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#1 miconstantine
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I have an EVGA 8800Gt, AMD 64 bit 3500+, and 1GB of RAM. I can run the game on all settings high, at a resolution of 1280x1024, and it is playabe, although in some big firefights, the frame rate drops, and gets pretty choppy. I currently cannot upgrade my processor. My question is, if I upgrade to 2 or 3GB of RAM, will there be a noticiable increase in performance?
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#2 cole_793
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Yes, increasing ram will give you a performance boost.
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#3 04dcarraher
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2gb of ram is the sweet spot of games like crysis.

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#4 miconstantine
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So you're saying that I should upgrade to 2GB? Would 3GB be a big increase from 2, or is 2 the sweet spot?
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#5 cole_793
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3 is always better than 2, but if its going to cost you alot more dont bother. If you can get 3 for not much more, then go for it
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#6 Guru_G4M3R
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RAM will improve your performance, but you already have a massive bottleneck in your system. I'm sure you know what it is...
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#7 sadikovic
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Let me guess you slapped an 8800 series card into a dated machine... its deffinetely bottlenecking the performance and upgrade to 2GB since anything more is completely useless with every game.

Even with the upgrade I'd say your going to get 60% of the performance you should get from the 8800GT simply because your CPU is rather weak and im guessing your ram is somewhere on the lines of 533MHz... :(.

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#8 9mmSpliff
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More RAM will help with loading times and such, but nothing to change your ingame performance vastly. Infact what you should do is drop all the settings to medium and take AA and AF off for you to get good frames.

You can get 2x2gb for $80, new board for $80-$100 and new CPU for $100 and under now.
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#9 miconstantine
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Yes I know my CPU isn't great. So you guys are saying RAM won't really do anything because of my CPU? And what CPU would you guys reccomend that is fairly inexpensive?
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Yes I know my CPU isn't great, but I cannot afford to upgrade it now. So you guys are saying RAM won't really do anything? And what CPU would you guys reccomend?miconstantine

The E6850 is a great dual core processor on a budget, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

But if you really can't afford that (and/or your prefer AMD) the 6400+ X2 is a great price/performance processor @ only 140 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103228

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[QUOTE="miconstantine"]Yes I know my CPU isn't great, but I cannot afford to upgrade it now. So you guys are saying RAM won't really do anything? And what CPU would you guys reccomend?Guru_G4M3R

The E6850 is a great dual core processor on a budget, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

But if you really can't afford that (and/or your prefer AMD) the 6400+ X2 is a great price/performance processor @ only 140 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103228

The E8400 is a much better buy at $190 and a $130 E7200 can beat a 6400+ at stock, not to mention it can OC to ~4.0GHz.

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#12 miconstantine
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My motherboard only supports AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64x2
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#13 musclesforcier
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My motherboard only supports AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64x2miconstantine

If I were getting an AMD CPU I would get a 5000+ Black Edition. If you don't want to OC then get a 6000/6400. Note that the Black Editions do not come with heatsinks.

I don't know a lot about AMD motherboards, but I assume since it's old it wont support a Phenom.

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#14 musclesforcier
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An X2, 2gb DDR2, and a 8800GT will be a very nice gaming rig.
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#15 miconstantine
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The support page for my PC doesnt specify what processor, it just says "AMD 64x2." So wil the black edition that you were talking about work with my motherboard?
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#16 musclesforcier
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The support page for my PC doesnt specify what processor, it just says "AMD 64x2." So wil the black edition that you were talking about work with my motherboard?miconstantine

It should, its just an X2 with an unlocked multiplierfor easy overclocking.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3343343&Sku=CP1-AM2-5000B&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=TBBTkwCjCVyBpAgf%20mwzygtCjCVRqCjCVRq

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#17 musclesforcier
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What mobo do you have exactly?
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#18 charrr1234
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The support page for my PC doesnt specify what processor, it just says "AMD 64x2." So wil the black edition that you were talking about work with my motherboard?miconstantine

Yes, the black edition would work, but you would need to buy a heatsink. Also, would you mind telling us what your computer is? It could help me with a processor recommendation.

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#19 miconstantine
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http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=3204844&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us.

Here is thing link to the support page for my PC. The only upgrades I have made are new hard drives, an additional 512 MB of RAM (total of 1GB), and the 8800GT.

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#20 charrr1234
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Looks like your going to need a new motherboard, socket 939 Athlon 64 X2 CPUs aren't made any more.
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[QUOTE="miconstantine"]Yes I know my CPU isn't great, but I cannot afford to upgrade it now. So you guys are saying RAM won't really do anything? And what CPU would you guys reccomend?Guru_G4M3R

The E6850 is a great dual core processor on a budget, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

But if you really can't afford that (and/or your prefer AMD) the 6400+ X2 is a great price/performance processor @ only 140 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103228

and i got my amd 6000+ x2 from newegg.com for 114 dollars. and its a great price/preformance, and you can overclock it too.
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#22 johnny27
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2 gigs on ram would be the minum i would reccomend for gaming right now and of course if u can afford 3 go with that just make sure u buy in pairs 2x1G and 2x512mb
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#23 9mmSpliff
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Yep, you get $300 together and you can get a Gigabyte P35 DS3L, 2x1gb DDR2-800 and Intel E7200.
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#24 miconstantine
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I need a new motherboard?
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#25 9mmSpliff
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I need a new motherboard?miconstantine


Well you are not giong to be getting a socket 939, so you need a new motherboard for a new CPU. The sockets are different.
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#26 miconstantine
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How much will a motherboard cost then? I really do not want to spend a lot of money on it.
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#27 9mmSpliff
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Gigabyte P45 DS3L - $108

Intel E7200 - $130

2x2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 - $87

Total - $325. You could save roughly $50 by dropping to 2x1gb and change to the Gigabyte P35 DS3L

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#28 kodex1717
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If you have DDR2, you can get another gigabyte of RAM to use as a stop-gap until you can afford new parts (and put it in your upgraded machine later). I'd still recommend a processor an motherboard upgrade, but it's not quite as urgent as more memory.
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#29 ruuuj
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Some good advice in here... heed spliff's words if i were you ;) The most important thing to remember: if you go ahead with the upgrade proposed by spliff, not only will you see a HUGE difference performance-wise in Crysis, but you'll have a solid system armed with a powerful processor and GPU, therefore you won't have to worry about upgrading again for a long time. Lastly, there's massive OCing potential with both that Intel CPU and 8800GT. You can't go wrong.
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#30 miconstantine
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Does it really matter what brand name RAM I get? I can get the same amount of RAM a lot cheaper from different brands.
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#31 9mmSpliff
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You are speaking about Value RAM. Its RAM with no heatspreader on it. the heatspreader is great for overclocking if you wanted to learn that. Its not mandatory, but yes you could save money and go with Value RAM. You can get that Corsair kit there for $30 right now in 2x1gb version witha MIR I think. Crucial, Corsair, Mushkin are great for pricing and performance.
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#32 miconstantine
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Ok, cool. I dont think I will ever overclock my RAM.
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#33 9mmSpliff
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I hope it all works out for you...for Value RAM, I would look at Crucial or Corsair, maybe some Kingston.
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#34 miconstantine
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Will the CPU that you recommended increase my framerate in Crysis?
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#35 9mmSpliff
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Crysis loves CPUs, and we all know it loves GPUs too, but since you are playing at a lower resolution, having a nice CPU will help. That E7200 if you ever found it to be slow, can overclock very nicely, but with better RAM. Value will get you only so far. Crysis will like your dualcore. It doesnt take on Quads as well and destroys single cores.

You could be running Crysis @ 12x10 High with no AA or maybe 2xAA for around 35fps.
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#36 qman101
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From what I know, Crysis takes up about 700 MB memory at low settings. So yes, getting more RAM should increase performance.

Just get the RAM for now... when you have enough money, go ahead and get the new processor if you choose. I still say get the RAM for now first.

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#37 miconstantine
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1280x1024 is the highest resolution it will let me set at. And I dont need ultra high frame rates for it to be playable. So it sounds like a CPU will really help me out.
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#38 Im_DaBaller
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1280x1024 is the highest resolution it will let me set at. And I dont need ultra high frame rates for it to be playable. So it sounds like a CPU will really help me out.miconstantine

Get more RAM first, see how it turns out.

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#39 miconstantine
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Well my current mother board only supports DDR RAM. So if I upgrade, it will take DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. So I am going to wait and see if I upgrade my mother board, and then find out what type of RAM it takes.
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#40 9mmSpliff
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ddr is done on motherboards now. Socket 939 was the last one to use it
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#41 DaGamingGod
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Buy a cheap x2 processor and overclock it to at least 2.4 Ghz. You really don't NEED anything faster for games.
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#42 miconstantine
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I've never overclocked, and I don't plan on doing it. So I think I will just buy a more powerful processor and not risking screwing it up by trying to overclock it.
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#43 qman101
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I've never overclocked, and I don't plan on doing it. So I think I will just buy a more powerful processor and not risking screwing it up by trying to overclock it.miconstantine

Well, you could overclock it to the point that it can still be cooled well with stock coolers.

The Core 2 Duo E6300, for example, has a stock clock of 1.87 GHz. In a test, it was shown that the E6300 was able to overclock to 2.59GHz with a stock cooler and PSU (I think).

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#44 miconstantine
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I've never overclocked anything. I think it would just be easier to buy the more powerful one.
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#45 qman101
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Overclocking could mean saving $80... $80 in which you could use to get something else. Didn't you say you were on a budget?

Overclocking is useful in it that you don't have to continually upgrade things to achieve performance similar to modern PC's. It also saves money, money in which you can use to get something else.

It might be a bit hard to learn at first, but I would say it's worth the effort.

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#46 miconstantine
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I just don't want to risk messing something up. I don't need an insane processor, just something that is better than my current one.