Installing Windows Vista Ultimate

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#1 LightSoulBlue
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So a friend of mine got a Windows Upgrade CD since he figured XP was going out, but when I tried to install it for him, the installation was slow as all hell. When it finally finished, startup was still horrid and so was the performance within Windows itself. Here are his specs:

Brand: eMachines

1GB RAM
AMD Athlon 4000+ @2.4GHz
200GB HDD
Nvidia 7200GS
Previous OS: Windows XP Media Edition

Now I know what you're thinking: that video card plus Aero equals disaster, yes? This seemed to indeed be the case. After I disabled transparencies, the performance boosted by a great amount. However, things were still far from being perfect.

One more thing. Before I formatted his drive using the application on the Vista CD, I noticed a partition labeled "Recovery". I deleted this since it was already formatted in FAT32 (could have been NTFS, I'm not sure). Could this be one of the problems? If my friend had a CD from eMachines labeled "Recovery" could I install/boot from it and make things dandy again?

A few other solutions I thought of:

-Installing Vista Basic and thereby disabling any chance of Aero or any other annoying memory hog apps being activated.
-Using a slower or possibly faster DVD drive to install Vista; this was a problem with my own installation (DVD drive was too fast).

Help me out, GS!

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#2 LightSoulBlue
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Any help guys? I'd like to have this completed for him by today.
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#3 markop2003
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that partition would have been for a recovery cd, it sets all the settings back to normal, sorta like reinstalling windows but it could include other programs too like drivers

The RAM is the first problem i'm using 35% of my 2gb writing this so he'll be using 70% of his 1gb. The graphics card is very lo so it'll have major problems with vista. The drive shouldn't make a difference.

What i'ld do is format the whole thing in NTFS, aparently it's not so effected by fragmentation. Then install basic, if you want you can try with ultimate again but turn off all the apps using MSconfig, with this you can change the startup registry so that only what you want starts up, make sure you turn off the sidebar it's quite a memory hog and he proberbly won't use it much.

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#4 LightSoulBlue
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that partition would have been for a recovery cd, it sets all the settings back to normal, sorta like reinstalling windows but it could include other programs too like drivers

The RAM is the first problem i'm using 35% of my 2gb writing this so he'll be using 70% of his 1gb. The graphics card is very lo so it'll have major problems with vista. The drive shouldn't make a difference.

What i'ld do is format the whole thing in NTFS, aparently it's not so effected by fragmentation. Then install basic, if you want you can try with ultimate again but turn off all the apps using MSconfig, with this you can change the startup registry so that only what you want starts up, make sure you turn off the sidebar it's quite a memory hog and he proberbly won't use it much.

markop2003

So the recovery portion would not be needed? He did have XP on there before. The RAM probably wouldn't be a problem - I have another computer with Vista that only has a gig of RAM and a P4 so I think that's fine. I think I'll just install Vista Basic, but that doesn't explain why he would have had problems BEFORE even booting into Windows (at the installation!). Any other input?

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#5 Orrendamente
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I don't think that it's the video card. The first time I installed Vista I had GeForce 6100 onboard video and Vista ran fine with aero ON. The screensaver was a bit choppy, but that was all.

This rig also had an AMD 64 X2 4000+ and 1 gb of RAM.

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#6 artiedeadat40
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You need more ram 1gb is not enough.
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#7 Orrendamente
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You need more ram 1gb is not enough.artiedeadat40

I ran Vista perfectly fine with 1 gb of RAM.

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#8 LightSoulBlue
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To everyone who believes that one gig of RAM is not enough: it is!!!!!!!!! Seriously, I'm using Vista on a computer right now that only has one gig and I'm running everything more than smooth. My friend won't be using his computer for gaming btw; he's got a Wii and PS2 for that purpose.
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#9 artiedeadat40
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Im sure vista really runs fast with a gb of ram.
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#10 LightSoulBlue
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Im sure vista really runs fast with a gb of ram.artiedeadat40

It does, actually. I'm even running Aero with a Radeon X300! Any other rumors that I should dispell about Vista?

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#11 Orrendamente
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Im sure vista really runs fast with a gb of ram.artiedeadat40

It's fine if your not a gamer or a power user.

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#12 LightSoulBlue
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[QUOTE="artiedeadat40"]Im sure vista really runs fast with a gb of ram.Orrendamente

It's fine if your not a gamer or a power user.

Well, even for some gaming it's fine actually. I can run HL2 and the expansions and Orange Box and what have you and max them out on1024x1280 - no joke!

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#13 Orrendamente
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Yeah, I played STALKER, FEAR, and Penumbra at 1440x900, each on med, with 1 gb RAM and a 7800GT. I didn't do much gaming other than that on it though. That was just a temporary PC to hold me over until I got all the parts for the build in my sig.
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Vista is really good at managing paging files but it will slow down your hard drive.
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[QUOTE="Orrendamente"]

[QUOTE="artiedeadat40"]Im sure vista really runs fast with a gb of ram.LightSoulBlue

It's fine if your not a gamer or a power user.

Well, even for some gaming it's fine actually. I can run HL2 and the expansions and Orange Box and what have you and max them out on1024x1280 - no joke!

Why did you put no joke ? The orange box is very easy to max, ive even heard people running the game on high with the old ati 9800xt
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#16 LightSoulBlue
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[QUOTE="LightSoulBlue"][QUOTE="Orrendamente"]

[QUOTE="artiedeadat40"]Im sure vista really runs fast with a gb of ram.mastershake575

It's fine if your not a gamer or a power user.

Well, even for some gaming it's fine actually. I can run HL2 and the expansions and Orange Box and what have you and max them out on1024x1280 - no joke!

Why did you put no joke ? The orange box is very easy to max, ive even heard people running the game on high with the old ati 9800xt

To give an example - one of many.

Getting back on topic! Does anyone have any other advice for me?

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[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="LightSoulBlue"][QUOTE="Orrendamente"]

[QUOTE="artiedeadat40"]Im sure vista really runs fast with a gb of ram.LightSoulBlue

It's fine if your not a gamer or a power user.

Well, even for some gaming it's fine actually. I can run HL2 and the expansions and Orange Box and what have you and max them out on1024x1280 - no joke!

Why did you put no joke ? The orange box is very easy to max, ive even heard people running the game on high with the old ati 9800xt

To give an example - one of many.

Getting back on topic! Does anyone have any other advice for me?

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