Intel Quad Core Q6600 + HD 4850 or AMD's A10 6800K. Which is better for gaming?

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#1 Xtasy26
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So, recently I came across a cheap PC, so I decided to pick it up having wanting a test box for a while and upgraded the hardware. Now I have a intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with an HD 4850. Since I wanted a test box I thought this would be the rout to go. Now, since the A10 6800K came out I am having second thoughts. Maybe I should dump the Q6600 and the HD 4850 and get a brand new A10 6800K. The question is, which one is better for gaming? I looked at some benchmarks and it seems at least in 3D Mark 2006 my setup get's 11,000+ and the A10 get's 10,000 although you could easily overclock it to reach the performance of my setup. But the question still remains which one will be better for gaming?

Note, I plan to do mild gaming and it will on a 1440x900 resolution monitor. I simply don't know which one will get better frames in DX9/DX 10 games. Note, I don't care about DX 11 gaming as I have my other gaming rig for that.

So, help me out PC guru's! Which one is better?

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#2 blaznwiipspman1
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close call but id go with q6600.  Go with whatever is cheaper between the two.  If you go with the q6600 overclock the sht out of it.

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Is that Q6600 overclocked at all? I think it'll boil down to how much you can overclock the Q6600 vs. the 6800K. I don't know how the latter fares (haven't been paying attention to AMD CPUs lately since their Athlon glory days passed), but given that I'm still using my five-and-a-half-year-old Q6600 and could only get it to 3.6 GHz with the help of custom water-cooling, that could be a barrier.
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#4 LongZhiZi
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I think the Q6600 + 4850 is going to a better performer. The only downside is that there are not really driver updates for that GPU and it's only DX10.1. But thus far, that only prevents you from playing Crysis 3.
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#5 DJ_Headshot
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I'd would pick the A10 since its brand new less chance of failure and would be covered under warranty for a few years unlike an old 4850 which ran quite hot even at stock clocks.

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I'd play it safe and go for the newer hardware. It will use much less power, and you could stick it in a mini case too.

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Is that Q6600 overclocked at all? I think it'll boil down to how much you can overclock the Q6600 vs. the 6800K. I don't know how the latter fares (haven't been paying attention to AMD CPUs lately since their Athlon glory days passed), but given that I'm still using my five-and-a-half-year-old Q6600 and could only get it to 3.6 GHz with the help of custom water-cooling, that could be a barrier.NamelessPlayer
the 6800k can hit 5ghz on air if your cooler isnt sh!t. its stock clock is 4.1ghz. simply put the 6800k might as well be a jet engine vs the aging core 2 quad. time to put that baby to rest.. or rather put a shell in that dying mules forhead.

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[QUOTE="NamelessPlayer"]Is that Q6600 overclocked at all? I think it'll boil down to how much you can overclock the Q6600 vs. the 6800K. I don't know how the latter fares (haven't been paying attention to AMD CPUs lately since their Athlon glory days passed), but given that I'm still using my five-and-a-half-year-old Q6600 and could only get it to 3.6 GHz with the help of custom water-cooling, that could be a barrier.ionusX

the 6800k can hit 5ghz on air if your cooler isnt sh!t. its stock clock is 4.1ghz. simply put the 6800k might as well be a jet engine vs the aging core 2 quad. time to put that baby to rest.. or rather put a shell in that dying mules forhead.

Hey, you watch your mouth talking about my baby!
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*loads 12 guage* ah this is n easy fix.. come here.

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#10 LordEC911
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Hands down the 4850 is going to perform better than the A10 in gaming situations.

4850 > 6670 > GT 640 > 8670D

Edit- I first read the OP as Q6600+4850 vs A10 6800K with no dedicated GPU. If that is the case the Q6600+4850 is better.

Now if you are talking about switching the GPU around to the other rig and basing just on pure CPU power, that is more complicated. 

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#11 Xtasy26
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Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated.

To the dude above. I don't plan on adding a GPU as this will increase the cost further. Getting a A10 6800K will be building an entire new system and it will be easily more expensive the price I paid to have the setup of Q6600 and the HD 4850.

But I had feeling that the HD 4850 would be more powerful than the A10 6800K as the 4850 has 800 stream processors whereas the A10 6800K's 8670D had 384 stream processors. However the HD 4850 has a core clock of 625 Mhz where as the 8670D has 844 Mhz.

Decisions...decisions....

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#12 LordEC911
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Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated.

To the dude above. I don't plan on adding a GPU as this will increase the cost further. Getting a A10 6800K will be building an entire new system and it will be easily more expensive the price I paid to have the setup of Q6600 and the HD 4850.

But I had feeling that the HD 4850 would be more powerful than the A10 6800K as the 4850 has 800 stream processors whereas the A10 6800K's 8670D had 384 stream processors. However the HD 4850 has a core clock of 625 Mhz where as the 8670D has 844 Mhz.

Decisions...decisions....

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4850 has more of everything over the 8670D, which makes the clock discrepancy a null point.

I was running my 4850 at ~725mhz during the summer and was doing ~750mhz during the winter, with a VF900 cooler. 

Edit- Also wanted to point out that the 8670D's 844mhz is Turbo and may not always be running that clockspeed in games. 

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#13 jun_aka_pekto
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Just buy the A10 6800k (including mobo and RAM) to replace the Q6600 and use the 4850 with it.

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A10 All the way :)
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#15 achilles614
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I had to retire the 4850 in my desktop that had a q6600, it was too slow for 1080p. I have a 6870 in there now and it runs great.
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the 6800k can hit 5ghz on air if your cooler isnt sh!t. its stock clock is 4.1ghz. simply put the 6800k might as well be a jet engine vs the aging core 2 quad. time to put that baby to rest.. or rather put a shell in that dying mules forhead.ionusX
Hey now, this Q6600's been more viable after five years than the Athlon XP 1800+ in the system that preceded it. That's pretty good mileage considering that in the old days, the fastest CPU in one year would be useless for games released in the very next. I'd love to go five years in the future and watch you talk about your Core i7 860 the same way. Computer parts, just thrown aside and replaced...what a shame. I still know people having to get by on old single-core CPUs that struggle with Flash videos.