres another one: http://www.amazon.com/Microtel-Computer%C2%AE-AMTI9031-Processor-Microsoft/dp/B004AH9W8A/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1362131178&sr=8-13&keywords=gaming+computer
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http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

If you must than go here.

Still you should go self built just to get more out your money plus 10x the fun building your own.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26986920/picture-guide-to-computer-building-and-hardware-installation-56k sticky guide, its pretty universal so you can pretty much do it by reading that.

Nothing you buy will a generation. Highly specced pc at ps3/x360 launch still falls a bit short, gpu drivers are no longer supported that far, while console games are highly optimized to work with its dated hardware.

Cpu last 3-5 yrs, gpu last 2-3 years before upgrade roughly.

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http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

If you must than go here.

Still you should go self built just to get more out your money plus 10x the fun building your own.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26986920/picture-guide-to-computer-building-and-hardware-installation-56k sticky guide, its pretty universal so you can pretty much do it by reading that.

Nothing you buy will a generation. Highly specced pc at ps3/x360 launch still falls a bit short, gpu drivers are no longer supported that far, while console games are highly optimized to work with its dated hardware.

Cpu last 3-5 yrs, gpu last 2-3 years before upgrade roughly.

Bikouchu35
I've checked it out, the building your own PC. However, i wouldn't know were to start. There are so many things to buy, and i'm confused as to where and what brand to get. Then i know i'll just screw something up when trying to install it lol .Also, i'm sure it sould be quite sometime before i get everyting thing together at once and if something goes wrong then i'd be lost as to what it was. I really want to build my own but i know it would be a long project with several risk. I really want a top of the line gaming PC without having to build the dang thing. Anyway, what are some great PCs at that site you posted? Can you link a few? thx
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Do some research on your end, dont want to drop 1-2k and regret it.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_III/

swap gpu to gtx 670, powersupply 600w+, check for os, and check other items that suits your needs.

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Do some research on your end, dont want to drop 1-2k and regret it.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_III/

swap gpu to gtx 670, powersupply 600w+, check for os, and check other items that suits your needs.

Bikouchu35
well i might as well go take a computer class in college. My only needs are: I want to play every game in ultra high settings at 60 fps. I'm not asking much lol.
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well i might as well go take a computer class in college. My only needs are: I want to play every game in ultra high settings at 60 fps. I'm not asking much lol. Trinitarian

Lol! Tbh, I have never taken a class on computers regarding hardware and know enough to put together one since grade school to put it simply the subject of building a gaming rig isn't hard at all. Some posters here are like that too, heck even my friend figured it out with some online research and my help plus he isn't exactly smart either.

So yeah the easiest route is to buy through ibuypower or cyberpower. Gtx 680 or 7970 are top of the line single gpu besides the gtx titan. 3570k cpu is the best bang. 600-700watt psu is good. Get 16gb of ram. Best of luck.

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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"] well i might as well go take a computer class in college. My only needs are: I want to play every game in ultra high settings at 60 fps. I'm not asking much lol. Bikouchu35

Lol! Tbh, I have never taken a class on computers regarding hardware and know enough to put together one since grade school to put it simply the subject of building a gaming rig isn't hard at all. Some posters here are like that too, heck even my friend figured it out with some online research and my help plus he isn't exactly smart either.

So yeah the easiest route is to buy through ibuypower or cyberpower. Gtx 680 or 7970 are top of the line single gpu besides the gtx titan. 3570k cpu is the best bang. 600-700watt psu is good. Get 16gb of ram. Best of luck.

thanks, and real quick this guys is selling this computer in my area, what are your thoughts on it? http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/sys/3632501780.html
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^Pos. Worth $150 maybe, its used so no warranty. The card can only run minecraft. The cpu is okay but is outdated, I didn't bother to check the rest, probably somebody trying to make a quick buck off an old rig.

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Just make sure that the cpu you choose is a 3rd gen Intel Or AMD FX 8350 . My suggestion would be i5 3570k or AMD 8350. Skip the i7 ..

Biggest problem with pre-builts are the power supply and cooling fan for the cpu. Get atleast a good 630-650 Watt PSU, if the prebuilt comes with something like a 450 watt or 500 watt psu you might be screwed down the line if you do try to upgrade your graphic card.

For the GPU it depends how much money you trying to save. The 7950 is the best bang for buck on the market right now, And it overclocks really high. The 7970 is more value for money over the gtx 680. If you do go nvidia i'd say only their Gtx 670 is worth picking up , but even then i dunno.. Go with amd, more bang for buck and 3 free games with the card (crysis 3, bioshock infinite,Tomb Raider) . Make sure your pre-built gets these games if you do go with AMD.

For Ram.. 8 gigs DDR 3 1600 mhz should be fine. Dont fall for the "faster megahertz ram" or 16 gigs of ram. USELESS and a waste of money . Gaming pc will not need more than 8 gigs anytime soon.

Harddrive = 1 terabyte should be fine, SSD is optional.. Get it if you want faster load times in games and snappier performance on the desktop ( SSD'S dont give any extra framerates to games so keep that in mind) Everything should come in at $1000 dollars.

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Just make sure that the cpu you choose is a 3rd gen Intel Or AMD FX 8350 . My suggestion would be i5 3570k or AMD 8350. Skip the i7 ..

Biggest problem with pre-builts are the power supply and cooling fan for the cpu. Get atleast a good 630-650 Watt PSU, if the prebuilt comes with something like a 450 watt or 500 watt psu you might be screwed down the line if you do try to upgrade your graphic card.

For the GPU it depends how much money you trying to save. The 7950 is the best bang for buck on the market right now, And it overclocks really high. The 7970 is more value for money over the gtx 680. If you do go nvidia i'd say only their Gtx 670 is worth picking up , but even then i dunno.. Go with amd, more bang for buck and 3 free games with the card (crysis 3, bioshock infinite,Tomb Raider) . Make sure your pre-built gets these games if you do go with AMD.

For Ram.. 8 gigs DDR 3 1600 mhz should be fine. Dont fall for the "faster megahertz ram" or 16 gigs of ram. USELESS and a waste of money . Gaming pc will not need more than 8 gigs anytime soon.

Harddrive = 1 terabyte should be fine, SSD is optional.. Get it if you want faster load times in games and snappier performance on the desktop ( SSD'S dont give any extra framerates to games so keep that in mind) Everything should come in at $1000 dollars.

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hey thanks, can you go to this site http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ and find and then link a computer with all those basic parts you mentioned? I'm willing to spend a max of 2000 bucks all together. However, i also want a triple moniter setup. Not sure what to look for when picking up a computer on that note. Thus, i'm sure 3 monitors may run me close to a 1000 so i guess i'll be needing a computer around 1200 or so. If you do this thx a lot.
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Just make sure that the cpu you choose is a 3rd gen Intel Or AMD FX 8350 . My suggestion would be i5 3570k or AMD 8350. Skip the i7 ..

Biggest problem with pre-builts are the power supply and cooling fan for the cpu. Get atleast a good 630-650 Watt PSU, if the prebuilt comes with something like a 450 watt or 500 watt psu you might be screwed down the line if you do try to upgrade your graphic card.

For the GPU it depends how much money you trying to save. The 7950 is the best bang for buck on the market right now, And it overclocks really high. The 7970 is more value for money over the gtx 680. If you do go nvidia i'd say only their Gtx 670 is worth picking up , but even then i dunno.. Go with amd, more bang for buck and 3 free games with the card (crysis 3, bioshock infinite,Tomb Raider) . Make sure your pre-built gets these games if you do go with AMD.

For Ram.. 8 gigs DDR 3 1600 mhz should be fine. Dont fall for the "faster megahertz ram" or 16 gigs of ram. USELESS and a waste of money . Gaming pc will not need more than 8 gigs anytime soon.

Harddrive = 1 terabyte should be fine, SSD is optional.. Get it if you want faster load times in games and snappier performance on the desktop ( SSD'S dont give any extra framerates to games so keep that in mind) Everything should come in at $1000 dollars.

lunar1122
i think this is pretty close to what you describ http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000_SE am i right?
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Do some research on your end, dont want to drop 1-2k and regret it.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_III/

swap gpu to gtx 670, powersupply 600w+, check for os, and check other items that suits your needs.

Trinitarian
well i might as well go take a computer class in college. My only needs are: I want to play every game in ultra high settings at 60 fps. I'm not asking much lol.

Seriously? All games ultra at 60+ fps? You wil have to spend $1,000+ on the graphics card(s) alone. None of those prebuilts even comes close. If you can live with slightly lower frames but still quite playable, a GTX 680 will get you there, but the prebuilts still fall short.
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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Do some research on your end, dont want to drop 1-2k and regret it.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_III/

swap gpu to gtx 670, powersupply 600w+, check for os, and check other items that suits your needs.

Blistrax
well i might as well go take a computer class in college. My only needs are: I want to play every game in ultra high settings at 60 fps. I'm not asking much lol.

Seriously? All games ultra at 60+ fps? You wil have to spend $1,000+ on the graphics card(s) alone. None of those prebuilts even comes close. If you can live with slightly lower frames but still quite playable, a GTX 680 will get you there, but the prebuilts still fall short.

Can you check out this site and tell me what would come close then? http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000_SE
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[QUOTE="Blistrax"][QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Do some research on your end, dont want to drop 1-2k and regret it.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_III/

swap gpu to gtx 670, powersupply 600w+, check for os, and check other items that suits your needs.

Trinitarian

well i might as well go take a computer class in college. My only needs are: I want to play every game in ultra high settings at 60 fps. I'm not asking much lol.

Seriously? All games ultra at 60+ fps? You wil have to spend $1,000+ on the graphics card(s) alone. None of those prebuilts even comes close. If you can live with slightly lower frames but still quite playable, a GTX 680 will get you there, but the prebuilts still fall short.

Can you check out this site and tell me what would come close then? http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000_SE[/QUOTE]

The GTX 650 is only a moderately strong card. The graphics card is the determining factor in the power of a gaming rig---even if everything else has been teleported from the future, with a ho-hum card like that, you'll be disappointed. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-geforce-gtx-650-benchmark,3297-11.html

I was going to say you could get that rig and a second 650 in SLI, but the idiots have used a Crossfire motherboard ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128582 ) with an Nvidia card (and you'd need more power supply). Also, the liquid cooling is a gimmick, an unnecessary one considering that it's not overclocked. Don't let all the pretty lights suck you in.

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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="Blistrax"] well i might as well go take a computer class in college. My only needs are: I want to play every game in ultra high settings at 60 fps. I'm not asking much lol. Blistrax

Seriously? All games ultra at 60+ fps? You wil have to spend $1,000+ on the graphics card(s) alone. None of those prebuilts even comes close. If you can live with slightly lower frames but still quite playable, a GTX 680 will get you there, but the prebuilts still fall short.

Can you check out this site and tell me what would come close then? http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000_SE[/QUOTE]

The GTX 650 is only a moderately strong card. The graphics card is the determining factor in the power of a gaming rig---even if everything else has been teleported from the future, with a ho-hum card like that, you'll be disappointed. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-geforce-gtx-650-benchmark,3297-11.html

I was going to say you could get that rig and a second 650 in SLI, but the idiots have used a Crossfire motherboard ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128582 ) with an Nvidia card (and you'd need more power supply). Also, the liquid cooling is a gimmick, an unnecessary one considering that it's not overclocked. Don't let all the pretty lights suck you in.

Ok, can you PLEASE do this for me then. Find a computer on there and select all the custom parts and then copy and paste the link so i can check it out. It seems that since i have been seeking help all i get back in response is the problem, but never the solution. This is why i know i don't have the patience for building a computer atm. This is all so confusing.
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What are you asking is impossible! Also, stop being lazy and build your own PC and save a ton of money.

1. No single GPU can run 3 monitors on all ultra with 60FPS, unless you buy a Titan for 1000$, or a dual GPU GTX 690 for 1000$

2.Don't buy a gaming PC in a day...mine took 2-3 weeks to research, order, and put together...and I think I just spent 2 weeks looking everything up and studying, and I was dumb about PC's as you are.

Everything here comes up to about 1500$ and you can find nice 500$ 120HZ monitors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099&Tpk=hyper%20evo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-791&ParentOnly=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128498

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

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How about this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou would that be beast?
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What are you asking is impossible! Also, stop being lazy and build your own PC and save a ton of money.

1. No single GPU can run 3 monitors on all ultra with 60FPS, unless you buy a Titan for 1000$, or a dual GPU GTX 690 for 1000$

2.Don't buy a gaming PC in a day...mine took 2-3 weeks to research, order, and put together...and I think I just spent 2 weeks looking everything up and studying, and I was dumb about PC's as you are.

Everything here comes up to about 1500$ and you can find nice 500$ 120HZ monitors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099&Tpk=hyper%20evo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-791&ParentOnly=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128498

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

homeboylizard
nice thanks i'll look into these and is the build you have come up with better than this one?http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou
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[QUOTE="lunar1122"]

Just make sure that the cpu you choose is a 3rd gen Intel Or AMD FX 8350 . My suggestion would be i5 3570k or AMD 8350. Skip the i7 ..

Biggest problem with pre-builts are the power supply and cooling fan for the cpu. Get atleast a good 630-650 Watt PSU, if the prebuilt comes with something like a 450 watt or 500 watt psu you might be screwed down the line if you do try to upgrade your graphic card.

For the GPU it depends how much money you trying to save. The 7950 is the best bang for buck on the market right now, And it overclocks really high. The 7970 is more value for money over the gtx 680. If you do go nvidia i'd say only their Gtx 670 is worth picking up , but even then i dunno.. Go with amd, more bang for buck and 3 free games with the card (crysis 3, bioshock infinite,Tomb Raider) . Make sure your pre-built gets these games if you do go with AMD.

For Ram.. 8 gigs DDR 3 1600 mhz should be fine. Dont fall for the "faster megahertz ram" or 16 gigs of ram. USELESS and a waste of money . Gaming pc will not need more than 8 gigs anytime soon.

Harddrive = 1 terabyte should be fine, SSD is optional.. Get it if you want faster load times in games and snappier performance on the desktop ( SSD'S dont give any extra framerates to games so keep that in mind) Everything should come in at $1000 dollars.

Trinitarian

i think this is pretty close to what you describ http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000_SE am i right?

 

yes that site looks good for everything. ill go into specifics

( well this is my personal build, i can attest for it being very good and cheapest it gets for high performance pc)

 

 

-CPU i5 3570k   ( keep the amd  fx 8350 in mind though, its damn good as well if you want to go amd route, i went with intel when everybody was bashing amd but the fx 8350 changed that) 

 

-CPU COOLER :   Cooler master hyper 212 evo

-Motherboard : Just make sure its a Z77 if you go intel.    I went with Asrock Z77 extreme 4

 

-Hard drive : I went with Seagate Barrcuda 1 terabyte

-SSD : I went with Crucial M4 128 gig ssd

-GPU : ( THE most important part of your build). I went with AMD 7970.     The gtx 670 is also a good buy.  ( amd has promotion though so you might want to check that)

-Ram : i got 8 gigabytes of patriot viper DDR3 1600 mhz ram

-For Operating system, i pirated it.. No fuks given.

-650 Watt PSU 

 

System runs at  a permanent 4.3 Ghz overclock, i can go higher but its very hot here in the caribbean.  No game even asks for that much performance. Choose around the specs i have and i guarantee you be very happy gamer.  

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[QUOTE="homeboylizard"]

What are you asking is impossible! Also, stop being lazy and build your own PC and save a ton of money.

1. No single GPU can run 3 monitors on all ultra with 60FPS, unless you buy a Titan for 1000$, or a dual GPU GTX 690 for 1000$

2.Don't buy a gaming PC in a day...mine took 2-3 weeks to research, order, and put together...and I think I just spent 2 weeks looking everything up and studying, and I was dumb about PC's as you are.

Everything here comes up to about 1500$ and you can find nice 500$ 120HZ monitors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099&Tpk=hyper%20evo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-791&ParentOnly=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128498

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Trinitarian
nice thanks i'll look into these and is the build you have come up with better than this one?http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou

They are almost the same, just that my PSU is more futureproof, letting you add up 2 or even 3 GPU's. And my case is just bigger, meaning you can have more parts in there, an it has better cooling potential. In terms of power, they are the same.
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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="homeboylizard"]

What are you asking is impossible! Also, stop being lazy and build your own PC and save a ton of money.

1. No single GPU can run 3 monitors on all ultra with 60FPS, unless you buy a Titan for 1000$, or a dual GPU GTX 690 for 1000$

2.Don't buy a gaming PC in a day...mine took 2-3 weeks to research, order, and put together...and I think I just spent 2 weeks looking everything up and studying, and I was dumb about PC's as you are.

Everything here comes up to about 1500$ and you can find nice 500$ 120HZ monitors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099&Tpk=hyper%20evo

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nice thanks i'll look into these and is the build you have come up with better than this one?http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou

They are almost the same, just that my PSU is more futureproof, letting you add up 2 or even 3 GPU's. And my case is just bigger, meaning you can have more parts in there, an it has better cooling potential. In terms of power, they are the same.

ok i'm going to take a risk and buy all those parts and try and put together this computer. Thus, do you have any links to youtube videos that would be for this set up. Will i also need any type of tools, glue, ect. Furthermore, what kind of operating system should i get? do i need anything else like cables ect. And can you provide me with your email in a PM in case i have issues putting this together? Finally, are there any changes you think you should make for this set up? I'll be buying everything you put down on April 4th, so thanks for the help.
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Ok, can you PLEASE do this for me then. Find a computer on there and select all the custom parts and then copy and paste the link so i can check it out. It seems that since i have been seeking help all i get back in response is the problem, but never the solution. This is why i know i don't have the patience for building a computer atm. This is all so confusing. Trinitarian

I feel your pain. There are a million things to consider, and a billion ways to screw up.

Configurator/Cyrberpower X79 --- pick whatever case you like the looks of. I like a full tower for cooling and cable management, but they are huge. Sub a GTX 690 and the 750W Corsair power supply. You want a Samsung 840 250G SSD, too, as your primary drive (but that's optional in a gaming rig) with a 1TB Velociraptor data drive. Everything else stock, if you are running standard 5.1 PC speakers. A card reader is a nice extra.

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[QUOTE="homeboylizard"][QUOTE="Trinitarian"] nice thanks i'll look into these and is the build you have come up with better than this one?http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CsouTrinitarian
They are almost the same, just that my PSU is more futureproof, letting you add up 2 or even 3 GPU's. And my case is just bigger, meaning you can have more parts in there, an it has better cooling potential. In terms of power, they are the same.

ok i'm going to take a risk and buy all those parts and try and put together this computer. Thus, do you have any links to youtube videos that would be for this set up. Will i also need any type of tools, glue, ect. Furthermore, what kind of operating system should i get? do i need anything else like cables ect. And can you provide me with your email in a PM in case i have issues putting this together? Finally, are there any changes you think you should make for this set up? I'll be buying everything you put down on April 4th, so thanks for the help.

 

if you only getting 1 graphic card, you dont need such a strong PSU. If you want take the money you saved on the psu and get 7970

Your motherboard in the link isnt a Z77 . Get a Z77 instead.

for the ram, you can save money and get the standard 1600megahertz ram. That 1866 makes 1 frame difference.. Not worth the money .Fast ram  matters more for APU or integrated graphics, Since you not gaming on an APU or integrated... 1600 is fast enough

 

Thats all i can see as overspending problems for that build. Well you could probably go cheaper on the harddrive as well, since you gaming on SSD, you dont need the best of the best hard-drives.   Step it down to like an $80 1 terabyte version instead

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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="homeboylizard"] They are almost the same, just that my PSU is more futureproof, letting you add up 2 or even 3 GPU's. And my case is just bigger, meaning you can have more parts in there, an it has better cooling potential. In terms of power, they are the same.lunar1122

ok i'm going to take a risk and buy all those parts and try and put together this computer. Thus, do you have any links to youtube videos that would be for this set up. Will i also need any type of tools, glue, ect. Furthermore, what kind of operating system should i get? do i need anything else like cables ect. And can you provide me with your email in a PM in case i have issues putting this together? Finally, are there any changes you think you should make for this set up? I'll be buying everything you put down on April 4th, so thanks for the help.

 

if you only getting 1 graphic card, you dont need such a strong PSU. If you want take the money you saved on the psu and get 7970

Your motherboard in the link isnt a Z77 . Get a Z77 instead.

for the ram, you can save money and get the standard 1600megahertz ram. That 1866 makes 1 frame difference.. Not worth the money .Fast ram  matters more for APU or integrated graphics, Since you not gaming on an APU or integrated... 1600 is fast enough

 

Thats all i can see as overspending problems for that build. Well you could probably go cheaper on the harddrive as well, since you gaming on SSD, you dont need the best of the best hard-drives.   Step it down to like an $80 1 terabyte version instead

Well, I made it in like 10 minutes, as an example of how a PC should look like. Furthermore, I strongly advise that the guy making the PC makes his own conf. After looking up YT videos, reading guides and the best thing I recommend:

MESS AROUND WITH YOUR CURRENT PC!!! Srsly, open up any PC you have and mess around with it, look at the parts and soon you'l start noticing how easy the parts are to put together, like LEGOS.

 

P.S. If you are ordering a month from now I'd ask again then for help because in a month new tech may come out, like new GPU's that are better than current ones. And a month should be more than enough to get the hang of the PC.

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#27 Trinitarian
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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="homeboylizard"] They are almost the same, just that my PSU is more futureproof, letting you add up 2 or even 3 GPU's. And my case is just bigger, meaning you can have more parts in there, an it has better cooling potential. In terms of power, they are the same.lunar1122

ok i'm going to take a risk and buy all those parts and try and put together this computer. Thus, do you have any links to youtube videos that would be for this set up. Will i also need any type of tools, glue, ect. Furthermore, what kind of operating system should i get? do i need anything else like cables ect. And can you provide me with your email in a PM in case i have issues putting this together? Finally, are there any changes you think you should make for this set up? I'll be buying everything you put down on April 4th, so thanks for the help.

 

if you only getting 1 graphic card, you dont need such a strong PSU. If you want take the money you saved on the psu and get 7970

Your motherboard in the link isnt a Z77 . Get a Z77 instead.

for the ram, you can save money and get the standard 1600megahertz ram. That 1866 makes 1 frame difference.. Not worth the money .Fast ram  matters more for APU or integrated graphics, Since you not gaming on an APU or integrated... 1600 is fast enough

 

Thats all i can see as overspending problems for that build. Well you could probably go cheaper on the harddrive as well, since you gaming on SSD, you dont need the best of the best hard-drives.   Step it down to like an $80 1 terabyte version instead

i really want the best for the money i'm going to spend. I don't want to down grade stuff to save 80 bucks here or there. If i have more than one graphic card will that give me graphics or is that just for multimonitoers? and what do you mean "since i'd be gaming on an SSD i don't need the best harddrives?"
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#28 Trinitarian
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[QUOTE="lunar1122"]

[QUOTE="Trinitarian"] ok i'm going to take a risk and buy all those parts and try and put together this computer. Thus, do you have any links to youtube videos that would be for this set up. Will i also need any type of tools, glue, ect. Furthermore, what kind of operating system should i get? do i need anything else like cables ect. And can you provide me with your email in a PM in case i have issues putting this together? Finally, are there any changes you think you should make for this set up? I'll be buying everything you put down on April 4th, so thanks for the help.homeboylizard

 

if you only getting 1 graphic card, you dont need such a strong PSU. If you want take the money you saved on the psu and get 7970

Your motherboard in the link isnt a Z77 . Get a Z77 instead.

for the ram, you can save money and get the standard 1600megahertz ram. That 1866 makes 1 frame difference.. Not worth the money .Fast ram  matters more for APU or integrated graphics, Since you not gaming on an APU or integrated... 1600 is fast enough

 

Thats all i can see as overspending problems for that build. Well you could probably go cheaper on the harddrive as well, since you gaming on SSD, you dont need the best of the best hard-drives.   Step it down to like an $80 1 terabyte version instead

Well, I made it in like 10 minutes, as an example of how a PC should look like. Furthermore, I strongly advise that the guy making the PC makes his own conf. After looking up YT videos, reading guides and the best thing I recommend:

MESS AROUND WITH YOUR CURRENT PC!!! Srsly, open up any PC you have and mess around with it, look at the parts and soon you'l start noticing how easy the parts are to put together, like LEGOS.

 

P.S. If you are ordering a month from now I'd ask again then for help because in a month new tech may come out, like new GPU's that are better than current ones. And a month should be more than enough to get the hang of the PC.

um i meant i wanted to order stuff in 4 days, i didnt mean a month lol srry for the confusion
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#29 homeboylizard
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[QUOTE="lunar1122"]

[QUOTE="Trinitarian"] ok i'm going to take a risk and buy all those parts and try and put together this computer. Thus, do you have any links to youtube videos that would be for this set up. Will i also need any type of tools, glue, ect. Furthermore, what kind of operating system should i get? do i need anything else like cables ect. And can you provide me with your email in a PM in case i have issues putting this together? Finally, are there any changes you think you should make for this set up? I'll be buying everything you put down on April 4th, so thanks for the help.Trinitarian

 

if you only getting 1 graphic card, you dont need such a strong PSU. If you want take the money you saved on the psu and get 7970

Your motherboard in the link isnt a Z77 . Get a Z77 instead.

for the ram, you can save money and get the standard 1600megahertz ram. That 1866 makes 1 frame difference.. Not worth the money .Fast ram  matters more for APU or integrated graphics, Since you not gaming on an APU or integrated... 1600 is fast enough

 

Thats all i can see as overspending problems for that build. Well you could probably go cheaper on the harddrive as well, since you gaming on SSD, you dont need the best of the best hard-drives.   Step it down to like an $80 1 terabyte version instead

i really want the best for the money i'm going to spend. I don't want to down grade stuff to save 80 bucks here or there. If i have more than one graphic card will that give me graphics or is that just for multimonitoers? and what do you mean "since i'd be gaming on an SSD i don't need the best harddrives?"

This is exactly why you need to start informing :) Now, to give you an example for more Graphics Cards- If you have a horse (GPU) and a carriage (3D app.) the horse can pull it with no problems, but at a slow speed (FPS) . Now, if you have 2 horses (2 GPU's) pulling 1 carriage you will go faster and further, but with the cost of more food (POWER). Adding more GPU's increase the performance but it doesn't scale 100% to 200%, but lower, maybe like 100%-160% to 170% meaning that you won't have double FPS with 2GPU's.

And also...really??? We are going to cheap out on fricking HDDs??? 7200 RPM is a standard now.

Also for the orginal TC-Don't purchase these parts, it is just an example of how you can build it.

 

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#30 Trinitarian
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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="lunar1122"]

 

if you only getting 1 graphic card, you dont need such a strong PSU. If you want take the money you saved on the psu and get 7970

Your motherboard in the link isnt a Z77 . Get a Z77 instead.

for the ram, you can save money and get the standard 1600megahertz ram. That 1866 makes 1 frame difference.. Not worth the money .Fast ram  matters more for APU or integrated graphics, Since you not gaming on an APU or integrated... 1600 is fast enough

 

Thats all i can see as overspending problems for that build. Well you could probably go cheaper on the harddrive as well, since you gaming on SSD, you dont need the best of the best hard-drives.   Step it down to like an $80 1 terabyte version instead

homeboylizard

i really want the best for the money i'm going to spend. I don't want to down grade stuff to save 80 bucks here or there. If i have more than one graphic card will that give me graphics or is that just for multimonitoers? and what do you mean "since i'd be gaming on an SSD i don't need the best harddrives?"

This is exactly why you need to start informing :) Now, to give you an example for more Graphics Cards- If you have a horse (GPU) and a carriage (3D app.) the horse can pull it with no problems, but at a slow speed (FPS) . Now, if you have 2 horses (2 GPU's) pulling 1 carriage you will go faster and further, but with the cost of more food (POWER). Adding more GPU's increase the performance but it doesn't scale 100% to 200%, but lower, maybe like 100%-160% to 170% meaning that you won't have double FPS with 2GPU's.

And also...really??? We are going to cheap out on fricking HDDs??? 7200 RPM is a standard now.

Also for the orginal TC-Don't purchase these parts, it is just an example of how you can build it.

 

ok i found this build since you said i shouldn't get your parts. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou is this a power house?
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i never said for him to get a slower harddrive, i said he could get a seagate barrcuda at 80 bucks instead, which has the same performance as the western digital black without the extra cost. its 7200 rpm 64 meg cache.   

 

I just here to tell you that you arent compromising with my choice parts, but if you feel like spending more and have money to burn, Its all up to you . Go ahead and spend 15 dollars more on ram for 1 frame extra in your games, go ahead and buy that 850 watt psu instead of putting into an even higher graphic card. .. 850 watt is very high..  

If you do have plans to buy 2 graphic cards, then yes this makes sense. If not its wasting money to get such a high wattage. 

 

I said my piece, you go ahead and do what you gotta do. 

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i never said for him to get a slower harddrive, i said he could get a seagate barrcuda at 80 bucks instead, which has the same performance as the western digital black without the extra cost. its 7200 rpm 64 meg cache.   

 

I just here to tell you that you arent compromising with my choice parts, but if you feel like spending more and have money to burn, Its all up to you . Go ahead and spend 15 dollars more on ram for 1 frame extra in your games, go ahead and buy that 850 watt psu instead of putting into an even higher graphic card. .. 850 watt is very high..  

If you do have plans to buy 2 graphic cards, then yes this makes sense. If not its wasting money to get such a high wattage. 

 

I said my piece, you go ahead and do what you gotta do. 

lunar1122
nah i like hearing different view points. what do you think of this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou
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#33 lunar1122
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[QUOTE="lunar1122"]

i never said for him to get a slower harddrive, i said he could get a seagate barrcuda at 80 bucks instead, which has the same performance as the western digital black without the extra cost. its 7200 rpm 64 meg cache.   

 

I just here to tell you that you arent compromising with my choice parts, but if you feel like spending more and have money to burn, Its all up to you . Go ahead and spend 15 dollars more on ram for 1 frame extra in your games, go ahead and buy that 850 watt psu instead of putting into an even higher graphic card. .. 850 watt is very high..  

If you do have plans to buy 2 graphic cards, then yes this makes sense. If not its wasting money to get such a high wattage. 

 

I said my piece, you go ahead and do what you gotta do. 

Trinitarian

nah i like hearing different view points. what do you think of this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou

 

looks good, step up the powersupply a little bit to like around the 650 watt range to give some leeway as the 7970 does suck a bit of power  ( do you plan on getting more than 1 gpu or are you a single gpu guy?) 

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#34 Trinitarian
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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="lunar1122"]

i never said for him to get a slower harddrive, i said he could get a seagate barrcuda at 80 bucks instead, which has the same performance as the western digital black without the extra cost. its 7200 rpm 64 meg cache.   

 

I just here to tell you that you arent compromising with my choice parts, but if you feel like spending more and have money to burn, Its all up to you . Go ahead and spend 15 dollars more on ram for 1 frame extra in your games, go ahead and buy that 850 watt psu instead of putting into an even higher graphic card. .. 850 watt is very high..  

If you do have plans to buy 2 graphic cards, then yes this makes sense. If not its wasting money to get such a high wattage. 

 

I said my piece, you go ahead and do what you gotta do. 

lunar1122

nah i like hearing different view points. what do you think of this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou

 

looks good, step up the powersupply a little bit to like around the 650 watt range to give some leeway as the 7970 does suck a bit of power  ( do you plan on getting more than 1 gpu or are you a single gpu guy?) 

to be honest i'm trying to figure out what type of guy i am. I want to have a plan within 3 days and start buying parts. However, the more sites i go to there seems to be a billion trillion possible ways to make a computer. I've watched YT vids on how to put a computer together so it doesn't seem too hard. However, if having two GPUs will mean i'll have better graphics i want to go that route. However, i'm now considering this as my GPUhttp://pcpartpicker.com/part/galaxy-video-card-67nqh6dn6kxz and it cost 400 bucks. Also, everyones talking about the 700 something or the AMB 8000 if i even have that right thats supposed to come out soon so now idk if i should wait or if i can get the 670 now and the other new ones will be compatible. Its basic stuff like that i don't have any clue on. Anyhow, whats your take on more than 1 gpu? anyhow, i do aggree that getting a 650 watt PSU is wise.
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#35 lunar1122
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if you getting 2 gpu's then you might have to go higher on psu.

 

for me personally, i only go 1 gpu...  

 

The benefits of 2 gpu is better performance.     Whatever card you get that was mentioned, will be able to play games on highest settings, but 2 gpus instead will play games on highest settings with higher framerates.

 

So far the only game that actually is worth getting 2 gpu's for is crysis 3. But its not like a 7970 struggles playing it.   I maxed out crysis 3 at 1080p with 2x msaa and got ALOT of frames per sec. Very playable. Its the people trying to push 4x msaa and higher that will need 2 gpus..    And to be honest higher levels of msaa i see little to no difference...

Go 2 gpu if you want the absolute best of the best performance and money isnt an issue. Stick with 1 solid gpu if money is an issue .  2 gpu's dont scale completely so there is alot of wasted potiential as well at a high price. 

you could wait for the new gpus from AMD and Nvidia but rumor is AMD own wont come out till end of this year, and likewise for nvidia..

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#36 homeboylizard
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[QUOTE="lunar1122"]

[QUOTE="Trinitarian"] nah i like hearing different view points. what do you think of this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CsouTrinitarian

 

looks good, step up the powersupply a little bit to like around the 650 watt range to give some leeway as the 7970 does suck a bit of power  ( do you plan on getting more than 1 gpu or are you a single gpu guy?) 

to be honest i'm trying to figure out what type of guy i am. I want to have a plan within 3 days and start buying parts. However, the more sites i go to there seems to be a billion trillion possible ways to make a computer. I've watched YT vids on how to put a computer together so it doesn't seem too hard. However, if having two GPUs will mean i'll have better graphics i want to go that route. However, i'm now considering this as my GPUhttp://pcpartpicker.com/part/galaxy-video-card-67nqh6dn6kxz and it cost 400 bucks. Also, everyones talking about the 700 something or the AMB 8000 if i even have that right thats supposed to come out soon so now idk if i should wait or if i can get the 670 now and the other new ones will be compatible. Its basic stuff like that i don't have any clue on. Anyhow, whats your take on more than 1 gpu? anyhow, i do aggree that getting a 650 watt PSU is wise.

If you are on a budget then skip Nvidia...AMD is better bang for the buck. Also, if you can wait for the GTX 700 and AMD 8000 than that would be by far the best choice.
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#37 kraken2109
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IMO if you know nothing about computers you won't enjoy owning a gaming PC.

I wouldn't say there's a lot of hassle, but things that seem easy and obvious to fix for the people her may not be for you.

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Find a nerd and offer to pay him $50, he'll pick out the parts and build you a nice rig for alot less than $1000-$2000.

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There were a few people who actually built rigs for others on here. Maybe someone will offer.

I remember their being a female who did it, who was pretty known here on the forums, but I can't remember her screename.

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#40 KABCOOL
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I built my first PC when I was 12. Trust me its extremely straight forward anyone can do it.

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#41 soolkiki
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[QUOTE="homeboylizard"]

What are you asking is impossible! Also, stop being lazy and build your own PC and save a ton of money.

1. No single GPU can run 3 monitors on all ultra with 60FPS, unless you buy a Titan for 1000$, or a dual GPU GTX 690 for 1000$

2.Don't buy a gaming PC in a day...mine took 2-3 weeks to research, order, and put together...and I think I just spent 2 weeks looking everything up and studying, and I was dumb about PC's as you are.

Everything here comes up to about 1500$ and you can find nice 500$ 120HZ monitors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099&Tpk=hyper%20evo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-791&ParentOnly=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128498

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

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Trinitarian

nice thanks i'll look into these and is the build you have come up with better than this one?http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Csou

Yours and his are quite even, though I would go to a much more powerful power supply. Don't wimp out on that.

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#42 Lach0121
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I built my first PC when I was 12. Trust me its extremely straight forward anyone can do it.

KABCOOL

Agreed, get the motherboard new, it comes with instructions for basically how to setup the entire rig.

I built my first about 5 years ago, that build I am still on running pretty strong with upgrades. Built a couple for others since, (haven't had a real problem out of those yet)

 

Anyone that has worked on model cars, or legos when they were younger shouldn't really have an issue actually building the rig. Just to be careful, don't act like some ape when putting it together lol :)

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#43 blaznwiipspman1
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swap out the 680 for the 7970.  Most people here are nvidia fanboys so they will always recommend a weaker card like the 680 over the 7970.  Toms hardware ranks the 7970 as the single fastest gpu on the market, but everyone here will deny it.  Sad state that computer hardware forums has become

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#44 GTR12
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If you want 3 monitors, you need a minimum of 2 GPU's. 1 GPU can't do all the work.

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#45 mitu123
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If you want 3 monitors, you need a minimum of 2 GPU's. 1 GPU can't do all the work.

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Yep, though 3 is the best way to go.

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#46 TwistedShade
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swap out the 680 for the 7970.  Most people here are nvidia fanboys so they will always recommend a weaker card like the 680 over the 7970.  Toms hardware ranks the 7970 as the single fastest gpu on the market, but everyone here will deny it.  Sad state that computer hardware forums has become

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You can't blame people for having their own opinion's. Not to mention Nvidia has better driver support, Phyx for what it's worth, and they tend to be quieter/cooler.

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#47 Blistrax
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

swap out the 680 for the 7970. Most people here are nvidia fanboys so they will always recommend a weaker card like the 680 over the 7970. Toms hardware ranks the 7970 as the single fastest gpu on the market, but everyone here will deny it. Sad state that computer hardware forums has become

TwistedShade

You can't blame people for having their own opinion's. Not to mention Nvidia has better driver support, Phyx for what it's worth, and they tend to be quieter/cooler.

Not to mention tessellation, and CUDA for folding.

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#49 homeboylizard
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

swap out the 680 for the 7970.  Most people here are nvidia fanboys so they will always recommend a weaker card like the 680 over the 7970.  Toms hardware ranks the 7970 as the single fastest gpu on the market, but everyone here will deny it.  Sad state that computer hardware forums has become

TwistedShade

You can't blame people for having their own opinion's. Not to mention Nvidia has better driver support, Phyx for what it's worth, and they tend to be quieter/cooler.

The driver support is a myth since the 12.1 drivers. And Physx is a gimmick, used by 30 games tops. And Batman AC and BL 2 were the only ones that actually used it. And I though the 7970 handles tesselation extremely well...maybe even competes with a GTX 680, but didn't really pay attention to that with the last few generations.