Im done with NVIDIA

Bought 3 cards from nvidia all were complete ****.

8800 ultra: full of nvlddmkm display driver crashes, nvidia customer service did not help me at all with this problem. they expected me to go find solutions posted in random forums on the internet. not to mention that its overpriced and now discontinued :roll:

9800gx2: full of noticeable microstuttering. 30 fps looks like 15 fps in crysis. the 8800 ultra despite getting lower frame rates actually looked like it was running smoother. also discontinued.

gtx 280: i plugged this one in just a while ago. fired up crysis gpu benchmark and the card got hotter than an oven in LESS THAN 4 MINUTES and crashed my computer. windows wouldnt boot. turned off my pc unplugged the card and tried again. this time it did not last more than 2 minutes in the crysis benchmark. when i took it out it felt hotter than hell. what a piece of ****.

never buying another nvidia card again.let this be a lesson to anyone who is considering any of these cards. EXPECT ISSUES. I can honestly say its not worth the trouble. I now have to RMA all three cards :evil:.

ATI here i come

Sounds like user error to me. I mean 3 different cards, and 3 different problems. While I use ATI now, I have never had a problem with a single Nvidia card, while I have had 2 ATI dud's

If it is not user error, then you just have very bad luck, Nvidia would not stay in business if they made that bad of components.

What brand was it, it is the manufacturers responsibility to help, not Nvidia anyways.

GTX280 won't cause a computer not to boot... You probably have a issue elsewhere. This might sound stupid, but I think your CPU might be overheating. If the CPU overheats, it can cause the computer to crash (unable to boot until it cools down). It can also cause reduced framerates before it crashes. Display driver crashes are due to bad memory, overclocking, or driver issues (overheating GPU can also cause the display driver to crash, but that's usually a direct result of overclocking).

ATi also has all the issues you described in the nvidia cards.

So before you go throwing away the GTX280, test the CPU/Memory. You can download a program to test the memory and there's another to see CPU heat (you can also touch it and if it hurts/burns after a crash then it's probably overheating).

Bought 3 cards from nvidia all were complete ****.

8800 ultra: full of nvlddmkm display driver crashes, nvidia customer service did not help me at all with this problem. they expected me to go find solutions posted in random forums on the internet. not to mention that its overpriced and now discontinued :roll:

mephisto_11

Really? Then what was this post about, sounds more like you made a bad decision, and sent it back. There was no mention of crashes.

I think that thread right there explains everything, LOL.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Bought 3 cards from nvidia all were complete ****.

8800 ultra: full of nvlddmkm display driver crashes, nvidia customer service did not help me at all with this problem. they expected me to go find solutions posted in random forums on the internet. not to mention that its overpriced and now discontinued :roll:

opamando

Really? Then what was this post about, sounds more like you made a bad decision, and sent it back. There was no mention of crashes.

I think that thread right there explains everything, LOL.

i dont get what you're saying , i returned the 8800 ultra because of the display driver crashes when i had more than 2 gb of memory. the 9800gx2 didnt have these issues. 9800gx2 is an ok card except for the microstuttering. the gtx280 overheating issues are prevalent just run a google search

[QUOTE="opamando"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Bought 3 cards from nvidia all were complete ****.

8800 ultra: full of nvlddmkm display driver crashes, nvidia customer service did not help me at all with this problem. they expected me to go find solutions posted in random forums on the internet. not to mention that its overpriced and now discontinued :roll:

mephisto_11

Really? Then what was this post about, sounds more like you made a bad decision, and sent it back. There was no mention of crashes.

I think that thread right there explains everything, LOL.

i dont get what you're saying , i returned the 8800 ultra because of the display driver crashes when i had more than 2 gb of memory. the 9800gx2 didnt have these issues. 9800gx2 is an ok card except for the microstuttering. the gtx280 overheating issues are prevalent just run a google search

Why did you not mention the crashes there then, all you said was "i bought the 8800ultra last week and still have 20 days on the store warranty. the price difference is about $70. is the performance upgrade worth it?" Then said you ordered the new one.

Also what brand is was your GPU's, did you ever try and contact the actual manufacturer?

From everything I have understood, chances are there is a problem other than the GPU, and even an ATI card might go all screwy. But that's just me. ATI's are great though, so if you get one you should be pleased, just there drivers and support leaves a lot to be desired.

Overheating on your GTX 280 is not normal at all. My 260 is OC'd to roughly equivalent speeds to the 280 (higher core clock, same shader clock, slightly less memory clock), and it never gets above the low 70's C on load. You must have a defective card or terrible case airflow or something.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="opamando"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Bought 3 cards from nvidia all were complete ****.

8800 ultra: full of nvlddmkm display driver crashes, nvidia customer service did not help me at all with this problem. they expected me to go find solutions posted in random forums on the internet. not to mention that its overpriced and now discontinued :roll:

opamando

Really? Then what was this post about, sounds more like you made a bad decision, and sent it back. There was no mention of crashes.

I think that thread right there explains everything, LOL.

i dont get what you're saying , i returned the 8800 ultra because of the display driver crashes when i had more than 2 gb of memory. the 9800gx2 didnt have these issues. 9800gx2 is an ok card except for the microstuttering. the gtx280 overheating issues are prevalent just run a google search

Why did you not mention the crashes there then, all you said was "i bought the 8800ultra last week and still have 20 days on the store warranty. the price difference is about $70. is the performance upgrade worth it?" Then said you ordered the new one.

Also what brand is was your GPU's, did you ever try and contact the actual manufacturer?

From everything I have understood, chances are there is a problem other than the GPU, and even an ATI card might go all screwy. But that's just me. ATI's are great though, so if you get one you should be pleased, just there drivers and support leaves a lot to be desired.

i posted my display driver crash errors on the nvidia forums because i would get better help there(ngot no help). like i said if these issues are caused by my pc how come the 9800gx2 ran fine except for the microstuttering? the 8800 ultra ran but i had to take out a stick of ram?

Overheating on your GTX 280 is not normal at all. My 260 is OC'd to roughly equivalent speeds to the 280 (higher core clock, same shader clock, slightly less memory clock), and it never gets above the low 70's C on load. You must have a defective card or terrible case airflow or something.

JP_Russell

i have two 120mm case fan, one side 90mm case fan, only 1 hd and nothing sitting below my videocard. if it wasn't factory defective it wouldnt have overheated in 5 minutes. my 9800 gx2 is running right now.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115423

look at this poll 60% of gtx 280 users are having overheating issues.

30% of vista crashes in 2008 caused by nvidia : http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/

Is your motherboard AMD?f-a-d-3

Look at his sig.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115423

look at this poll 60% of gtx 280 users are having overheating issues.

mephisto_11

Out of 107 voters. Not the most conclusive survey, not to mention people with overheating issues are going to search that sort of thread out more than people without overheating issues. Then you have to factor in the people who just don't know what they're doing and have bad cooling, or think they're overheating because they think it's too hot to the touch instead of using a temperature guage, or assume overheating is the reason for crashes and whatnot when it's actually unstable voltage or inadequate power, and so on. Also, looking at another source of opinions - reviews on Newegg - few have complained about heat problems.

Anyway, the fact remains that defective cards exist in any lineup, and non-defective 280's run just fine in proper conditions, just like my non-defective 260 runs fine. All you have to do is RMA and get a new one. Your experience with the 8800 Ultra is unfortunate, and anyone could have told you that the 9800GX2 has microstuttering (like any multi-GPU setup) before you got it, but the heat issue with your 280 is not normal at all.

30% of vista crashes in 2008 caused by nvidia : http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/

mephisto_11

Which is only relevant to your problems with the 8800 Ultra, and which most of us already know about. Now you're just reaching for reasons to put down nVidia out of anger. Yes, that's unfortunate that nVidia has caused those crashes, but so have ATI's drivers to a lesser extent. It speaks to me more of a certain design to Vista that is difficult to code for or around, and ATI did a better job of it. You're always going to have ups and downs to both companies' drivers, and ATI has their share of driver problems, as well.

heh complain about nvidia card running hot so you go ATI. theyre known to run hotter...blackacidevl

No he complained about it crashing from overheating, not so much just being hot. They do run hot and thats okay, as long as it doesn't crash.

Invest in a decent case you cant be using a normal desktop case when working with these kind of graphics cards.Colin789

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133132

this is the case im using. it has two 120 mm fans (front + rear) and a side 90mm fan. i took out the hd bay so it has a lot of space. there is 10 cm clearance between the bottom of my case and the videocard, and the hdd is not sitting underneath it so its not obstructing the vc's fan. there should be no reason for it to overheat due to cooling.

[QUOTE="Colin789"]Invest in a decent case you cant be using a normal desktop case when working with these kind of graphics cards.mephisto_11

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133132

this is the case im using. it has two 120 mm fans (front + rear) and a side 90mm fan. i took out the hd bay so it has a lot of space. there is 10 cm clearance between the bottom of my case and the videocard, and the hdd is not sitting underneath it so its not obstructing the vc's fan. there should be no reason for it to overheat due to cooling.

Yeah you probably just got a bum card. Cant go wrong with a 4870x2!

my 8800gtx is running smooth as silk. sorry for your misfortune.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

[QUOTE="Colin789"]Invest in a decent case you cant be using a normal desktop case when working with these kind of graphics cards.musclesforcier

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133132

this is the case im using. it has two 120 mm fans (front + rear) and a side 90mm fan. i took out the hd bay so it has a lot of space. there is 10 cm clearance between the bottom of my case and the videocard, and the hdd is not sitting underneath it so its not obstructing the vc's fan. there should be no reason for it to overheat due to cooling.

Yeah you probably just got a bum card. Cant go wrong with a 4870x2!

Err, well, it unfortunately also suffers from some microstuttering (despite ATI's efforts and claims before release :(), and since that's why he doesn't like his 9800GX2, that might not be the best option for him.

[QUOTE="musclesforcier"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

[QUOTE="Colin789"]Invest in a decent case you cant be using a normal desktop case when working with these kind of graphics cards.JP_Russell

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133132

this is the case im using. it has two 120 mm fans (front + rear) and a side 90mm fan. i took out the hd bay so it has a lot of space. there is 10 cm clearance between the bottom of my case and the videocard, and the hdd is not sitting underneath it so its not obstructing the vc's fan. there should be no reason for it to overheat due to cooling.

Yeah you probably just got a bum card. Cant go wrong with a 4870x2!

Err, well, it unfortunately also suffers from some microstuttering (despite ATI's efforts and claims before release :(), and since that's why he doesn't like his 9800GX2, that might not be the best option for him.

I still don't understand why he's sitting around whining instead of RMAing his GTX 280 in order to avoid that microstuttering.

[QUOTE="musclesforcier"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

[QUOTE="Colin789"]Invest in a decent case you cant be using a normal desktop case when working with these kind of graphics cards.JP_Russell

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133132

this is the case im using. it has two 120 mm fans (front + rear) and a side 90mm fan. i took out the hd bay so it has a lot of space. there is 10 cm clearance between the bottom of my case and the videocard, and the hdd is not sitting underneath it so its not obstructing the vc's fan. there should be no reason for it to overheat due to cooling.

Yeah you probably just got a bum card. Cant go wrong with a 4870x2!

Err, well, it unfortunately also suffers from some microstuttering (despite ATI's efforts and claims before release :(), and since that's why he doesn't like his 9800GX2, that might not be the best option for him.

yup i just want a working gtx 280, i believe that it's the best card, but nvidia has ticked me off so hard with their customer service and defective cards. i still cant get my gtx 280 to run crysis

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

[QUOTE="Colin789"]Invest in a decent case you cant be using a normal desktop case when working with these kind of graphics cards.musclesforcier

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133132

this is the case im using. it has two 120 mm fans (front + rear) and a side 90mm fan. i took out the hd bay so it has a lot of space. there is 10 cm clearance between the bottom of my case and the videocard, and the hdd is not sitting underneath it so its not obstructing the vc's fan. there should be no reason for it to overheat due to cooling.

Yeah you probably just got a bum card. Cant go wrong with a 4870x2!

yup i just want a working gtx 280, i believe that it's the best card, but nvidia has ticked me off so hard with their customer service and defective cards. i still cant get my gtx 280 to run crysis

mephisto_11

Well, customer support is more up to the manufacturer, and you'll get defective cards sometimes with any brand and any company. You were just unlucky. You can either RMA to get a new one, or get a refund and use your 9800GX2 while you hang tight for GT200b if you want the best single-GPU solution out there.

got the card running without crashing but i had to set my cpu back to stock clocks. im guess i wont be able to reach 3.1 ghz with this card anymore.mephisto_11

Um... If downclocking your CPU made everything work, then the problem had nothing to do with your GTX 280.

I'm thinking maybe your power supply can't handle the load. A 280 on load uses slightly more power than a 9800GX2. It's possible that you're pulling more power than your PSU can generate when you have a GTX 280 coupled with a C2Q at 3.1GHz, and that it's just managing to supply enough power to a 9800GX2. The video card and CPU both draw power from the 12V, afterall... What amperage is/are your 12V rail(s) rated for?

Microstuttering isn't that bad, the performance gain in a multi-gpu setup totally outweighs it.ZeRo2545

Depends on the person. Some people notice it more than others.

I'm just curious. Who is the manufacture of this card?

1. Get decent drivers
2. Update your drivers or maybe you have xray vision?
3. What do you expect from a beast of a card, get better cooling.

:)

yup i just want a working gtx 280, i believe that it's the best card, but nvidia has ticked me off so hard with their customer service and defective cards. i still cant get my gtx 280 to run crysis

mephisto_11

Who's customer service? It is up to the manufacturer of your card to offer customer service, not Nvidia.

What brand is the GPU?

Sounds like user error to me. I mean 3 different cards, and 3 different problems. While I use ATI now, I have never had a problem with a single Nvidia card, while I have had 2 ATI dud's

If it is not user error, then you just have very bad luck, Nvidia would not stay in business if they made that bad of components.

What brand was it, it is the manufacturers responsibility to help, not Nvidia anyways.

opamando

yea I agree its sounds like a noob user wasnt competent enough

Soon May be GX2 of of 280.bike749

No. A dual card version of a GTX 280 is impossible because of how huge the die is. Can't be done.

always check the video card's requirements .

PSU is like the main thing to run a GPU and u will need the watt plugs to run the latest GPU's.

Otherwise u cannot use them at all.

you're done with Nvidia?

WELL NVIDIA IS DONE WITH YOU

guys, my ati 4870x2 keeps crashing my comp, is it bc I have a 125 watt psu with a qx9750 overclocked to 4.5 ghrtz?Gamerkat

Maybe if he unpluged his USB microwave oven it might run better

[QUOTE="Gamerkat"]guys, my ati 4870x2 keeps crashing my comp, is it bc I have a 125 watt psu with a qx9750 overclocked to 4.5 ghrtz?Predator123

Maybe if he unpluged his USB microwave oven it might run better

z0mg, that is an idea

dang u bill gates, you make horrible microwaves

guys, my ati 4870x2 keeps crashing my comp, is it bc I have a 125 watt psu with a qx9750 overclocked to 4.5 ghrtz?Gamerkat

lulz how witty! 125w psu that is too low! haha you are a genius of comedy

Sounds like user error to me. I mean 3 different cards, and 3 different problems. While I use ATI now, I have never had a problem with a single Nvidia card, while I have had 2 ATI dud's

If it is not user error, then you just have very bad luck, Nvidia would not stay in business if they made that bad of components.

What brand was it, it is the manufacturers responsibility to help, not Nvidia anyways.

opamando