iMac 27" is a better deal than any prebuilt PC.

Apple is accused of being overpriced, but the truth is that iMac 27" is actually very fairly priced, and an excellent gaming machine.

IPS 1440x2560 Display = $1000

i5-2400 3.1GHz = $180

6970m (Equivilent to 6850) = $150

PSU = $60

Casing = $100

4GB ram = $30

1TB 7200RPMHard Drive = $125

Motherboard = $100

Keyboard/Mouse = $100

Speakers = $25

HD Webcam = $30

One-Year warranty = complimentary

Total = $1900

Amazon sells the iMac for $1910.

This goes to show that apple is not as over priced as people think. You also get an OS which I would value at atleast $100, for free.

When you break it down, iMac's are premium and reasonably priced computers, even more-so than PC's.

And then any time you want to upgrade you have to replace everything. Most PC users keep their monitor for years and years.

I think macs are fine but this is one of the stupidest arguments ever.

On top of that the imacs use laptop parts and are prone to hardware malfunctions.

Also you live in bizzaro world where everyone's monitor is sideways

The GPU is the only laptop part, and even though it is a 6970m I counted the cost as a 6850, so that argument is not relevant.

The GPU is the only laptop part, and even though it is a 6970m I counted the cost as a 6850, so that argument is not relevant.

bluemantan

The GPU is the only laptop part, and even though it is a 6970m I counted the cost as a 6850, so that argument is not relevant.

bluemantan

As someone that has to support over 300 imacs I can tell you you are full of crap.

One of the computers at my desk at work is a C2D 27" imac even.

[QUOTE="bluemantan"]

The GPU is the only laptop part, and even though it is a 6970m I counted the cost as a 6850, so that argument is not relevant.

Iantheone

[QUOTE="bluemantan"]

The GPU is the only laptop part, and even though it is a 6970m I counted the cost as a 6850, so that argument is not relevant.

GummiRaccoon

As someone that has to support over 300 imacs I can tell you you are full of crap.

One of the computers at my desk at work is a C2D 27" imac even.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="bluemantan"]

The GPU is the only laptop part, and even though it is a 6970m I counted the cost as a 6850, so that argument is not relevant.

bluemantan

PC users keep their mouse/keyboard/monitor/speakers for years and years. So things like that never factor into their purchases.

Basically take off 1100 dollars for those things and you have the PC equivalent.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="bluemantan"]

The GPU is the only laptop part, and even though it is a 6970m I counted the cost as a 6850, so that argument is not relevant.

bluemantan

As someone that has to support over 300 imacs I can tell you you are full of crap.

One of the computers at my desk at work is a C2D 27" imac even.

I've taken dozens of imacs appart in the last few months and I can tell you all of those parts are laptop parts. ALso the heat inside those things is insane, every component dies way before it should.

[QUOTE="bluemantan"][QUOTE="Iantheone"] Help me replace the battery in my AirGummiRaccoon

PC users keep their mouse/keyboard/monitor/speakers for years and years. So things like that never factor into their purchases.

Basically take off 1100 dollars for those things and you have the PC equivalent.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="bluemantan"] What? I am not talking about laptops? And please post a $1900 build that is better than this that includes a 2560 x 1440 IPS display, a OS, and premium mouse and keyboard. bluemantan

PC users keep their mouse/keyboard/monitor/speakers for years and years. So things like that never factor into their purchases.

Basically take off 1100 dollars for those things and you have the PC equivalent.

PC users don't buy all-in-one solutions, so that not a trade off they would make.

[QUOTE="bluemantan"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

As someone that has to support over 300 imacs I can tell you you are full of crap.

One of the computers at my desk at work is a C2D 27" imac even.

GummiRaccoon

I've taken dozens of imacs appart in the last few months and I can tell you all of those parts are laptop parts. ALso the heat inside those things is insane, every component dies way before it should.

I think personally this is an awful gaming machine, all the money went in the wrong place. 1/2 of the budget on a monitor in my mind is wrong, it is almost a decent photo editing machine, besides the fact that it has 4gb of ram, and the processor is a little slow for the price, but form factor plays into that...

Premium mouse/keyboard is completely personal, I do not like the feel of their peripherals at all, those would have to be replaced.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="bluemantan"] What else is laptop? 3.5" HDD i5-2400 204 DDR3 That stuff is all desktop.bluemantan

I've taken dozens of imacs appart in the last few months and I can tell you all of those parts are laptop parts. ALso the heat inside those things is insane, every component dies way before it should.

because your one computer is a better sample size than the 300 I have.

Can the new iPads run more than one app at a time? Cause its pretty stupid that they cantIantheone

I think personally this is an awful gaming machine, all the money went in the wrong place. 1/2 of the budget on a monitor in my mind is wrong, it is almost a decent photo editing machine, besides the fact that it has 4gb of ram, and the processor is a little slow for the price, but form factor plays into that...

Premium mouse/keyboard is completely personal, I do not like the feel of their peripherals at all, those would have to be replaced.

mitch2411

My mac at work uses a dell keyboard and mouse.

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPqk_eKwVLY

[QUOTE="bluemantan"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I've taken dozens of imacs appart in the last few months and I can tell you all of those parts are laptop parts. ALso the heat inside those things is insane, every component dies way before it should.

GummiRaccoon

because your one computer is a better sample size than the 300 I have.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

I think personally this is an awful gaming machine, all the money went in the wrong place. 1/2 of the budget on a monitor in my mind is wrong, it is almost a decent photo editing machine, besides the fact that it has 4gb of ram, and the processor is a little slow for the price, but form factor plays into that...

Premium mouse/keyboard is completely personal, I do not like the feel of their peripherals at all, those would have to be replaced.

GummiRaccoon

My mac at work uses a dell keyboard and mouse.

Which is exactly what I stated....

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

I think personally this is an awful gaming machine, all the money went in the wrong place. 1/2 of the budget on a monitor in my mind is wrong, it is almost a decent photo editing machine, besides the fact that it has 4gb of ram, and the processor is a little slow for the price, but form factor plays into that...

Premium mouse/keyboard is completely personal, I do not like the feel of their peripherals at all, those would have to be replaced.

mitch2411

My mac at work uses a dell keyboard and mouse.

Which is exactly what I stated....

I was agreeing with you

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="bluemantan"] Wait, so you are telling me that the 7200RPM 3.5" Hard drive is a laptop part? As is the i5-2400? I have an iMac running from 2006 that still runs perfectly. I don't believe heat is an issue.bluemantan

because your one computer is a better sample size than the 300 I have.

>Talking about current 2011 imacs

>brings up 2006 imac

>2012

>ishygddt

[QUOTE="bluemantan"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

because your one computer is a better sample size than the 300 I have.

GummiRaccoon

>Talking about current 2011 imacs

>brings up 2006 imac

>2012

>ishygddt

Good luck buying a PC with 2012 parts. Oh wait, they are not out yet.bluemantan

Good luck buying a PC with 2012 parts.bluemantan

I think personally this is an awful gaming machine, all the money went in the wrong place. 1/2 of the budget on a monitor in my mind is wrong, it is almost a decent photo editing machine, besides the fact that it has 4gb of ram, and the processor is a little slow for the price, but form factor plays into that...

Premium mouse/keyboard is completely personal, I do not like the feel of their peripherals at all, those would have to be replaced.

mitch2411

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

I think personally this is an awful gaming machine, all the money went in the wrong place. 1/2 of the budget on a monitor in my mind is wrong, it is almost a decent photo editing machine, besides the fact that it has 4gb of ram, and the processor is a little slow for the price, but form factor plays into that...

Premium mouse/keyboard is completely personal, I do not like the feel of their peripherals at all, those would have to be replaced.

KHAndAnime

I am no monitor expert. Just pointing out that for a gaming setup, 1/2 the budget on a monitor seems silly(atleast a 2k budget).

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64747&vpn=LS27A850DS%2FZA&manufacture=Samsung

849.98 Cdn

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel_Z68_Core_i3_i5_i7_Configurator

http://www.ibuypower.com/Carts/ShoppingCarts.aspx

1129 Cdn

Total: 1978.98

Cheaper for a system with an i5-2500k, with a closed water loop, so when OC, there's gonna be a huge difference with that mac, and crossfire 6870, wich will destroy the mac's 6970m.

8gb of Ram compare to 4.

compare to a Prebuilt, it might seem like a good deal, but I still managed to find a better deal in less than 5min.

Edit: I don't think my link to ibuypower works, here's the specs

1 x Case ( Azza Triton Gaming Case - Black )

1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Processor (4x 3.30GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Free Upgrade to Intel Core i5-2550K Processor )

1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1155] - [Free Upgrade] Standard 120mm Fan )

1 x Memory ( 8 GB [2 GB X4] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )

1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 6870 - 1GB - HIS IceQ X Turbo - Core: 920MHz - CrossFire Mode (Dual Cards) )

1 x Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA )

1 x Motherboard ( ASUS P8Z68-V LX -- Lucid Virtu Technology )

0 x Intel Smart Response Technology ( None )

1 x Power Supply ( 700 Watt - Standard )

1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )

1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )

1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )

1 x Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )

1 x Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard )

1 x Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse )

1 x Warranty ( 3 Year Standard Warranty Service )

1 x Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

Also the argument I meant to make but didn't:

For a gaming machine:

Find me any imac that can crossfire or SLI

Also goodluck gaming at 2560x1440 with a 6970m

AND find me an imac that doesn't look retarded in a mutli monitor setup

OP I will say your logic is so flawed I loled.

Find me an iMac that uses laptop parts besides GPU?

If I have to throw away a 27" IPS display when the hardware is obsolete... then I don't want that PC in the first place.

Find me an iMac that uses laptop parts besides GPU?

bluemantan

http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/imac-upgrades.htm

Find me an iMac that uses laptop parts besides GPU?

bluemantan

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the website for the store i work for (PLEASE NOTE THESE ARE AU$ AND I AM NOT ADVERTISING, SIMPLY ILLUSTRATING A POINT). here are AU price listings for All in one (AiO) PC's comapred to macs

Smaller screen AiO (cheapest BTW is a HP 20" for $598AU, find me an apple for $598.....brand new....you won't)

Dell www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/dell/23-inch-all-in-one-sku-71318/

• 2nd Generation Intel Core i5-2400s 2.5ghz CPU

• Internal TV Tuner

• Blu ray

• 1TB HDD

• NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M With 1GB Dedicated Graphics

• 1 TB HDD

• 6 GB RAM

• 23 Inch Screen

• 1 HDMI Ports

• 1920 x 1080 Screen Resolution

• $1397

APPLE www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/apple/imac-21-5-inch-desktop-sku-69131/

• Intel Core i5 Quad Core 2.5ghz

• 4GB RAM / 500GB HDD

• 512MB AMD Radeon HD 6750m

• 500 GB HDD

• 4 GB RAM

• Display port/Thujnderbolt

• 21.5 Inch Screen (1920x1080)

• $1398

The Dell wins for value for money witha bigger screen, double the HDD, TV tuner, Blu Ray and more RAM for the same price.

BIGGER SCREEN AiO's

HP www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/hp/23-inch-all-in-one-pc-sku-70977/

• 2nd Generation i5-2310 2.9ghz CPU

• 4GB RAM

• 1TB HDD

• 6 USB Ports

• USB Version 2.0

• AMD Radeon HD 6550A with 2GB Dedicated

• 1 TB HDD

• 4 GB RAM

• 23 Inch Screen (1920x1080)

• Input (website error, actually has 2)

• $1697

APPLE www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/apple/imac-27-inch-desktop-sku-69134/

• Intel Core i5 3.1GHz CPU (i7 3.4ghz upgrade $240)

• LED Backlighting

• FaceTime HD Camera

• 4 USB Ports

• Display port/Thujnderbolt

• 512MB Graphics Memory

• AMD Radeon HD 6770M with 512MB Dedicated

• 1 TB HDD (2TB upgrade $180)

• 4 GB RAM

• 27 Inch Screen (1440x 2560 Res)

• $2298

HP www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/hp/23-inch-all-in-one-pc-sku-70978/

• Intel Core i7-2600 3.40ghz CPU

• 8GB RAM

• 2TB HDD

• Blu Ray & DVD +/- & CD Player

• 6 USB Ports

• AMD Radeon HD 6550A with 2GB Dedicated

• 2000 GB HDD

• 8 GB RAM

• TV Tuner

• 23 Inch Screen (1920x1080)

• 2 HDMI Ports, Input (website error, actually has 2)

• $2482

Now the Apple has a bit of a good spot here in the bigger end. Not only has it got the Higher screen res and the larger, but also has the better graphics card. the HP however would win if the customer wasnt swayed by sheer screen size, but instead wanting faster and more features for cheaper (even compare the Mac upgrade prices)

Also the argument I meant to make but didn't:

For a gaming machine:

Find me any imac that can crossfire or SLI

Also goodluck gaming at 2560x1440 with a 6970m

AND find me an imac that doesn't look retarded in a mutli monitor setup

GummiRaccoon

This is sooooooooo truee, my bro is a mac fan and he bought one of those fancy shmancy 27" imacs.

He then invited me over to his room to look at him playing SC2 in 2560x1440. When he got in the middle of the fight i lol'ed soo hard when his FPS dropped to like 1fps which then led to him ragequitting and going back to browsing the internet. :lol:

Guess I better sell my pc, draw another $600 out of my account and buy an iMac 27". Sounds like a good deal.

Apple is accused of being overpriced, but the truth is that iMac 27" is actually very fairly priced, and an excellent gaming machine.

IPS 1440x2560 Display = $1000

i5-2400 3.1GHz = $180

6970m (Equivilent to 6850) = $150

PSU = $60

Casing = $100

4GB ram = $30

1TB 7200RPMHard Drive = $125

Motherboard = $100

Keyboard/Mouse = $100

Speakers = $25

HD Webcam = $30

One-Year warranty = complimentary

Total = $1900

Amazon sells the iMac for $1910.

This goes to show that apple is not as over priced as people think. You also get an OS which I would value at atleast $100, for free.

When you break it down, iMac's are premium and reasonably priced computers, even more-so than PC's.

bluemantan

How could you possibly sya that ISN'T overpriced? That hardware sucks for that price and then you can never upgrade. No thanks.

Apple is accused of being overpriced, but the truth is that iMac 27" is actually very fairly priced, and an excellent gaming machine.

IPS 1440x2560 Display = $1000

i5-2400 3.1GHz = $180

6970m (Equivilent to 6850) = $150

PSU = $60

Casing = $100

4GB ram = $30

1TB 7200RPMHard Drive = $125

Motherboard = $100

Keyboard/Mouse = $100

Speakers = $25

HD Webcam = $30

One-Year warranty = complimentary

Total = $1900

Amazon sells the iMac for $1910.

This goes to show that apple is not as over priced as people think. You also get an OS which I would value at atleast $100, for free.

When you break it down, iMac's are premium and reasonably priced computers, even more-so than PC's.

bluemantan

The one thing I will agree on is that the display is beautiful. It's a high res and high quality LG IPS panel and it looks great. But you can build a PC with the same specs for half the price.

Apple is accused of being overpriced, but the truth is that iMac 27" is actually very fairly priced, and an excellent gaming machine.

IPS 1440x2560 Display = $1000

i5-2400 3.1GHz = $180

6970m (Equivilent to 6850) = $150

PSU = $60

Casing = $100

4GB ram = $30

1TB 7200RPMHard Drive = $125

Motherboard = $100

Keyboard/Mouse = $100

Speakers = $25

HD Webcam = $30

One-Year warranty = complimentary

Total = $1900

Amazon sells the iMac for $1910.

This goes to show that apple is not as over priced as people think. You also get an OS which I would value at atleast $100, for free.

When you break it down, iMac's are premium and reasonably priced computers, even more-so than PC's.

bluemantan

tc.. umm

who.. in the blue hell are you?

[QUOTE="bluemantan"]

Apple is accused of being overpriced, but the truth is that iMac 27" is actually very fairly priced, and an excellent gaming machine.

IPS 1440x2560 Display = $1000

i5-2400 3.1GHz = $180

6970m (Equivilent to 6850) = $150

PSU = $60

Casing = $100

4GB ram = $30

1TB 7200RPMHard Drive = $125

Motherboard = $100

Keyboard/Mouse = $100

Speakers = $25

HD Webcam = $30

One-Year warranty = complimentary

Total = $1900

Amazon sells the iMac for $1910.

This goes to show that apple is not as over priced as people think. You also get an OS which I would value at atleast $100, for free.

When you break it down, iMac's are premium and reasonably priced computers, even more-so than PC's.

You brought this thread from SW?

You brought this thread from SW?

mitu123