I'm not sure which videocard to get.. (POLL) Ordering Tonight...

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#1 superclocked
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^ Well, I finally lost one of my 512MB 8800GTS's, so I need to find replacements. I would like to go SLI. And I am going to be gaming on 3x 1080p monitors, so that's a big factor... $249.99 - 1GB MSI Twin Frozr II GTX 560 Ti - Great quality, good overclocker $279.99 - 2GB Palit Sonic GTX 560 Ti - Extra RAM would be great for a 3 monitor setup $349.99 - 1.3GB Asus DCII GTX 570 - Great cooler, 570 GPU, more RAM, good overclocker $259.99 - 2GB VisionTek HD 6950 - Lifetime Warranty, unlock shaders, but no sli option Oh, and I added the 2GB 6950 to the list. But I have an SLI motherboard, so it would be the final card that I put in this system... Thanks in advance btw :)
Oh, and here are my other specs that you would need... C2D e8400 @ 4.5GHz 4GB DDR2 @ 1125 (5-5-5-15-25) 2x 550w RP550-2 PSU's
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#2 i5750at4Ghz
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gtx 570 is a really great card. Best in that list imo.
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#3 darksusperia
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570.
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#4 superclocked
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gtx 570 is a really great card. Best in that list imo. i5750at4Ghz
Is 1.3GB of VRAM enough for 3x 1080p monitors though? I know that GTA IV uses almost 2GB of VRAM on a single 1080p monitor, so that's what worries me.. "2x 560 Ti GPU's w/ 2GB" vs "2x 570 GPU's w/ 1.3GB" is a tough choice.. Especially since the 560's w/ 2GB of VRAM are so much cheaper, and the 1GB Twin Frozr's are even less...
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]gtx 570 is a really great card. Best in that list imo. superclocked
Is 1.3GB of VRAM enough for 3x 1080p monitors though? I know that GTA IV uses almost 2GB of VRAM on a single 1080p monitor, so that's what worries me.. "2x 560 Ti GPU's w/ 2GB" vs "2x 570 GPU's w/ 1.3GB" is a tough choice.. Especially since the 560's w/ 2GB of VRAM are so much cheaper, and the 1GB Twin Frozr's are even less...

560's can choke in really high res because of their 256-bit bus. Ideally you should go crossfire for 3 monitors due to AMD's superior performance in uber resolutions but since you have SLI mobo, 2xGTX 570's will serve you very well.

The 2GB GTX 560 has nothing on the 570....

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#6 adam0926
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Defiantly the 6950 and unlock the shaders you will need the extra vram.

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#7 blaznwiipspman1
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shame you got an sli board, the 6950 woulda been great, get the 570. You could get the 6950 and unlock to a 6970 which is the same as a 570, but again sli board so you could only get 1 of them....unless theres some sort of hack out there.

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#8 xsubtownerx
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There is no wrong choice. I like Nvidia, so I say the 570.
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#9 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]gtx 570 is a really great card. Best in that list imo. Gambler_3

Is 1.3GB of VRAM enough for 3x 1080p monitors though? I know that GTA IV uses almost 2GB of VRAM on a single 1080p monitor, so that's what worries me.. "2x 560 Ti GPU's w/ 2GB" vs "2x 570 GPU's w/ 1.3GB" is a tough choice.. Especially since the 560's w/ 2GB of VRAM are so much cheaper, and the 1GB Twin Frozr's are even less...

560's can choke in really high res because of their 256-bit bus. Ideally you should go crossfire for 3 monitors due to AMD's superior performance in uber resolutions but since you have SLI mobo, 2xGTX 570's will serve you very well.

The 2GB GTX 560 has nothing on the 570....

But using system RAM would be an even bigger bottleneck than the bus, and the 570 GPU isn't that much better than the 560 GPU.. With games using so much VRAM, I'm leaning more towards the 2GB 560 Ti's to be honest... Oh, and do you have experience with 3 monitor setups? I read that the side monitors lag in ATI setups. Does anyone know if that's true?
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Is 1.3GB of VRAM enough for 3x 1080p monitors though? I know that GTA IV uses almost 2GB of VRAM on a single 1080p monitor, so that's what worries me.. "2x 560 Ti GPU's w/ 2GB" vs "2x 570 GPU's w/ 1.3GB" is a tough choice.. Especially since the 560's w/ 2GB of VRAM are so much cheaper, and the 1GB Twin Frozr's are even less...superclocked

560's can choke in really high res because of their 256-bit bus. Ideally you should go crossfire for 3 monitors due to AMD's superior performance in uber resolutions but since you have SLI mobo, 2xGTX 570's will serve you very well.

The 2GB GTX 560 has nothing on the 570....

But using system RAM would be an even bigger bottleneck than the bus, and the 570 GPU isn't that much better than the 560 GPU.. With games using so much VRAM, I'm leaning more towards the 2GB 560 Ti's to be honest... Oh, and do you have experience with 3 monitor setups? I read that the side monitors lag in ATI setups. Does anyone know if that's true?

Games rarely ever use over 1 GB of VRAM.
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#12 Iantheone
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Correct me if im wrong, but I thought you could only run 2 monitors off a single Nvidia card? Either way I would get the 6950. $100 less for very little drop in performance.
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#13 superclocked
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I think that I made a decision... Does my logic seem sound? With me getting 3 monitors, and games using more VRAM all the time, 2GB of VRAM seems necessary.. And 2x GTX 560's in SLI would be extremely powerful, right? The GTX 570 GPU isn't that much better than the 560. So for about $75 a piece cheaper, I'm almost ready to push the button on the 2GB Palit 560 Ti...
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Wait, are you planning to get a second card before doing a triple-monitor setup? If not, get the 6950. ATI's cards are the only ones that can pull off triple-monitor setups. Nvidia's cards require an SLI setup in order to run three monitors.

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#15 superclocked
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Games rarely ever use over 1 GB of VRAM.xsubtownerx
But they do, and future games will use even more.. Plus, I need larger frame buffer for 4xAA across 3 monitors..
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#16 superclocked
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Wait, are you planning to get a second card before doing a triple-monitor setup? If not, get the 6950. ATI's cards are the only ones that can pull off triple-monitor setups. Nvidia's cards require an SLI setup in order to run three monitors.

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I'm going SLI before I start using 3 monitors.. That's why I'm probably going to get the 2GB 560.. Thinking ahead...
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Games rarely ever use over 1 GB of VRAM.superclocked
But they do, and future games will use even more.. Plus, I need more storage for 4xAA across 3 monitors..

If you're worried about running at 5760x1080 with 4x AA in modern games a gtx 560 won't cut it. I'm not even sure a gtx 570 will.
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#18 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

Wait, are you planning to get a second card before doing a triple-monitor setup? If not, get the 6950. ATI's cards are the only ones that can pull off triple-monitor setups. Nvidia's cards require an SLI setup in order to run three monitors.

superclocked
I'm going SLI before I start using 3 monitors.. That's why I'm probably going to get the 2GB 560.. Thinking ahead...

Ah just read this in that case the extra ram won't help you at all. If you want the gtx 560 two 1gbs in sli will be more than enough.
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Games rarely ever use over 1 GB of VRAM.superclocked
But they do, and future games will use even more.. Plus, I need larger frame buffer for 4xAA across 3 monitors..

You're gonna need a better GPU if you plan on gaming on 3 monitors..
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look up maxishine on youtube, he runs triple monitors and even his quad 580s struggle to break 60fps in some intense games. I'd recommend nothing less than 570/SLI

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#21 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Games rarely ever use over 1 GB of VRAM.xsubtownerx
But they do, and future games will use even more.. Plus, I need larger frame buffer for 4xAA across 3 monitors..

You're gonna need a better GPU if you plan on gaming on 3 monitors..

I'm not rich, lol.. Besides, SLI 560 Ti's is an extremely powerful setup... But anyway, I just ordered the 2GB Palit 560 Ti, of which I'll be ordering one more of when i get my other 2 monitors. Thanks for the input everyone, even if I didn't listen :P
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#22 C_Rule
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That Palit has a VGA port. *sigh* What a waste of space, could have had exhaust vent there.
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#23 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="superclocked"]But they do, and future games will use even more.. Plus, I need larger frame buffer for 4xAA across 3 monitors..superclocked
You're gonna need a better GPU if you plan on gaming on 3 monitors..

I'm not rich, lol.. Besides, SLI 560 Ti's are an extremely powerful setup... But anyway, I just ordered the 2GB Palit 560 Ti, of which I'll be ordering one more of when i get my other 2 monitors. Thanks for the input everyone, even if I didn't listen :P

I think you chose the worst one from the list.

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Gigabyte GTX 560 SOC

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#25 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]2GB Palit 560 TiC_Rule

I think you chose the worst one from the list.

The 2GB Palit 560 seems very sound, and the 2GB of VRAM will make a very nice frame buffer for 3 monitor gaming. Remember that SLI is a big factor here too. I don't want to go to ATI, since I can't get a second one soon. And I saved $75 over the 570, which is only a few frames faster at high res than the 1GB 560 anyway...
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with the price ur spending and the number of monitors u want I would of just gone all out and sprung for a 6990... ATI is really good with multiple monitors my friend has a similar setup.

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It's not all that much really.. $280 now, and then spend about $500 for another card and 2 more monitors in a couple of months... But the main reasons that I'm sticking with nVidia are the fact that I have an SLI board and 3DVision.. That seals the deal for me...
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#28 darksusperia
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you know the 570's go tri sli right?
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#29 superclocked
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you know the 570's go tri sli right?darksusperia
I only have two PCI-E x16 slots, and I'm not upgrading anything else in this PC.. I'm gonna give this one to my oldest son when I build a new one...
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#30 superclocked
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]That Palit has a VGA port. *sigh* What a waste of space, could have had exhaust vent there.

At 100% fan speed, the Palit cooler cools about the same as MSI's Twin Frozr II at 100%. It's a little louder than the Twin Frozr II, but the card has a 5 phase design that allows more overclocking headroom.. The VGA port is quit useless though, lol...
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]It's not all that much really.. $280 now, and then spend about $500 for another card and 2 more monitors in a couple of months... But the main reasons that I'm sticking with nVidia are the fact that I have an SLI board and 3DVision.. That seals the deal for me...

You can't go wrong with either companies, but I choose Nvidia as well. :P
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It's not all that much really.. $280 now, and then spend about $500 for another card and 2 more monitors in a couple of months... But the main reasons that I'm sticking with nVidia are the fact that I have an SLI board and 3DVision.. That seals the deal for me...superclocked

the only reason I suggest it is because I know it would give you the performance your looking for... not as much for the brand or anything.

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560's can choke in really high res because of their 256-bit bus. Ideally you should go crossfire for 3 monitors due to AMD's superior performance in uber resolutions but since you have SLI mobo, 2xGTX 570's will serve you very well.

The 2GB GTX 560 has nothing on the 570....Gambler_3

Pretty much this. If you've got access to crossfire have at it with some 6950s. If you've already got an SLI mobo a couple of 570s would treat you very well.

Games rarely ever use over 1 GB of VRAM.xsubtownerx

At 5760 x 1080 resolution? Just about any modern game will easily gobble 1GB of VRAM and still have room for seconds.

EDIT: Ya know it really pisses me off that I need to edit my messages every time I post in order for them to properly display becasue the gamspot's forum software sucks so much d***.

I don't even care if I get suspended for saying that. Come at me bro!

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lol^. I hear ya..
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#35 superclocked
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Games rarely ever use over 1 GB of VRAM.tequilasunriser

At 5760 x 1080 resolution? Just about any modern game will easily gobble 1GB of VRAM and still have room for seconds.

Yeah, SLI 560 GPU's w/ 2GB of VRAM each should chew up anything for some time. Plus, the Sonic Cooler is about the same as the Twin Frozr II when you're running the fans at the same speeds. The Sonic fans are a little louder at 100% though...
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]gtx 570 is a really great card. Best in that list imo. Gambler_3

Is 1.3GB of VRAM enough for 3x 1080p monitors though? I know that GTA IV uses almost 2GB of VRAM on a single 1080p monitor, so that's what worries me.. "2x 560 Ti GPU's w/ 2GB" vs "2x 570 GPU's w/ 1.3GB" is a tough choice.. Especially since the 560's w/ 2GB of VRAM are so much cheaper, and the 1GB Twin Frozr's are even less...

560's can choke in really high res because of their 256-bit bus. Ideally you should go crossfire for 3 monitors due to AMD's superior performance in uber resolutions but since you have SLI mobo, 2xGTX 570's will serve you very well.

The 2GB GTX 560 has nothing on the 570....

A reference GTX 560 Ti has quite a bit of memory bandwidth. An overclocked one like my Gigabyte SOC has over 150gb/s of bandwidth, which is comparable to a GTX 570. If he can get the memory speeds on the Palit 2gb up high enough to push that kind of bandwidth, it will outperform a 570 at high resolutions in many games due to the combination of VRAM and memory bandwidth, which is a result of memory type (GDDR5), speed, and bus width. A 256-bit bus is fine as long as your RAM is clocked fast enough. I think the AMD 6950's and 6970's both use a 256-bit bus as well.